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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
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Jun 13 @ 10:10 AM ET
Do you think he's gonna sign a 2 year deal?

I'm thinking 5x5, or 4 years, 6 mil

- jcragcrumple

No idea, it’s just funny because last time he was a UFA everyone thought he was going for 7 years and he went 4.

JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:12 AM ET
Do you think he's gonna sign a 2 year deal?

I'm thinking 5x5, or 4 years, 6 mil

- jcragcrumple


Yup I think Stastny goes to a team like Chicago, LAK, BOS, or MTL on a 5x5 type deal.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 13 @ 10:12 AM ET
No idea, it’s just funny because last time he was a UFA everyone thought he was going for 7 years and he went 4.
- sbroads24


We're talking here like he's a 3C, I would bet there are more than a couple teams that are ready to commit to him as a 2C
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 13 @ 10:15 AM ET
I'd actually go after Riley Nash before I'd go after Stastny if we traded ROR. Maybe even Bozak sadly.

I remember a few years ago when there was the talk of us getting Stastny for COL and I really dug in on him... it just was very Vanek like.. scores 3 pts then nothing for 5 games... doesn't do any one thing GREAT.. just a very mediocre player that is opportunistic.

- JVince11


Yes please to Riley Nash your talking 3rd line for him right ?
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
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Jun 13 @ 10:16 AM ET
We're talking here like he's a 3C, I would bet there are more than a couple teams that are ready to commit to him as a 2C
- jcragcrumple


Which is MADNESS to me.... dude hasn't scored 20 goals or more than 50 pts in a season since 2013.

He's just very vanilla to me. He's a 4x5 contract that'll be regretted in 1.5 years IMO.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jun 13 @ 10:19 AM ET
Which is MADNESS to me.... dude hasn't scored 20 goals or more than 50 pts in a season since 2013.

He's just very vanilla to me. He's a 4x5 contract that'll be regretted in 1.5 years IMO.

- JVince11


Yep hopefully he stays away from us but word is he wants to go back to the avs
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:20 AM ET
Which is MADNESS to me.... dude hasn't scored 20 goals or more than 50 pts in a season since 2013.

He's just very vanilla to me. He's a 4x5 contract that'll be regretted in 1.5 years IMO.

- JVince11


I don't disagree, but like you said, a team like MTL that is desperate for centers will make him a longer offer. I don't see a 2-year deal being a competitive bid unless you start talking crazy money
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jun 13 @ 10:25 AM ET
Carolina seeking Saad in a Faulk trade


https://chicago.suntimes....er&utm_content=1528818790
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:27 AM ET
Yep hopefully he stays away from us but word is he wants to go back to the avs
- gerbe75pts


Sent you a friend request.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
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Jun 13 @ 10:29 AM ET
Yep hopefully he stays away from us but word is he wants to go back to the avs
- gerbe75pts


They are ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO need for a center.

MacKinnon
Kerfoot
Solderberg
Compher

And all things being honest... they need to look to trade Solderberg to promote Compher. I miss that dude being in our pipeline.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
They are ZEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO need for a center.

MacKinnon
Kerfoot
Solderberg
Compher

And all things being honest... they need to look to trade Solderberg to promote Compher. I miss that dude being in our pipeline.

- JVince11


Why don't they just have Soderberg play on the 4th line.
gerbe75pts
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Jun 13 @ 10:32 AM ET
Sent you a friend request.
- Pegullaville


Good looks I will add you
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:33 AM ET
Carolina seeking Saad in a Faulk trade


https://chicago.suntimes....er&utm_content=1528818790

- gerbe75pts


They didn't learn their lesson with the last Blackhawks players they signed/traded for in Kruger..

Teuvo, TVR, Darling, Nordstrom.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:34 AM ET
They didn't learn their lesson with the last Blackhawks players they signed/traded for in Kruger..

Teuvo, TVR, Darling, Nordstrom.

- JVince11


Teuvo, TVR and Nordstrom are useful players for them. Darling busted and Kruger was a cap dump.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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Jun 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
Could we land Saad for Jake ? I'm going with his trade value now
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:39 AM ET
Teuvo, TVR and Nordstrom are useful players for them. Darling busted and Kruger was a cap dump.
- TheSabresTaco


Oh I know that those guys are all good players... I was just saying Kruger. I don't konw if I call Darling a bust already.

Didn't Carolina sign that Bryan Bickell too to his first big contract after he left Chicago or was that Nashville? I just remember that being a bust contract.
JVince11
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Jun 13 @ 10:43 AM ET
Could we land Saad for Jake ? I'm going with his trade value now
- gerbe75pts


If I was a Chicago fan I'd be so f'n mad.... They LOVED Saad and had to see him go to Columbus for Anisomiv, Tropp, and Dano.

Their fans said he was the glue for them and if they got him back they'd win championships again.

Chicago then goes down a dumb hole and trades Panarin now to Columbus to get Saad back.

Now they are looking to deal Saad AGAIN for Faulk or in our scenario a McCabe.


Imagine giving up Panarin and his 233 pts in 243 career games for Faulk and Anisomiv.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:45 AM ET
Could we land Saad for Jake ? I'm going with his trade value now
- gerbe75pts



from your article:

‘‘Brandon actually did a lot of good things on the ice,’’ Bowman said in April. ‘‘His conversion rate was just really low this year. We look at that as kind of an anomaly. We think he’s going to get back to his normal production.’’

It could be that Bowman is just posturing and trying to up his trade value, but I think the optics alone would prevent them from trading Saad for anything less than a perceived game-breaking talent.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:50 AM ET
Complete hypothetical that popped into my head.

I know a lot of people like the idea of us prying Grubeaur away from Washington because he is an RFA, Holtby is the starter, and Samsonov is a stud goalie of the future.

What if Holtby (making 6.1M for 2 years) asks for 8-9M next summer as an extension. They balk at it and now look to move him in favor of Samsonov or if they keep Grubeaur.

What do you do if any of them are on the trade market? Would you pay a Stanley Cup winning goalie that cost? or a 1st pick for Grubeaur or Samsonov?
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
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Jun 13 @ 10:51 AM ET
ewn gobl
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 13 @ 10:52 AM ET
from your article:

‘‘Brandon actually did a lot of good things on the ice,’’ Bowman said in April. ‘‘His conversion rate was just really low this year. We look at that as kind of an anomaly. We think he’s going to get back to his normal production.’’

It could be that Bowman is just posturing and trying to up his trade value, but I think the optics alone would prevent them from trading Saad for anything less than a perceived game-breaking talent.

- jcragcrumple

Saad is excellent and is going nowhere. Where is all this coming from with him?

I mean, I called it absurd to trade Panarin and people said his production was all Patty Kane, but Saad is still really good
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