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BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:21 AM ET
It is trash! We should've never let this happen. Embarrassing. Sad!
- YuenglingJagr


I'm pretty sure that neither Hextall nor Pryor listen to JMatch, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:21 AM ET
It is trash! We should've never let this happen. Embarrassing. Sad!
- YuenglingJagr


He needs some help. He's still stuck driving an 05/06 Civic.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:22 AM ET
(though personally I'd rather have Berggren than any of the centers left on the board), between Hayton, Lundestrom, and Kupari, you'd probably have at least 2 to pick from at 19.
- BiggE

I want a defenseman, but would definitely be good with those 4. I would rank them Berggren, Lundestrom....Kupari/Hayton
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:22 AM ET
I'm pretty sure that neither Hextall nor Pryor listen to JMatch, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.


- BiggE


Quiet, alt me.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:24 AM ET
Quiet, alt me.
- jmatchett383

Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 14 @ 10:24 AM ET
Quiet, alt me.
- jmatchett383

BiggE just needs a scotch. It's like morning coffee- he's a little grumpy before he swigs it down
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:26 AM ET
I want a defenseman, but would definitely be good with those 4. I would rank them Berggren, Lundestrom....Kupari/Hayton
- YuenglingJagr


I hear you, I'm not a big fan of most of the higher ranked centers in this draft. I'd be looking for BPA at #19 which would likely be a winger or Dman. Berggren, Denisenko, Sandin, or Miller would all be guys I like better than any of the 3 centers I mentioned.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:26 AM ET
BiggE just needs a scotch. It's like morning coffee- he's a little grumpy before he swigs it down
- Giroux_Is_God


This is known.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 14 @ 10:28 AM ET
I'm pretty sure that neither Hextall nor Pryor listen to JMatch, so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it.


- BiggE



I call Calgary and ask how bad they want in on the 1st round. 19 for Sam Bennett. Get a 3rd line center and someone who can kill penalties. Also think he needs a change of scenery. So at 14 you get help in the future but 9 get you help now and to build with. Bennett can move to wing once someone in house like Frost or Vorobyev are ready.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 14 @ 10:30 AM ET
I hear you, I'm not a big fan of most of the higher ranked centers in this draft. I'd be looking for BPA at #19 which would likely be a winger or Dman. Berggren, Denisenko, Sandin, or Miller would all be guys I like better than any of the 3 centers I mentioned.
- BiggE



I still like your plan from the other day. Use Simmonds to get another 1st rounder. Then you really can move around. I really feel like AZ could be a fit for Simmonds. With resigning Ekman-Larson, they are showing they need to start winning and need more winning type vets to help bring this along.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:30 AM ET
I call Calgary and ask how bad they want in on the 1st round. 19 for Sam Bennett. Get a 3rd line center and someone who can kill penalties. Also think he needs a change of scenery. So at 14 you get help in the future but 9 get you help now and to build with. Bennett can move to wing once someone in house like Frost or Vorobyev are ready.
- J35Bacher


I'd be open to moving #19 for a young guy like Bennett. I'm really not in love with this draft once you get past the top 10-12 guys. Farabee is one of those guys and I'd be thrilled with him at 14. But unless one of the guys I love drops to 19 (which is highly unlikely), I'd be very open to trading the 19th pick for a young NHL player who can step right in and help the team.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
I call Calgary and ask how bad they want in on the 1st round. 19 for Sam Bennett. Get a 3rd line center and someone who can kill penalties. Also think he needs a change of scenery. So at 14 you get help in the future but 9 get you help now and to build with. Bennett can move to wing once someone in house like Frost or Vorobyev are ready.
- J35Bacher


If the Flyers can take Farabee and get S. Bennett for 19 then ok. *high five Hexy*

I don't see Calgary doing it.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
I still like your plan from the other day. Use Simmonds to get another 1st rounder. Then you really can move around. I really feel like AZ could be a fit for Simmonds. With resigning Ekman-Larson, they are showing they need to start winning and need more winning type vets to help bring this along.
- J35Bacher


If Arizona was willing to send us the 5th pick for Simmonds straight up?? I'd drive him to the airport and buy his first class ticket.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:31 AM ET
I'd be open to moving #19 for a young guy like Bennett. I'm really not in love with this draft once you get past the top 10-12 guys. Farabee is one of those guys and I'd be thrilled with him at 14. But unless one of the guys I love drops to 19 (which is highly unlikely), I'd be very open to trading the 19th pick for a young NHL player who can step right in and help the team.
- BiggE


So the reverse Schenn?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
If the Flyers can take Farabee and get S. Bennett for 19 then ok. *high five Hexy*

I don't see Calgary doing it.

- Glak18


Probably not, it seems they are looking to move a Dman to get into the first round, not a forward.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
So the reverse Schenn?
- dragonoffrost


Kind of, but I'd prefer someone a little younger than Schenn and on a cheaper deal.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 14 @ 10:34 AM ET
If the Flyers can take Farabee and get S. Bennett for 19 then ok. *high five Hexy*

I don't see Calgary doing it.

- Glak18



Weren't they hot after Weal when he was looking around? Maybe they'd do 19 and Weal
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:36 AM ET
Weren't they hot after Weal when he was looking around? Maybe they'd do 19 and Weal
- juiced


Never heard any news of anyone hot on Weal...ever.
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Jun 14 @ 10:37 AM ET
Never heard any news of anyone hot on Weal...ever.
- Glak18



Serious, I thought I read they offered him more but he stayed in Philly anyway.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:39 AM ET
I still like your plan from the other day. Use Simmonds to get another 1st rounder. Then you really can move around. I really feel like AZ could be a fit for Simmonds. With resigning Ekman-Larson, they are showing they need to start winning and need more winning type vets to help bring this along.
- J35Bacher


Need to get more than a first round pick for Simmonds. Why would a team like Arizona who is an up and coming team similar to the Flyers be willing to give up a first round pick AND a quality young NHL player that it would take to get Simmonds?
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jun 14 @ 10:40 AM ET
If Arizona was willing to send us the 5th pick for Simmonds straight up?? I'd drive him to the airport and buy his first class ticket.
- BiggE



What about this. I know it might look bad but hear me out.

To Edmonton: Simmonds and Vecchione
To Philadelphia: 10 and Lucic

Yes Lucic has 5 more years at 6 million but basically it's like resigning Simmonds in a way. You also still have a big body, physical presence and probably a super motivated player after a down year. Edmonton wants to move him to free up space. They also get a solid player in Simmonds to replace Lucic and a bottom 6 guy in Vecchione. The price is the 10th pick for the Flyers to take on the Lucic deal.

Now Flyers pick at 10, 14 and 19. That's plenty of ammo to move up, stay and take best player available or even get a youngish NHL vet. You could even trade back and get even more assets like early 2nd round picks.

Does it work or is the Lucic deal just too bad to want to play with. For me I don't see it as that bad as i think that is where Simmonds will end up resigning around.



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
What about this. I know it might look bad but hear me out.

To Edmonton: Simmonds and Vecchione
To Philadelphia: 10 and Lucic

Yes Lucic has 5 more years at 6 million but basically it's like resigning Simmonds in a way. You also still have a big body, physical presence and probably a super motivated player after a down year. Edmonton wants to move him to free up space. They also get a solid player in Simmonds to replace Lucic and a bottom 6 guy in Vecchione. The price is the 10th pick for the Flyers to take on the Lucic deal.

Now Flyers pick at 10, 14 and 19. That's plenty of ammo to move up, stay and take best player available or even get a youngish NHL vet. You could even trade back and get even more assets like early 2nd round picks.

Does it work or is the Lucic deal just too bad to want to play with. For me I don't see it as that bad as i think that is where Simmonds will end up resigning around.

- J35Bacher


Pass
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 14 @ 10:42 AM ET
What about this. I know it might look bad but hear me out.

To Edmonton: Simmonds and Vecchione
To Philadelphia: 10 and Lucic

Yes Lucic has 5 more years at 6 million but basically it's like resigning Simmonds in a way. You also still have a big body, physical presence and probably a super motivated player after a down year. Edmonton wants to move him to free up space. They also get a solid player in Simmonds to replace Lucic and a bottom 6 guy in Vecchione. The price is the 10th pick for the Flyers to take on the Lucic deal.

Now Flyers pick at 10, 14 and 19. That's plenty of ammo to move up, stay and take best player available or even get a youngish NHL vet. You could even trade back and get even more assets like early 2nd round picks.

Does it work or is the Lucic deal just too bad to want to play with. For me I don't see it as that bad as i think that is where Simmonds will end up resigning around.

- J35Bacher

I'd rather let jmatchett383 draft for us
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
What about this. I know it might look bad but hear me out.

To Edmonton: Simmonds and Vecchione
To Philadelphia: 10 and Lucic

Yes Lucic has 5 more years at 6 million but basically it's like resigning Simmonds in a way. You also still have a big body, physical presence and probably a super motivated player after a down year. Edmonton wants to move him to free up space. They also get a solid player in Simmonds to replace Lucic and a bottom 6 guy in Vecchione. The price is the 10th pick for the Flyers to take on the Lucic deal.

Now Flyers pick at 10, 14 and 19. That's plenty of ammo to move up, stay and take best player available or even get a youngish NHL vet. You could even trade back and get even more assets like early 2nd round picks.

Does it work or is the Lucic deal just too bad to want to play with. For me I don't see it as that bad as i think that is where Simmonds will end up resigning around.

- J35Bacher


I know where you are coming from, but my nuts still jumped up into my stomach.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 14 @ 10:43 AM ET
BREAKING NEWS:

According to league sources, the proposed trade between the Flyers and Panthers has not been officially filed by the league office. Philadelphia's incompetent GM has contacted the league office with their intention of rescinding the trade offer.

More to come.
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