If we traded ROR, would anyone trade 32 for Tyler Johnson?

- JVince11

It's actually a really good trade proposal.

- JVince11

Do you know anything about those players? Because "the worst" wouldn't include Vince Dunn.

I think you are really overthinking or overvaluing the value of Matt Moulson in the NHL.
- ImThatGuy

It’s not Moulson
I just think little things like that make the organization look good

Certainly doesn’t hurt...

Still waiting for someone to tell me how that .67mil Cap hit is gonna affect us

If we traded ROR, would anyone trade 32 for Tyler Johnson?
- TheSabresTaco

Sure
But he’s a wing now
And if we did move him back to Center,
he’s not a guy that’s gonna take on defensive responsibilities

- JVince11

It isn't the worst, if you're looking a little bit longer range. Dunn is an NHL player now. I wouldn't be thrilled with it in the short term, but maybe 3 years from now, we'd all love it.

*shrugs

It’s not Moulson
I just think little things like that make the organization look good

Certainly doesn’t hurt...

Still waiting for someone to tell me how that .67mil Cap hit is gonna affect us
- jdfitz77

That is more than Evan Rodrigues's salary.

So if you buy him out, you potentially can't add a player you want under the cap

Disagree

And still didn’t answer the questions
- jdfitz77

Your hypothetical questions are complete BS

It’s a business.

He sucks.

The Sabres did him a favor and sent him somewhere to be closer to his family.

Dragging this out another year looks extremely foolish when the savings is next to nothing.

Moving on.

I have a feeling people here think Allen is better than he actually is.

He's..pretty much Lehner.
- TheSabresTaco

He looked great a couple years ago
Fell apart this past year
If we are moving in from Lehner,
I would mind us taking a shot with Allen

if you're not ror, you're ___________
- Michael Pachla

in the penalty box at least twice in a season

Sure
But he’s a wing now
And if we did move him back to Center,
he’s not a guy that’s gonna take on defensive responsibilities
- jdfitz77

Why not? He can, and has.

It’s not Moulson
I just think little things like that make the organization look good

Certainly doesn’t hurt...

Still waiting for someone to tell me how that .67mil Cap hit is gonna affect us
- jdfitz77

What if they’re really good next year and make moves and put them against the cap?

It’s not like they’ve never been up against the cap before which prevented some call ups.

It’s dumb to waste cap space on someone you can be done with after this coming season.

anyone wanna send me to california as a favor
- robz228

hit gerbe's dad up

he may need a tax write off

It’s not Moulson
I just think little things like that make the organization look good

Certainly doesn’t hurt...

Still waiting for someone to tell me how that .67mil Cap hit is gonna affect us
- jdfitz77

See post above, if you get close to the cap in could prohibit you from making roster moves for injuries and calling players up.

I think it was two years ago the Sabres had to "Send guys down" so their salary wouldnt count towards the cap for days at a time.

So yes, 3/4 of a million dollars could really affect your roster.

It isn't the worst, if you're looking a little bit longer range. Dunn is an NHL player now. I wouldn't be thrilled with it in the short term, but maybe 3 years from now, we'd all love it.

*shrugs
- Powerslave

Yeah, pass. Eichel needs wingers now, not in 3 years

It isn't the worst, if you're looking a little bit longer range. Dunn is an NHL player now. I wouldn't be thrilled with it in the short term, but maybe 3 years from now, we'd all love it.

*shrugs
- Powerslave

Depends what you're looking for as far as short or long. This one is mid -Thomas a year away, 28th OA couple years away- and you get a legit top 4 (or more) in Dunn. Of course, it creates a log jam, and we'd need to bring that vet center back somehow, but it would bolster our pathetic top 6 center depth, our D depth and our overall prospect depth. Sign a FA or trade a depth D for a defensive center.

Now you're left with the wing still being poopty without your best trade chip. So, really, it depends on your goals for the season.

That is more than Evan Rodrigues's salary.

So if you buy him out, you potentially can't add a player you want under the cap
- jcragcrumple

It’s extremely unlikely we will be close enough to the Cap for it to have an effect

There’s ppl on here who wanna buy out Bogo, and he’d cost like 2mil i believe
Now that’s a significant enough amount that I’d say not to do it

What if they’re really good next year and make moves and put them against the cap?

It’s not like they’ve never been up against the cap before which prevented some call ups.

It’s dumb to waste cap space on someone you can be done with after this coming season.
- Stripes77

I don't want to jump back into this tire fire.. but.. this won't happen.

Your hypothetical questions are complete BS

It’s a business.

He sucks.

The Sabres did him a favor and sent him somewhere to be closer to his family.

Dragging this out another year looks extremely foolish when the savings is next to nothing.

Moving on.
- Stripes77

No they aren’t
It buys good will
And the Cap hit won’t hurt us
It’s obvious, even if u refuse to admit it

It’s extremely unlikely we will be close enough to the Cap for it to have an effect

There’s ppl on here who wanna buy out Bogo, and he’d cost like 2mil i believe
Now that’s a significant enough amount that I’d say not to do it
- jdfitz77

But buying it Bogo saves cap space for the next 3 seasons in the millions. It’s two totally different scenarios.

A Bogo buyout is thinking long term.

You’re completely missing the point of what the buyouts are for.

I don't want to jump back into this tire fire.. but.. this won't happen.
- TheSabresTaco

It won’t?

I’m not talking this coming season.

I’m talking the 2019-2020 season

Do you know anything about those players? Because "the worst" wouldn't include Vince Dunn.
- TheSabresTaco

It's not the ideal trade scenario.

You do not trade your best trade chip in ROR for ANOTHER young Dman with top 4 potential. We already have 3 or 4 of those. Thomas is a decent C prospect with likely 3C ceiling or maybe 2C... AGAIN... we have PLENTY of 2C/3C potential players. Then you get a 28th overall 1st round pick.


It's not "the worst" but it's a dumb trade because you are dealing your best chip for 2 areas where we already have a plethora of depth at. It doesn't actually solve anything. It makes more pieces that we have to hopefully trade then to solve an actual problem.

No they aren’t
It buys good will
And the Cap hit won’t hurt us
It’s obvious, even if u refuse to admit it
- jdfitz77

With who?

Why not? He can, and has.
- TheSabresTaco

Defensively?
There’s a reason he was moved to the wing

Plus,
he’d be more effective on the wing with Jack or Casey then he would be trying to shut down other teams’ top centers

He’s a good offensive player
I would t put him in a defensive role

Yeah, pass. Eichel needs wingers now, not in 3 years
- jcragcrumple

So, O'Reilly is the only way we get a winger for Eichel?