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deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Jun 21 @ 10:54 AM ET
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- Pat1993


Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:55 AM ET
If Eller and Shaw get you 2 2 dn round picks then ROR should get you 2 2nd round picks and +++.

Scherbak was one of the guy I did mention in a trade. Don't know how much Buffalo would want him. Maybe in a package, but still.

Losing Mete or Juulsen would be a disaster. Most likely Poehling as well.

Even with ROR, is this a playoffs team? Mete is most likely a top 4 defenseman on this team....

- deadpoulet


The delta between RoR and Statsny is not that large, especially given neither will transform this club into a cup contender.

I'd rather blow cap space than give away players/prospects by trying to get Stastny.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
The delta between RoR and Statsny is not that large, especially given neither will transform this club into a cup contender.

I'd rather blow cap space than give away palyers/prospects by trying to get Stastny.

- Mashadar


Don't let waterboy hear you say that!!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 10:57 AM ET
unless he's talking to Peter Chiarelli.
- DoubleDown


At least this is a 50/50 toss up. With anyone else, MB get robbed.
pete26
Montreal Canadiens
Location: (HE, HIM, HIS), ON
Joined: 11.20.2008

Jun 21 @ 11:32 AM ET
So that's it?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:37 AM ET
So that's it?
- pete26


Not sure how many more comments about what side Juulsen plays or if we should trade for RoR (and what the package should be) or if Kotkaniemi, Zadina, or Tkachuk should be selected.

Lets all just bask in the inevitable (frank)-upery MB will create in the next 32-34 hours.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 11:40 AM ET
Not sure how many more comments about what side Juulsen plays or if we should trade for RoR (and what the package should be) or if Kotkaniemi, Zadina, or Tkachuk should be selected.

Lets all just bask in the inevitable (frank)-upery MB will create in the next 32-34 hours.

- Mashadar


How about this...

Pacioretty, De La Rose, Lindgren + 38th overall for Bennett & Valimaki?

What would you think of that trade at the draft?
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:41 AM ET
How about this...

Pacioretty, De La Rose, Lindgren + 38th overall for Bennett & Valimaki?

What would you think of that trade at the draft?

- obie


Patches won't be traded until JT signs a contract (wherever that might be), IMO.
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
Drouin ROR Zadina (assuming Pacioretty + picks are dealt)
Domi Danault Gally
Byron DLR Lehkonen
Hudon Shaw Deslauriers

Is this a playoffs team? I think it is. Exit in 1st round, though.

- Good On Paper


Not terrible, but no finishers. That's the problem with Pacioretty for ROR. Clear upgrade at center but we re challenged for offense even with Pacioretty.

Come to think of it, I don't think Pacioretty can possibly be traded with Galchenyuk gone.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
Patches won't be traded until JT signs a contract (wherever that might be), IMO.
- Mashadar


That is very possible indeed but I believe Bergevin already knows what his odds are of landing Tavares... For the sake of conversation let's say he doesn't come to Montreal, would you make that deal if you're Bergevin?
jugkope
Location: Possibly at the Zoo
Joined: 07.19.2009

Jun 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
How about this...

Pacioretty, De La Rose, Lindgren + 38th overall for Bennett & Valimaki?

What would you think of that trade at the draft?

- obie


Why we we trade our big center away?
WaterBoy
Location: The opposite of what Pat says, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 21 @ 11:45 AM ET
Why we we trade our big center away?
- jugkope

Clearly the difference maker in that HUGE deal.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 11:49 AM ET
Why we we trade our big center away?
- jugkope


Cause they still have Mccarron of course, obviously Bergevin is dealing from a position of strength with all those big centers around!!
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Cause they still have Mccarron of course, obviously Bergevin is dealing from a position of strength with all those big centers around!!
- obie

Don't forget we ll also be drafting Tka(frank), another BIG center.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
That is very possible indeed but I believe Bergevin already knows what his odds are of landing Tavares... For the sake of conversation let's say he doesn't come to Montreal, would you make that deal if you're Bergevin?
- obie


If I am Calgary, I probably don't, for the simple fact that they have a lot of $$ tied up in D and Valamaki would be cheap player with decent upside to slide into the top 6. And given there is talk of trading one of their top 4, I doubt they also want to get rid of Valamaki.

And no, I would not make that trade, from a Habs perspective. Bennet is not enough of an upgrade and the Habs might be able to get a comparative D with their second round picks.

That being said, I am still 90% sure MB does not trade Patches under any circumstances.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 11:51 AM ET
Patches won't be traded until JT signs a contract (wherever that might be), IMO.
- Mashadar

Bergevin knows he has no chance to sign JT, Leafs have prepared a promotional video that shows the billion he will make in sponsorship once he signs a 1 year deal with the Leafs, Habs can't compete with that.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
If I am Calgary, I probably don't, for the simple fact that they have a lot of $$ tied up in D and Valamaki would be cheap player with decent upside to slide into the top 6. And given there is talk of trading one of their top 4, I doubt they also want to get rid of Valamaki.

And no, I would not make that trade, from a Habs perspective. Bennet is not enough of an upgrade and the Habs might be able to get a comparative D with their second round picks.

That being said, I am still 90% sure MB does not trade Patches under any circumstances.

- Mashadar


Very well... The hope is obviously that Bennett becomes more than what he's shown, he's only 22 and could still become a decent 2nd line C and would be hitting his prime at around the time the Habs should be competitive again, or so we hope... As far as grabbing someone like Valimaki in the second round, it's possible for sure but he's almost ready to play now and could be paired up with Weber now as oppose to a guy who may get there in 2 years, not that there's anything wrong with that... But the best point you made is that Calgary would most likely be moving a big ticket D out to make room for the much cheaper Valimaki
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 11:58 AM ET
Don't forget we ll also be drafting Tka(frank), another BIG center.
- apex123


Yes... That goes without saying lol!!
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
Bergevin knows he has no chance to sign JT, Leafs have prepared a promotional video that shows the billion he will make in sponsorship once he signs a 1 year deal with the Leafs, Habs can't compete with that.
- Symba007


Regardless, I don't think he does trade Patches, and not before July 1st.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 12:03 PM ET
Regardless, I don't think he does trade Patches, and not before July 1st.
- Mashadar


You think he'll resign him?
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Tkachuk is center now? wtf

Eric Engels‏Verified account @EricEngels · 15m15 minutes ago

All I can say is that if Matthew Tkachuk isn't the only one that believes his brother is a future No. 1 centre, things just got a lot more interesting.

DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jun 21 @ 12:05 PM ET
Bergevin knows he has no chance to sign JT, Leafs have prepared a promotional video that shows the billion he will make in sponsorship once he signs a 1 year deal with the Leafs, Habs can't compete with that.
- Symba007


always a classic
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
You think he'll resign him?
- obie


Yes, I actually do think he will try to re-sign him as of July 1st.
Mashadar
Location: Let the creamy goaltending season begin!
Joined: 08.31.2014

Jun 21 @ 12:07 PM ET
Tkachuk is center now? wtf

Eric Engels‏Verified account @EricEngels · 15m15 minutes ago

All I can say is that if Matthew Tkachuk isn't the only one that believes his brother is a future No. 1 centre, things just got a lot more interesting.

- Symba007


That is a brother trying to get his brother drafted as high as possible.

Tkachuk seems ok, but also seems like the one in the top 5-6 has the potential to be just meh.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jun 21 @ 12:08 PM ET
Yes, I actually do think he will try to re-sign him as of July 1st.
- Mashadar


I wouldn't be against that idea, especially if they land JT... What terms are we looking at?
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