Hypothetically speaking, would you trade Simmonds for Panarin? He is signed for one more year at 6M and what would he want after that year. Not sure Columbus would but Simmonds is a Torts type of player for sure.
- Daceroni

No...Simmonds has intangibles and Panarin is an obvious communist that cannot be trusted.

Jenik: As the youngest player in the Draft this year -- had he been born one day later, he wouldn't be draft eligible until next year -- you almost have to project him like he's a 2019 candidate. I'd be fine with him as the second-round pick at 50 because he'd apparently be on a first-round path for next year at his current rate.

Roman: Hard to judge because of the injury setbacks but seems to be a pretty good playmaker. Only saw him play one this season on a game stream but he was quick on the rush and had a really nice assist.

Topping: Flyers don't have a third-round pick, which is probably about where I'd slot him, but as a fourth-round candidate, sure. Not big, but he's stocky and pretty smart. As long as you are projecting him as a bottom-six type, and more on the lower end of that probably, I think there could be some value there.

Regula: Second-round mix for me. He was Evan Bouchard's regular partner, and a glue guy on the pairing. Righthanded shot, good size, good first pass, decent mobility and pretty good without the puck. Wouldn't be a sexy pick but is a pretty safe one, and not a zero offensively, either.
- bmeltzer

thanks

Every player???
- jmatchett383

If utter joy and complete satisfaction is considered compensation for a player leaving then I completely agree with the statement.

Every player???
- jmatchett383

Who am I missing? I cant recall one of any significance. Maybe Boyd Gordon and AHL vets. Probably the most prominent Mark Alt off the top of my head.

I would kiss you on the lips if either one happened.
- Glak18

Both deals I would do.

The Edmonton one is interesting in that then you have 10, 14 and 19. Depending what happens at 10 then maybe you you trade 19 to move back for more picks, say Detroit at 30 and 33? Or maybe you make a play and move up into the top 5 and try to get a top guy like Tkatchuk, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Kotkaniemi or possibly Zadina if he slide.

Lots of options.

Re Simmonds to Boston:

I just don't see a deal to be made between the 2 teams. If Simmonds is going to be moved, the 2 best fits I see are Edmonton or Minnesota and the team would need to be one of the 12 that Simmonds, as per his contract, would accept a trade to.

I can see either of:

TO EDM: Simmonds
TO PHI: The 10th overall pick and 3rd round pick, #71, in the upcoming draft

or

TO MIN: Simmonds
TO PHI: Minnesota's 1st round pick, #24, in the upcoming and C/RW Luke Kunin
- BiggE

cant see oilers doing it - despite the GM

wild possible

I am in the minority though arizona wants to get going imo. Depending on what the flyers want i can see them as a potential partner.

They moved #7 last year and may be inclined to move #5 if the right deal is there; will take more than wayne though.

Much rather you just buy me a drink.

Just sayin....

Seriously though, I can absolutely see Chia making a deal like that. He's under enormous pressure to make the playoffs next year and the Oilers are woefully thin on the wings. He's also not very bright.
- BiggE

Fine! I guess someone isn't easy.

Both deals I would do.

The Edmonton one is interesting in that then you have 10, 14 and 19. Depending what happens at 10 then maybe you you trade 19 to move back for more picks, say Detroit at 30 and 33? Or maybe you make a play and move up into the top 5 and try to get a top guy like Tkatchuk, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Kotkaniemi or possibly Zadina if he slide.

Lots of options.
- J35Bacher

It probably plays out a little less exciting than we are all assuming, but the talent range and uncertainty behind this draft has been pretty fun. I don't see the price to move up being worth it, but I trust them to decide if it is.

Who am I missing? I cant recall one of any significance. Maybe Boyd Gordon and AHL vets. Probably the most prominent Mark Alt off the top of my head.
- ravishingone

MDZ

MDZ
- rinaldo

good call, forgot about him

They moved #7 last year and may be inclined to move #5 if the right deal is there; will take more than wayne though.
- rinaldo

They moved #7 after quite honestly getting screwed in the lottery and missing out on the higher end talent in the draft. They also did it for a 1/2 center with term and their goalie for the foreseeable future. My guess is that it would take a lot more than Wayne Simmonds

Hexy has always got some asset back from every player under contract with the Flyers. He just doesnt let a free agent leave without getting compensation. It s going to be hard not to get Simmonds take much less then the Oshie deal, I do believe Simmonds gets moved in the next couple of weeks. He mentions how he doesnt want to add significant term with a free agent, certainly reasonable to think this would apply to potential free agents on his roster even though it wont occur to next summer.
- ravishingone

I can see Simmonds getting Oshie's cap hit, but not the term.

Who am I missing? I cant recall one of any significance. Maybe Boyd Gordon and AHL vets. Probably the most prominent Mark Alt off the top of my head.
- ravishingone

Mason and Gagner

Mason and Gagner
- YuenglingJagr

Mason and a 2nd for Neurvirth.

Trading up to get Dobson would be exciting.

cant see oilers doing it - despite the GM

wild possible

I am in the minority though arizona wants to get going imo. Depending on what the flyers want i can see them as a potential partner.

They moved #7 last year and may be inclined to move #5 if the right deal is there; will take more than wayne though.
- rinaldo

I have brought up thins point before. I think they make sense because they need to start moving forward and need the right vets. To me Simmonds kind of reminds me of Shane Doan. I think that would perfect for them.

Bundy forgot his deodorant at the draft.....That's funny stuff.

He was a wee bit stronger than he cared to be......

OK, this is strictly my own take based on a gut feeling. Ron Hextall keeps everything close to the vest.

However, from the gist of what I've heard from those I know in and/or are trusted by the upper-levels in the organization, I would not be surprised if they are fine with listening to offers for Simmonds. I also think they are NOT inclined to move him at the end of the day unless it is a no-brainer in Hextall's own estimation.

Otherwise, the intention appears to be to try to resign him, even if it goes into next season without a new deal. There is a goal internally to push the regular season point total over 100 points and to win a playoff round but without dealing assets/ prospects or pursuing the top-of-the-line external free agents. That's going to require all hands on deck to do.

Hextall is very big on the intangibles. If you listened to Anthony SF's podcast with Hexy last week, the GM talked a lot about fit within the room, general work habits and a player's desire to be a Flyer as things he factors along with all the on-ice stuff. It was said in reference to NHL-level roster decisions and not the Draft, in this case.

I know for an absolute fact that the players in the room consider Simmonds to be the guy who internally operates as the bad cop when needed yet is deeply respected and admired. Unless it's for a bigger return than the Flyers are likely to get, it would likely go over poorly within the room if he's traded. That is especially true on the heels of all that he played through this past season and the way he has everyone else's back on the ice and in public. Simmonds wears his heart on his sleeve, and wants to spend the rest of his career as a Flyer. He's said as much, but everyone knew it, anyway.

Is it impossible that Simmonds gets traded, whether at the Draft or by the trade deadline of next season? No.

Right now, though, it would take a lot of incentive to do so, and not primarily a draft pick asset in his particular case. The teams that are picking atop the Draft aren't the market where Simmonds would be their main off-season target. And what team that is a Simmonds type away from Cup contention would trade from its fast-rising young NHL roster talent plus a conditional high-end pick (even if it is in 2019) to do it, because I think that is the price tag the Flyers would have in mind.

Again, I could be proven 100 percent wrong. It's just my read.

OK, this is strictly my own take based on a gut feeling. Ron Hextall keeps everything close to the vest.

However, from the gist of what I've heard from those I know in and/or are trusted by the upper-levels in the organization, I would not be surprised if they are fine with listening to offers for Simmonds. I also think they are NOT inclined to move him at the end of the day unless it is a no-brainer in Hextall's own estimation.

Otherwise, the intention appears to be to try to resign him, even if it goes into next season without a new deal. There is a goal internally to push the regular season point total over 100 points and to win a playoff round but without dealing assets/ prospects or pursuing the top-of-the-line external free agents. That's going to require all hands on deck to do.

Hextall is very big on the intangibles. If you listened to Anthony SF's podcast with Hexy last week, the GM talked a lot about fit within the room, general work habits and a player's desire to be a Flyer as things he factors along with all the on-ice stuff. It was said in reference to NHL-level roster decisions and not the Draft, in this case.

I know for an absolute fact that the players in the room consider Simmonds to be the guy who internally operates as the bad cop when needed yet is deeply respected and admired. Unless it's for a bigger return than the Flyers are likely to get, it would likely go over poorly within the room if he's traded. That is especially true on the heels of all that he played through this past season and the way he has everyone else's back on the ice and in public. Simmonds wears his heart on his sleeve, and wants to spend the rest of his career as a Flyer. He's said as much, but everyone knew it, anyway.

Is it impossible that Simmonds gets traded, whether at the Draft or by the trade deadline of next season? No.

Right now, though, it would take a lot of incentive to do so, and not primarily a draft pick asset in his particular case. The teams that are picking atop the Draft aren't the market where Simmonds would be their main off-season target. And what team that is a Simmonds type away from Cup contention would trade from its fast-rising young NHL roster talent plus a conditional high-end pick (even if it is in 2019) to do it, because I think that is the price tag the Flyers would have in mind.

Again, I could be proven 100 percent wrong. It's just my read.
- bmeltzer

Love this! Thanks, Bill.

I am fine with keeping Simmonds until the trade deadline. By then he should be moved, or signed to a reasonable deal that takes into account he'll be 31 when it starts.

Cracking 100 points as a team and winning a playoff team is going to require better goaltending and MUCH better penalty killing. Hopefully there are plans in place to make both of those things happen.

OK, this is strictly my own take based on a gut feeling. Ron Hextall keeps everything close to the vest.

However, from the gist of what I've heard from those I know in and/or are trusted by the upper-levels in the organization, I would not be surprised if they are fine with listening to offers for Simmonds. I also think they are NOT inclined to move him at the end of the day unless it is a no-brainer in Hextall's own estimation.

Otherwise, the intention appears to be to try to resign him, even if it goes into next season without a new deal. There is a goal internally to push the regular season point total over 100 points and to win a playoff round but without dealing assets/ prospects or pursuing the top-of-the-line external free agents. That's going to require all hands on deck to do.

Hextall is very big on the intangibles. If you listened to Anthony SF's podcast with Hexy last week, the GM talked a lot about fit within the room, general work habits and a player's desire to be a Flyer as things he factors along with all the on-ice stuff. It was said in reference to NHL-level roster decisions and not the Draft, in this case.

I know for an absolute fact that the players in the room consider Simmonds to be the guy who internally operates as the bad cop when needed yet is deeply respected and admired. Unless it's for a bigger return than the Flyers are likely to get, it would likely go over poorly within the room if he's traded. That is especially true on the heels of all that he played through this past season and the way he has everyone else's back on the ice and in public. Simmonds wears his heart on his sleeve, and wants to spend the rest of his career as a Flyer. He's said as much, but everyone knew it, anyway.

Is it impossible that Simmonds gets traded, whether at the Draft or by the trade deadline of next season? No.

Right now, though, it would take a lot of incentive to do so, and not primarily a draft pick asset in his particular case. The teams that are picking atop the Draft aren't the market where Simmonds would be their main off-season target. And what team that is a Simmonds type away from Cup contention would trade from its fast-rising young NHL roster talent plus a conditional high-end pick (even if it is in 2019) to do it, because I think that is the price tag the Flyers would have in mind.

Again, I could be proven 100 percent wrong. It's just my read.
- bmeltzer

Okay....FINE! I will settle for Kyle Connor

From my view, which is much further away than yours, I agree and have the chances of him being traded away as pretty slim. I do think getting a good package for him would outweigh the negatives you mentioned. Not as easy of a pill to swallow without a direct replacement right this moment, but doable.

OK, this is strictly my own take based on a gut feeling. Ron Hextall keeps everything close to the vest.

However, from the gist of what I've heard from those I know in and/or are trusted by the upper-levels in the organization, I would not be surprised if they are fine with listening to offers for Simmonds. I also think they are NOT inclined to move him at the end of the day unless it is a no-brainer in Hextall's own estimation.

Otherwise, the intention appears to be to try to resign him, even if it goes into next season without a new deal. There is a goal internally to push the regular season point total over 100 points and to win a playoff round but without dealing assets/ prospects or pursuing the top-of-the-line external free agents. That's going to require all hands on deck to do.

Hextall is very big on the intangibles. If you listened to Anthony SF's podcast with Hexy last week, the GM talked a lot about fit within the room, general work habits and a player's desire to be a Flyer as things he factors along with all the on-ice stuff. It was said in reference to NHL-level roster decisions and not the Draft, in this case.

I know for an absolute fact that the players in the room consider Simmonds to be the guy who internally operates as the bad cop when needed yet is deeply respected and admired. Unless it's for a bigger return than the Flyers are likely to get, it would likely go over poorly within the room if he's traded. That is especially true on the heels of all that he played through this past season and the way he has everyone else's back on the ice and in public. Simmonds wears his heart on his sleeve, and wants to spend the rest of his career as a Flyer. He's said as much, but everyone knew it, anyway.

Is it impossible that Simmonds gets traded, whether at the Draft or by the trade deadline of next season? No.

Right now, though, it would take a lot of incentive to do so, and not primarily a draft pick asset in his particular case. The teams that are picking atop the Draft aren't the market where Simmonds would be their main off-season target. And what team that is a Simmonds type away from Cup contention would trade from its fast-rising young NHL roster talent plus a conditional high-end pick (even if it is in 2019) to do it, because I think that is the price tag the Flyers would have in mind.

Again, I could be proven 100 percent wrong. It's just my read.
- bmeltzer

I also believe Simmonds feels the Flyers have just as much chance to win the cup in the next fews years as anyone else.

Both deals I would do.

The Edmonton one is interesting in that then you have 10, 14 and 19. Depending what happens at 10 then maybe you you trade 19 to move back for more picks, say Detroit at 30 and 33? Or maybe you make a play and move up into the top 5 and try to get a top guy like Tkatchuk, Wahlstrom, Dobson, Kotkaniemi or possibly Zadina if he slide.

Lots of options.
- J35Bacher

I get all the specifics of why they need to trade Simmer. I also know how clutch it would be to get the 10th pick. But then, Hexy needs to go out and bring someone of substance back during free agency. And that can’t be just Riley Nash.

I know all the young players and guys deserving playing time. But that’s another 25-30 goals that need to be replaced. I’m also worried about what taking Simmonds out of that room does to the team dynamic. This is a tough decision to make for Hexy.

Who am I missing? I cant recall one of any significance. Maybe Boyd Gordon and AHL vets. Probably the most prominent Mark Alt off the top of my head.
- ravishingone

Umberger
Manning
Filppula
Read
Oduya
Streit
MDZ
Vandevelde
Schultz

They actually traded Alt, didn't let him walk.

Umberger
Manning
Filppula
Read
Oduya
Streit
MDZ
Vandevelde
Schultz

They actually traded Alt, didn't let him walk.
- jmatchett383

Alt was waived, not traded.