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turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jun 21 @ 5:09 PM ET
7.5 against the cap
- Shadman306


Yep but a cheap franchise who wants to save actual $$$ likes ROR a lot more after 6/30
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:10 PM ET
Yep but a cheap franchise who wants to save actual $$$ likes ROR a lot more after 6/30
- turbo044


If they go that route, it better be for players and prospects. Plz no 2019 draft picks. I would be so bored
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:11 PM ET
You love to argue with simplistic storytelling vs stats. Losses aren't automatic clears. Wins aren't always clear possession. You can try to make it black and white, but I reject the premise.

If you really want to make it Jack vs RoR, then Jack's exceptional zone entries trump RoR's exceptional faceoffs by a wide margin.

- Lunaion


Ok, I’ll make it even more simple

Do u want to win a faceoff on the PP?
Yes or no?
I’m gonna day it’s obviously YES

So then who would u rather have take the faceoff?
The guy who wins 60% or the guy who wins 40%

That answer also seems obvious


However...
if faceoffs don’t matter, then who cares who takes the faceoff... right?

Every coach in the history of hockey thinks they’re important
That’s why they put their best guy out there in important situations
U can try to spin it however u want,
But it’s the truth
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:16 PM ET
yes, I was frustrated with the Mitts pick last year ... from a position perspective since they were obviously so devoid of D talent...a gapping hole.
Similar to the LW gappign hole this year.

- IonSabres

Its hockey, you always take BPA.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:21 PM ET
Ok, I’ll make it even more simple

Do u want to win a faceoff on the PP?
Yes or no?
I’m gonna day it’s obviously YES

So then who would u rather have take the faceoff?
The guy who wins 60% or the guy who wins 40%

That answer also seems obvious


However...
if faceoffs don’t matter, then who cares who takes the faceoff... right?

Every coach in the history of hockey thinks they’re important
That’s why they put their best guy out there in important situations
U can try to spin it however u want,
But it’s the truth

- jdfitz77


I don't know why you like going down that path so often. Faceoff wins are good. No one has ever argued otherwise. The debate is about their significance over a large sample size.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:22 PM ET
Its hockey, you always take BPA.
- Mentalorgasm5


Botterill is clearly that guy. People were screaming for D in the draft last year, but he didn't panic in the second, he took the guys he thought were best. Who knows if he's right, but that levelheadedness is reassuring.

The Grigorenko panic pick is the opposite of that
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:23 PM ET
@Prospects_Watch
3m3 minutes ago
McGuire: "I know for a fact the Canadiens are in on Ryan O'Reilly, they're competing with Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota for him. I'll leave it at that, those are the ones I know for sure."


@Prospects_Watch
4m4 minutes ago
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McGuire says if there is a way for Buffalo to get Brady Tkachuk as well, they MIGHT overpay.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:24 PM ET
@Prospects_Watch
3m3 minutes ago
McGuire: "I know for a fact the Canadiens are in on Ryan O'Reilly, they're competing with Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota for him. I'll leave it at that, those are the ones I know for sure."

- GilPerreault11


JB sittin back...relaxin...lettin um fight over ROR. Its a good position to be in
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:24 PM ET
Oh look, the cap is under 80 mil. 79.5.

Like usual, didn’t go up to what was projected
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:27 PM ET
Lehner a UFA.

Thank you for your service Tim Murray
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Lehner a UFA.

Thank you for your service Tim Murray

- sbroads24


(frank), I owe Rhinofan 1000 internet points.

I'll pay, I'll pay. I just need a little time
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Cap is 79.5
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:29 PM ET
Well.............. the Ducks called and asked if there was any interest in Perry, they like ROR, can't see that happening. If they move ROR, there's some talk with Joe Thornton.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
Lehner a UFA.

Thank you for your service Tim Murray

- sbroads24


Just assuming? or is there news?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
@Prospects_Watch
3m3 minutes ago
McGuire: "I know for a fact the Canadiens are in on Ryan O'Reilly, they're competing with Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota for him. I'll leave it at that, those are the ones I know for sure."


@Prospects_Watch
4m4 minutes ago
More
McGuire says if there is a way for Buffalo to get Brady Tkachuk as well, they MIGHT overpay.

- GilPerreault11


Interesting

Heads up though...
if we take Tkachuk over Zadina, it’s gonna be like Allen over Rosen all over again
I’m gonna lose my damn mind
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
@Prospects_Watch
3m3 minutes ago
McGuire: "I know for a fact the Canadiens are in on Ryan O'Reilly, they're competing with Carolina, Philadelphia, Minnesota for him. I'll leave it at that, those are the ones I know for sure."


@Prospects_Watch
4m4 minutes ago
More
McGuire says if there is a way for Buffalo to get Brady Tkachuk as well, they MIGHT overpay.

- GilPerreault11


Is this Pierre McGuire?

This is a perfect scenario...get a bidding war going. I honestly haven't liked a lot of what the speculated returns are (Patches, Simmonds + 19), so hopefully this cranks it up a big!
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:30 PM ET
Lehner a UFA.

Thank you for your service Tim Murray

- sbroads24


Bob McKenzie

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BUF is not expected to give goaltender Robin Lehner his qualifying offer and he should be added to the list of UFA goalies available this summer as Sabres are likely to look elsewhere for a partner for Linus Ullmark.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 21 @ 5:31 PM ET
Bob McKenzie

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BUF is not expected to give goaltender Robin Lehner his qualifying offer and he should be added to the list of UFA goalies available this summer as Sabres are likely to look elsewhere for a partner for Linus Ullmark.

- GilPerreault11

Couldn't happen fast enough
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:32 PM ET
Interesting

Heads up though...
if we take Tkachuk over Zadina, it’s gonna be like Allen over Rosen all over again
I’m gonna lose my damn mind

- jdfitz77


To get a top 3 pick I wonder what overpay will be. Personally, I think it's Reinhart but that is just a guess.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 5:33 PM ET
I'd be happy if Beau was claimed unfortunately. I was happy with the trade for a 3rd initially as well. Swing and a miss.
- RhinoFan



I think he would be a good help to the D in Rochester. Help get the picks to our forwards in a minor league
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 21 @ 5:35 PM ET
With Edmonton willing to trade their #10 for a RHD we should call them, tell them to keep it, and they can have Bogo for free
GilPerreault11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: IL
Joined: 07.21.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
To get a top 3 pick I wonder what overpay will be. Personally, I think it's Reinhart but that is just a guess.
- GilPerreault11


A lot of reports are saying that Zadina is falling on current draft boards by NHL scouts mainly because of the need for centers.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:36 PM ET
POW
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
POW
- Stripes77


KAPOW BOOM SHAKALAKA!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 21 @ 5:39 PM ET
2 of their first 6 games are against Vegas

How dumb
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