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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
No. That's terrible value.
- Mononoke

I really hope there isn't a guy I like available in the third round...I feel like someone is going to be around where they could've picked
Lawless18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.30.2014

Jun 22 @ 2:41 PM ET
If Lehner is signed and plays as well as Mason has played for us I’d be ecstatic. Mason got a raw deal from both the team and a good number of fans. No sarcasm.
- StepfordSam



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 2:42 PM ET
I can safely say I have barely watched him. I would go O'Brien myself, but agree with the TBL pick
- YuenglingJagr


Haven’t really watched O’Brien play, but the reports I’ve read from people who have actually seen him play are pretty decent.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 22 @ 2:52 PM ET
Ek throwing his best fake contact under a bus if Karlsson doesn't end up getting moved.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 2:53 PM ET
Haven’t really watched O’Brien play, but the reports I’ve read from people who have actually seen him play are pretty decent.
- Nucker101

I'm not a scout...so sometimes I just get excited by what he does without the projection of what he would do against better competition. I liked how he looked for USDP though
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:03 PM ET
Re: K'Andre Miller

I really don't like reaching for him at 14 in this draft. Maybe he turns out to be the next Brent Burns... but probably not.

Re: Lehner

World of talent, but plays out of control, not the best team guy, and not so great at SO's.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
Re: K'Andre Miller

I really don't like reaching for him at 14 in this draft. Maybe he turns out to be the next Brent Burns... but probably not.

Re: Lehner

World of talent, but plays out of control, not the best team guy, and not so great at SO's.

- Tomahawk


I like Miller, but not at 14. I can live with him at 19 if they’re set on taking a dman.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
Re: K'Andre Miller

I really don't like reaching for him at 14 in this draft. Maybe he turns out to be the next Brent Burns... but probably not.

Re: Lehner

World of talent, but plays out of control, not the best team guy, and not so great at SO's.

- Tomahawk


He fits perfectly then.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:06 PM ET
I really hope there isn't a guy I like available in the third round...I feel like someone is going to be around where they could've picked
- YuenglingJagr


I would really like a 3rd. If we trade down from one of our 1sts, maybe we can get a late 2nd and 3rd. Ducks, Leafs, there are a lot of teams. Maybe trade a 5th back.

(frank)ing Mrazek.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:08 PM ET
I like Miller, but not at 14. I can live with him at 19 if they’re set on taking a dman.
- Nucker101


Miller at 14 and then Berggren at 19 doe. That’d be okay with me.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 22 @ 3:09 PM ET
Bob Ryab O'Rielly
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
Miller at 14 and then Berggren at 19 doe. That’d be okay with me.
- Mononoke




Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
Bob Ryab O'Rielly
- Giroux_Is_God


Don’t cry.

Don’t raise your eye.

It’s only a Tim Hortons.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:10 PM ET
Bob Ryab O'Rielly
- Giroux_Is_God


Ryan O’Selke
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:14 PM ET
Bob Ryab O'Rielly FIST
- Giroux_Is_God


/fixed
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Re: K'Andre Miller

I really don't like reaching for him at 14 in this draft. Maybe he turns out to be the next Brent Burns... but probably not.

- Tomahawk


I compared him to our own Phil Myers before, but without that balls to the wall aggressive mentality. Maybe he can develop it more. I like Miller, but I think his upside is more 2-way top 4 than dynamic top pair guy. He’s not especially creative in the cycle or anything. His best offense is rush based. He’s often more a passenger at the point. Sometimes makes a sneaky move at the point, but it’s not a major part of his game either. He’s rather simple. He’s good, does a lot projectably well in the possession game, but the idea he’s an explosive offensive talent isn’t something I can endorse. Heck, the Flyers have a couple similarly sized ones already and they don’t even know how to tap into that skill set anyway.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:15 PM ET
Miller at 14 and then Berggren at 19 doe. That’d be okay with me.
- Mononoke

Do you still want Statsney at 50?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:19 PM ET
I compared him to our own Phil Myers before, but without that balls to the wall aggressive mentality. Maybe he can develop it more. I like Miller, but I think his upside is more 2-way top 4 than dynamic top pair guy. He’s not especially creative in the cycle or anything. His best offense is rush based. He’s often more a passenger at the point. Sometimes makes a sneaky move at the point, but it’s not a major part of his game either. He’s rather simple. He’s good, does a lot projectably well in the possession game, but the idea he’s an explosive offensive talent isn’t something I can endorse. Heck, the Flyers have a couple similarly sized ones already and they don’t even know how to tap into that skill set anyway.
- Mononoke

I love his ability to "move the puck"
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
Do you still want Statsney at 50?
- YuenglingJagr


I need you to look past the numbers lol. Those aren’t where guys will go. NHL teams typically only rank 90 players on their board. I think Stastney is a superbly underrated whip smart defenseman who will be a valuable NHL play-driver. He’s so underappreciated, though his u18s helped him some. But I’ve been talking him up for ages.

He likely goes mid-rounds. And yes, I’d take him there. Not at 50. If he goes closer to there, hey, can’t disagree on talent. He played plenty of RD too fwiw. I wish we had a 3rd rounder!
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 22 @ 3:21 PM ET
Dreger reporting Skinner about to be traded. I bet it’s the Penguins.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 22 @ 3:22 PM ET
I love his ability to "move the puck"
- YuenglingJagr


I can move the puck. I can't guarantee it goes where I intend or how quickly it gets there, but it sure does change from position A to position B.

Couple that with my ability to tie my own skates and get punched in the face, and I'm basically a right-handed version of Brandon Manning.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 22 @ 3:22 PM ET
I can move the puck. I can't guarantee it goes where I intend or how quickly it gets there, but it sure does change from position A to position B.

Couple that with my ability to tie my own skates and get punched in the face, and I'm basically a right-handed version of Brandon Manning.

- jmatchett383

Good to know.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:23 PM ET
I love his ability to "move the puck"
- YuenglingJagr


I’ve never heard of this phrase before. Can you provide more detail? Does he move it with his feet? Does he blow on it? Does he throw opponents at it? Does he move it into his own net like many of our esteemed Flyers defensemen? I need to know.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 22 @ 3:25 PM ET
I compared him to our own Phil Myers before, but without that balls to the wall aggressive mentality. Maybe he can develop it more. I like Miller, but I think his upside is more 2-way top 4 than dynamic top pair guy. He’s not especially creative in the cycle or anything. His best offense is rush based. He’s often more a passenger at the point. Sometimes makes a sneaky move at the point, but it’s not a major part of his game either. He’s rather simple. He’s good, does a lot projectably well in the possession game, but the idea he’s an explosive offensive talent isn’t something I can endorse. Heck, the Flyers have a couple similarly sized ones already and they don’t even know how to tap into that skill set anyway.
- Mononoke


Pretty much.

I'm not sure what's so 'safe' about him. He looks like a wildcard from every angle.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 22 @ 3:28 PM ET
I’ve never heard of this phrase before. Can you provide more detail? Does he move it with his feet? Does he blow on it? Does he throw opponents at it? Does he move it into his own net like many of our esteemed Flyers defensemen? I need to know.
- Mononoke

Well you have to classify him as offensive or defensive first. Offensive puck mover means he scores points BUT is not good at defense. Defensive means how far the puck bounces off of him when he does good defensey things like block shots and clears it to the redline

For video on what it looks like just google "Reel 2 Real - Move It"
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