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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 9:47 AM ET
Was reported the Skinner rejected several deals. No specifics beyond that.
- TheSabresTaco


It seems to me that Skinner/ROR as two of the main trade speculation pieces would have been discussed on the draft floor, and if it's what both teams wanted, it would be done. Plus, they just traded their best "+" in Lindholm. I don't see it as likely.

I have Blues as the most likely, if he's traded, with LA and CBJ as wild cards
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
Would anyone eat some salary on RoR to trade him to the jets when Stastny leaves them?
- Shadman306



It would be an ideal situation to trade him to the Jets and sign Stastny on July 1. Stastny would be a great 2C for a year until Mitts is ready, then he can plug in as a high-quality 3C. Bringing back Ehlers + for RoR would definitely help.
arousedpanda
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.01.2018

Jun 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
Why.

The PA and his agent would have fits about this.

The agent does the negotiating, not the player.

Why would a player who has already been offered 88MM guaranteed, take Significantly less.

- ImThatGuy


Does the agent get a cut of the endorsements? Or is dependent on the agent setting up the endorsement deal? I’m seeing this as when Stamkos met with Toronto with Canadian tire offering a boatload of money a year if he signed which undermines fair negotiating practices with other teams. But the PA would definitely have an issue with that
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 9:48 AM ET
Why would GMs care about salary vs bonuses though, its not their money. Pegula probably doesn't care. I can't picture botts bringing a good trade in and saying but we already paid the bonus cant do it.
- robz228


GMS wouldn't, Owners like Ottawa, Arizona, Carolina absolutely do.

A $6.5MM dollar difference is huge for those teams and their profit lines.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:50 AM ET
Was reported the Skinner rejected several deals. No specifics beyond that.
- TheSabresTaco


I read this...

Who the hell gave Jeff F'n Skinner a FULL NMC at 26!?!?!

I thought maybe it was a typo.



For all we know.. we had a sweet deal to get Hanifan and Skinner for ROR at the draft and Skinner blocked it so they did the Calgary deal instead.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:51 AM ET
It would be an ideal situation to trade him to the Jets and sign Stastny on July 1. Stastny would be a great 2C for a year until Mitts is ready, then he can plug in as a high-quality 3C. Bringing back Ehlers + for RoR would definitely help.
- sskkoo1


Stastny's agent told Dreger that he is looking for a 6 year deal.

You think we could get Ehlers and then + for ROR.... Man that's cute.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 9:53 AM ET
GMS wouldn't, Owners like Ottawa, Arizona, Carolina absolutely do.

A $6.5MM dollar difference is huge for those teams and their profit lines.

- ImThatGuy


Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Carolina and Florida the two poorest franchises in the NHL?

I thought I read that they operate in the red by big margins? That's why Carolina is the hottest name to be relocated to a Seattle or Quebec I thought?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:06 AM ET
"we're excited about the group of Jack, Sam and Rasmus Ristolainen" - GMJB

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
"we're excited about the group of Jack, Sam and Rasmus Ristolainen" - GMJB
- jcragcrumple


Where iS ROROROROROROOROROR?
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Carolina and Florida the two poorest franchises in the NHL?

I thought I read that they operate in the red by big margins? That's why Carolina is the hottest name to be relocated to a Seattle or Quebec I thought?

- JVince11


That could be right, but I cant find the stats to back it.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:07 AM ET
Stastny's agent told Dreger that he is looking for a 6 year deal.

You think we could get Ehlers and then + for ROR.... Man that's cute.

- JVince11



I wasn't sure of what Ehler's vaule is, I heard he's been slumping.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
no tickets for rookie camp scrimmage for non-season ticket holders? wtf? I travel in each year from Syracuse. not cool.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:08 AM ET
Where iS ROROROROROROOROROR?
- ImThatGuy


I was just trying to trigger Gerbe
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:10 AM ET
no tickets for rookie camp scrimmage for non-season ticket holders? wtf? I travel in each year from Syracuse. not cool.
- SyrSabreFan



Not surprising, the darn building was almost at capacity when we got Reinhart.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:13 AM ET
I wasn't sure of what Ehler's vaule is, I heard he's been slumping.
- sskkoo1


Back to back 64 and 60 pt seasons with 25 and 29 goals.

I LOVE Ehlers as a top tier LWer in the NHL. He is also BLAZING fast on the ice. I'm not sure of his defensive or 2 way game though.

I'd trade for him in a heart beat but I can't see WPG wanting to move him. He's starting a 7 year 6M AAV contract next season.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:14 AM ET
Not surprising, the darn building was almost at capacity when we got Reinhart.
- sskkoo1



yeah...so the KBC instead of HC. Charge 5-10? come on....
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:15 AM ET
He just said he doesnt have a # preference...there was a teaser video from the Sabres about his # and to watch the presser...really guys? come on.
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:16 AM ET
He just said he doesnt have a # preference...there was a teaser video from the Sabres about his # and to watch the presser...really guys? come on.
- SyrSabreFan


Edit: looks like they are going to show it now...
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:17 AM ET
If you were WPG... and had this as your top 6

Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Ehlers - Stastny/Little - Laine
Perreault - Little - Roslovic

Do they badly need a 2C bad enough to trade your young LWer?

Is Lemieux ready to be that 2LW as their top LW prospect in their system (at least from my understanding)?
SyrSabreFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Syracuse, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:18 AM ET
so...no Moulson?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:19 AM ET
Apparently there’s rumors flying around skinner said no to the blues

If that’s true I don’t see us haveing a chance :/
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:19 AM ET
If you were WPG... and had this as your top 6

Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Ehlers - Stastny/Little - Laine
Perreault - Little - Roslovic

Do they badly need a 2C bad enough to trade your young LWer?

Is Lemieux ready to be that 2LW as their top LW prospect in their system (at least from my understanding)?

- JVince11


Lemieux is a bust
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:22 AM ET
"we're excited about the group of Jack, Sam and Rasmus Ristolainen" - GMJB
- jcragcrumple


Good bye ROR
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:23 AM ET
If you were WPG... and had this as your top 6

Connor - Scheifele - Wheeler
Ehlers - Stastny/Little - Laine
Perreault - Little - Roslovic

Do they badly need a 2C bad enough to trade your young LWer?

Is Lemieux ready to be that 2LW as their top LW prospect in their system (at least from my understanding)?

- JVince11



On the other hand, do they REALLY want to give a 32 year old a 6 year deal for the money he's going to want? Woof.

Good player, but the decline is going to happen almost immediately. At least ROR is what, 4-5 years younger?

Then again, who's to question Chevy? He patiently built that team, basically.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:26 AM ET
I was just trying to trigger Gerbe
- jcragcrumple


Meh 1 out 3 will be gone or you can kiss the season goodbye next year
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