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Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:12 PM ET
If it’s 2 weeks from now, and no big change has been made (and no I don’t consider a not qualified Lehner a big change) I’ll be beyond annoyed.

But right now we’ve seen almost no movement

- sbroads24

Fair enough.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:16 PM ET
If it’s 2 weeks from now, and no big change has been made (and no I don’t consider a not qualified Lehner a big change) I’ll be beyond annoyed.

But right now we’ve seen almost no movement

- sbroads24


To be fair...
Only a few teams have really done anything

I wouldn’t be surprised if u end up annoyed though

I don’t think it’s a sure thing we are gonna make the big trade(s) you’re looking for
Cup Crazy '07
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 11.29.2006

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Anyone think we might make a play on Grabner?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:18 PM ET
Wow! And a conditional 1st, too! And that is lottery protected!

GMJB is on fire

- BeadyEyedDouche


Maybe he can trade that 1st for a sh!tty goalie?!
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:19 PM ET
Just because those are the trades that does not mean those are the only players available. Its ridiculous to think that. Botts can make a trade when he gets off of his ass and offers fair value to another team.
- sabresfan69


You don’t know that
Making a trade isn’t as way as u think...
otherwise, A LOT more would happen

It’s not a video game
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:20 PM ET
Anyone think we might make a play on Grabner?
- Cup Crazy '07


I think we’d at least make a call
Good skater & can score
Who knows if he’d consider us or not?
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:24 PM ET
To be fair...
Only a few teams have really done anything

I wouldn’t be surprised if u end up annoyed though

I don’t think it’s a sure thing we are gonna make the big trade(s) you’re looking for

- jdfitz77

That’s what I meant by we’ve seen almost no movement. I meant the whole NHL.

Once teams know where JT is going, or he’s “narrowed” his list to 2-3 teams we will see moves.

I truly think O’Reilly is going. Just too much smoke out there now. Someone will up the ante
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:29 PM ET
You don’t know that
Making a trade isn’t as way as u think...
otherwise, A LOT more would happen

It’s not a video game

- jdfitz77


Speaking of video games, after two cup wins, signed Karlsson and Doughty and Panarian. Not bad.... Palmari is first overall in 2019, and Dahlin 1st overall in 2018

https://twitter.com/lilro.../1011435591425282053?s=21
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:30 PM ET
Maybe he can trade that 1st for a sh!tty goalie?!
- jdfitz77

Maybe.

He isn't trading that pick. You don't trade 'conditional' picks, or at least, no team is going to trade FOR that one specifically until it's not conditional anymore.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:31 PM ET
That’s what I meant by we’ve seen almost no movement. I meant the whole NHL.

Once teams know where JT is going, or he’s “narrowed” his list to 2-3 teams we will see moves.

I truly think O’Reilly is going. Just too much smoke out there now. Someone will up the ante

- sbroads24


I do think team will up there offer,
especially if/when some of the teams interested in JT get involved

Idk that Botts is in a “take the best bid” frame of mind though?
Maybe he is
Or maybe he’s comfortable with keeping ROR?

I know u want him gone
But if O’Reilly is as highly thought of by Botts, as he seems to be in general...
then it’s a real possibility that he just keeps him

He might need to get blown away by an offer to move him
Maybe not...
but it’s a possibility imo

jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:34 PM ET
Maybe.

He isn't trading that pick. You don't trade 'conditional' picks, or at least, no team is going to trade FOR that one specifically until it's not conditional anymore.

- BeadyEyedDouche


U know what i meant dude

You’re awfully quick to criticize Botts,
while u keep making excuses for Murray

No... i haven’t been “wowed” by any moves Botts made
But he hasn’t made any big screwups like GMTM (who had many) either
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jun 25 @ 10:45 PM ET
Speaking of video games, after two cup wins, signed Karlsson and Doughty and Panarian. Not bad.... Palmari is first overall in 2019, and Dahlin 1st overall in 2018

https://twitter.com/lilro.../1011435591425282053?s=21

- Lilroot9


Risto, elite? Pssshh
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
U know what i meant dude

You’re awfully quick to criticize Botts,
while u keep making excuses for Murray

No... i haven’t been “wowed” by any moves Botts made
But he hasn’t made any big screwups like GMTM (who had many) either

- jdfitz77


I know I am jumping in late here, but they have/had different goals. Murray wanted to speed it up and win asap, while Botts is not rushing it and taking value in developing prospects (while inheriting some pretty bad contracts, compared to Murray).

What contacts were bad when Murray was here? Can't really think of much, maybe Myers (would not call that bad though).

Now how about for Botts: Ennis, Moulson, Bogo, Lerner?
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Jun 25 @ 10:49 PM ET
Risto, elite? Pssshh
- Wetbandit1


If the video game says so, lol
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:54 PM ET
I know I am jumping in late here, but they have/had different goals. Murray wanted to speed it up and win asap, while Botts is not rushing it and taking value in developing prospects (while inheriting some pretty bad contracts, compared to Murray).

What contacts were bad when Murray was here? Can't really think of much, maybe Myers (would not call that bad though).

Now how about for Botts: Ennis, Moulson, Bogo, Lerner?

- Lilroot9


True
Murray pretty much had all the assets to make whatever moves he wished
And made quite a few screwups that are still costing us

Botts doesn’t just get to go after it like GMTM did bc he has to clean up Murray’s mess first
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
Anyone think we might make a play on Grabner?
- Cup Crazy '07


God I hope so I want him on the 3rd line and the pk
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 25 @ 10:57 PM ET
True
Murray pretty much had all the assets to make whatever moves he wished
And made quite a few screwups that are still costing us

Botts doesn’t just get to go after it like GMTM did bc he has to clean up Murray’s mess first

- jdfitz77


count this as one of those times I agree with you
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 25 @ 11:00 PM ET
so who stinks?


who are keepers?



and who could you take it or leave it if on big roster this fall?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 25 @ 11:05 PM ET
so who stinks?


who are keepers?



and who could you take it or leave it if on big roster this fall?

- homiedclown


Casey, jack , Dahlin

That’s it for me
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:11 PM ET
True
Murray pretty much had all the assets to make whatever moves he wished
And made quite a few screwups that are still costing us

Botts doesn’t just get to go after it like GMTM did bc he has to clean up Murray’s mess first

- jdfitz77

Apparently Ennis's contract was so bad, Botts figured he should take on a worse one. Contracts can't be that bad. You claimed we still had room for Tavares and Karlsson. Besides, contracts aren't an excuse for Botts' ineptness of being able to work a trade.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:16 PM ET
Apparently Ennis's contract was so bad, Botts figured he should take on a worse one. Contracts can't be that bad. You claimed we still had room for Tavares and Karlsson. Besides, contracts aren't an excuse for Botts' ineptness of being able to work a trade.
- Hatboro_Swords

Worse one?
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Next year is gonna be 05/06 all over again, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 25 @ 11:17 PM ET
Worse one?
- sbroads24

Yes
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jun 25 @ 11:18 PM ET
Worse one?
- sbroads24


Schwing!

Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jun 25 @ 11:40 PM ET
He probably goes to Rochester for a year
So hopefully he can work on it there

Nylander-Asplund-Olofsson
could be a line down there for us

- jdfitz77


I think they will play Olofsson at Left Wing in both the AHL & NHL given that he is a Left Shot and our current weakness at Left Wing. Playing him on the Right Wing just makes no sense. We need as many Left Wingers as we can get.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 25 @ 11:43 PM ET
Yes
- Hatboro_Swords

I assume you mean Pominville.

Might wanna check Ennis season this past year.

Pominville doubled his production almost
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