Less than 10% of late rounders make it. If they can take these late round Euros, and take another couple years to develop them, maybe he hits on more of them, which benefits us.

I think the draft age is 2 years too young. They need to change it back to 20. There would be more success.
- Powerslave

Some of you are just missing the point all I'm saying is you can't ignore the CHL when it's 53% of the NHL that's all I'm saying

Unless they change it to 19 during the lockout 😂☹️
- Powerslave

That's actually a good point, but wasn't there still a draft in '05?

If there is a lockout though, that's actually a brilliant idea

"There's nothing to shy away from at all," Botterill insisted. "I just believe, especially with mid- to later-round picks, that if you only control their rights for two years, you have to make a quicker decision on them. You have a more extended period of four years for Europeans or players going to college, and it gives you more opportunity for them to develop."

Shut. The mother. fvck. up. you fvcking b!tch.
And next time you talk to your dad, tell him he needs to do a lot better job cleaning the bathrooms in the Sabres arena.
- seedy

Are you serious right now ? 2 drafts zero CHL when the NHL is 53% of that

And making fun of my dad ? Good one and very idiotic and childish from a person at your age shame

Some of you are just missing the point all I'm saying is you can't ignore the CHL when it's 53% of the NHL that's all I'm saying
- GERBE!!!75PTS

"I just believe, especially with mid- to later-round picks, that if you only control their rights for two years, you have to make a quicker decision on them."

Mid-to-later rounds. Your 53% number is coming primarily from the first and second rounds, where Botts would do it

"I just believe, especially with mid- to later-round picks, that if you only control their rights for two years, you have to make a quicker decision on them."

Mid-to-later rounds. Your 53% number is coming primarily from the first and second rounds, where Botts would do it
- jcragcrumple

No actually it's not

No actually it's not
- GERBE!!!75PTS

So the NHL is made up of 53% CHL players picked in the 3rd or later?

No actually it's not
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Go kill yourself.

So the NHL is made up of 53% CHL players picked in the 3rd or later?
- jcragcrumple

No I'm talking players from the CHL

525.5 via the CHL – 53.7%
289.5 via the NCAA – 29.6%
163 via Europe/Asia – 16.7%

Go kill yourself.
- seedy

You need some beer

"I just believe, especially with mid- to later-round picks, that if you only control their rights for two years, you have to make a quicker decision on them."

Mid-to-later rounds. Your 53% number is coming primarily from the first and second rounds, where Botts would do it
- jcragcrumple

How do you know he would do it? He hasn't done it with either of his drafts.

No I'm talking players from the CHL

525.5 via the CHL – 53.7%
289.5 via the NCAA – 29.6%
163 via Europe/Asia – 16.7%
- GERBE!!!75PTS

And of that percentage, I'm willing to be the overwhelming majority get drafted in the 1st or 2nd (where the overwhelming majority of all NHL players are taken).

Botts will draft them in the 1st or 2nd

I wish people would stop posting the year advantage for late rounders that's great

No one said don't draft Europeans just don't draft every single one and ignore the most important league that has produced Hall of Famers and All Stars and franchise players around the league

I wish people would stop posting the year advantage for late rounders that's great

No one said don't draft Europeans just don't draft every single one and ignore the most important league that is produced Hall of Famers and All Stars and franchise players around the league
- gerbe75pts

Good god dude, give it up already. (frank)

How do you know he would do it? He hasn't done it with either of his drafts.
- Hatboro_Swords

I don't know that he would, but the first rounders he's had so far were basically made for him

Mitts and Dahlin were no-brainers. Mitts was a possible top-5 pick that fell to 8, and Dahlin was, well, Dahlin. So we don't really have any 1st round evidence. This year he took an American ranked at #31 at #32.

Idk, "it's a bold strategy, cotton"

Found this while googling the FA Courting Period...
A memo from the NHL Office to clarify the Courting Period discussions...goes back to like 2015

"Please be advised that clubs are permitted to discuss the potential interest in as well as general parameters of a potential future contractual relationship with another club's pending RFA or UFA during the applicable interview periods. The clubs may not enter any agreements or make any binding offers, promises, ... oral or written concerning the terms of a potential SPC (standard players contract) with another club's pending RFA or UFA."

I guess they talk about more than the weather.
Interesting
- IonSabres

Very good. "General parameters" does not mean "we'll give you 7 years $56M with $7M every year as a bonus". It means "we'll make you our highest paid player for max term". They can not talk specifics. Hence the "general", and not "specific".

And of that percentage, I'm willing to be the overwhelming majority get drafted in the 1st or 2nd (where the overwhelming majority of all NHL players are taken).

Botts will draft them in the 1st or 2nd
- jcragcrumple

Looks like I have some research to do this debate will continue when I have more evidence

Good god dude, give it up already. (frank)
- TheHank

At least I'm not arguing about a 6th round pick

At least I'm not arguing about a 6th round pick
- gerbe75pts

You’re just spewing off at the mouth. Par for the course.

At least I'm not arguing about a 6th round pick
- gerbe75pts

Actually you are.

The nationality of the 6th round pick, which may be more esoteric and useless than just talking about a 6th on its own merits

People complaining about Botterill's draft, unreal.
- SABRES 89

Yeah, why'd he pick all those defensemen? We've got Dahlin. That's all we need, (frank) Risto, trade him for a forward! Bogo will be fine!

Actually you are.

The nationality of the 6th round pick, which may be more esoteric and useless than just talking about a 6th on its own merits
- jcragcrumple

I was talking about the leafs thing I could care less

Tavares is foolish to sign with the Leafs, if he does.
- SABRES 89

Lightning!!!
Kuch - JT - Stammer ... wow!

Would be tight, but they can jettison a couple of older guys to create space and be fine...even with Kuch's impending renegotiation..

Come on Stevie ... get at done!

And of that percentage, I'm willing to be the overwhelming majority get drafted in the 1st or 2nd (where the overwhelming majority of all NHL players are taken).

Botts will draft them in the 1st or 2nd
- jcragcrumple

Okay I just looked at drafts 2010 - 2017

And there is maybe a total of 20 players in the European leagues that have contributed to the NHL

Then you have over 400 players from the CHL contributing and that's in the later rounds

So

People complaining about Botterill's draft, unreal.
- SABRES 89

At this point we really shouldn't be surprised.

Dahlin alone was enough for an "A" grade.

The rest of was just icing on the cake.

As far as the 6th rounder......its a 6th rounder....WHO THE HELL CARES.

Okay I just looked at drafts 2010 - 2017

And there is maybe a total of 20 players in the European leagues that have contributed to the NHL

Then you have over 400 players from the CHL contributing and that's in the later rounds

So
- gerbe75pts

Links or charts, I have no idea what you're talking about. What did you look at and count 400 players from