TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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Okay I just looked at drafts 2010 - 2017
And there is maybe a total of 20 players in the European leagues that have contributed to the NHL
Then you have over 400 players from the CHL contributing and that's in the later rounds
So - gerbe75pts
So what |
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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Links or charts, I have no idea what you're talking about. What did you look at and count 400 players from - jcragcrumple
Probably a lunch menu |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Links or charts, I have no idea what you're talking about. What did you look at and count 400 players from - jcragcrumple
I just counted from each draft who's in the NHL contributing from the CHL to European leagues
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/index.html
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Probably a lunch menu - TheHank
K don't be a jelly donut |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I mentioned this earlier, but is there any way to do that without skipping two years of drafts?
Teams would never agree to that, because you'd have 2 seasons of teams finishing in last and getting nothing - jcragcrumple
You could do it over the course of a few years, move the birth month 6 months later. There's really no "fair" way to do it. Some teams will get shafted. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Any offer made that u know of? - rinaldo
No, it was mostly the Blues and the Habs, but there was no way the Habs were giving up the 3rd overall for ROR. That was never going to happen. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I just counted from each draft who's in the NHL contributing from the CHL to European leagues
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/index.html - gerbe75pts
So you just totally made those numbers up. There's no way you took that raw data and organized and compiled it from that source in 3 minutes to come up with "400 players taken in the 3rd or later"
You're throwing poop at the wall and seeing if someone will actually do your leg work to prove you wrong
If you're actually interested in this stuff, you should actually do the research. It would be very interesting to everyone here if you did a deep dive |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I just counted from each draft who's in the NHL contributing from the CHL to European leagues
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/index.html - gerbe75pts
I knew those years were suspect. 2009 alone has Hedman, OEL, Marcus Johansson, Silfverberg, Lehner, Panik, Orlov and Tatar. And that's just the first 2 rounds.
And you said "ignored the CHL" don't give me bullpoop about rounds. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Still didn't answer my question does that mean Bots will not want a CHL player in a package for Ryan O'Reilly?
Like if we trade him to the blues is he going to say no to Jordan Kyrou |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I knew those years were suspect. 2009 alone has Hedman, OEL, Marcus Johansson, Silfverberg, Lehner, Panik, Orlov and Tatar. And that's just the first 2 rounds. - Wetbandit1
We are talking about late rounds |
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feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL Joined: 02.01.2011
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No, it was mostly the Blues and the Habs, but there was no way the Habs were giving up the 3rd overall for ROR. That was never going to happen. - SABRES 89
If I was JB and Bergevin turned me down, my response: "Aite bro...Imma just sit here and watch the Habs burn." |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Still didn't answer my question does that mean Bots will not want a CHL player in a package for Ryan O'Reilly?
Like if we trade him to the blues is he going to say no to Jordan Kyrou - gerbe75pts
I highly doubt it.
If Rasmus Dahlin was a CHL’er or we were picking 2nd, this wouldn’t be a discussion |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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So you just totally made those numbers up. There's no way you took that raw data and organized and compiled it from that source in 3 minutes to come up with "400 players taken in the 3rd or later"
You're throwing poop at the wall and seeing if someone will actually do your leg work to prove you wrong
If you're actually interested in this stuff, you should actually do the research. It would be very interesting to everyone here if you did a deep dive - jcragcrumple
I counted about 40 players European
275 CHL |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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We are talking about late rounds - gerbe75pts
See edit. |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I highly doubt it.
If Rasmus Dahlin was a CHL’er or we were picking 2nd, this wouldn’t be a discussion - sbroads24
And what happens if you were drafting second and he took Brady tkachuk
I know we can't talk about this now because it will never ever happen lol
All I'm just saying is you can't ignore the CHL players in the draft that's all ..
He can draft all the Europeans he wants but get some CHL players to |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I counted about 40 players European
275 CHL - gerbe75pts
How many of each were drafted?
If 200 Euros, but 1,000 Canadians were drafted, kind of blows your point out of the water, doesn't it? And you're also not counting players who are European and only came to NA when they were 16. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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If I was JB and Bergevin turned me down, my response: "Aite bro...Imma just sit here and watch the Habs burn." - feetontheair22
I have no problem with him not trading the 3rd overall, he screwed up by letting Zadina go. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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I counted about 40 players European
275 CHL - gerbe75pts
I don't believe you did the leg work in 5 minutes, and I definitely don't trust your numbers |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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How many of each were drafted?
If 200 Euros, but 1,000 Canadians were drafted, kind of blows your point out of the water, doesn't it? And you're also not counting players who are European and only came to NA when they were 16. - Wetbandit1
I'm looking at the drafted players on the link I posted |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I don't believe you did the leg work in 5 minutes, and I definitely don't trust your numbers - jcragcrumple
You can look ..
Took my time |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I have no problem with him not trading the 3rd overall, he screwed up by letting Zadina go. - SABRES 89
Meh he did get a good center but z is the real deal and I'm kind of pissy we couldn't give ROR to the coyotes for their pick |
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TheHank
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Location: Yawn. Joined: 01.11.2017
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I'm looking at the drafted players on the link I posted - gerbe75pts
Honestly, I would rather just make a 6th round pick. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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How many of each were drafted?
If 200 Euros, but 1,000 Canadians were drafted, kind of blows your point out of the water, doesn't it? And you're also not counting players who are European and only came to NA when they were 16. - Wetbandit1
We're doing who is contributing to the NHL at some point |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Thanks for ending all the Star Wars films - GERBE!!!75PTS
Just the stand alone ones, but I know you didn't read past, "canceled Star Wars...". And they're not "ending" they're just stepping back and seeing what they need to do differently. Maybe one a year is too much. |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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You can look ..
Took my time - gerbe75pts
At 6:50, you said "I have to do some research"
At 6:57, you came back with fully compiled numbers over 8 years of drafts and determined 275 players were taken, and out of the 713 full-time, current NHLers, they were there.
My BS meter is off the charts |
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