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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:37 PM ET

Will Nault
@Fan960Nault
Some news from our pal @reporterchris today on @Sportsnet960.
Cam Ward to CHI on 1-year deal, ~$2.5M. Carter Hutton to BUF, details unknown. Jonathan Bernier to DET on a 3-year deal.

Sounds like Paul Statsny is going to remain in WPG but they do need to move a bit of money out.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:39 PM ET
Does Montreal even have a top end prospect, besides the kid they just drafted?
- Powerslave

no, but they have a guy that wears #67
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:42 PM ET
no, but they have a guy that wears #67
- SABRES 89



Would love to have him, but only at the right term. Pay the guy $10 million if he wants, as long as it's only for one year.
kritter65
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:42 PM ET
Prediction : ROR isn't traded and plays well for us the entire season. I don't care what all the "reports" say, I don't care about "where's there's smoke, there's fire" ... I'm saying he staying put.

BOOM.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:44 PM ET
Would love to have him, but only at the right term. Pay the guy $10 million if he wants, as long as it's only for one year.
- buffalofan19

I think he gets close to 7 or 7 a year
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:46 PM ET

Vasily Glotov
@Glotov97
Me and fellas went for a little tour at #BILLS facility, of course I had a chance to meet #shadymcdaddy
Kidding folks, acting like im looking at him rn #isthatyou #LETSGOBUFFALO #BILLSMAFIA
Wish I can meet him and learn something from him
Where are you man?! #chasing

Oh my hes that guy lol
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:48 PM ET
Dreger was just on the NHL Network and reiterated that the ask for ROR is a 1st, 2nd, and a top-end prospect.

If the Sabres make that bonus payment, that ask will go up. MTL will have no problem paying that though.

He also said that JT doesn't want this poop to drag on... so he should be signed by Sunday.


Also, if JT doesn't sign with the NYI by Saturday at midnight, he can only get a max 7 year deal from them.

No state tax in FL is also a huge plus in negotiating for the TBL, btw.

- BareMetal

also said trading ror is 50/50
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:49 PM ET
also said trading ror is 50/50
- homiedclown



If he's here by end of day July 2, he's here for the season.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:54 PM ET
also said trading ror is 50/50
- homiedclown


Sounds just like the report from the draft 50/50
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 8:55 PM ET
There’s way to many rumors going on.. I’m saying he’s gone
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 28 @ 8:56 PM ET
If he's here by end of day July 2, he's here for the season.
- buffalofan19



Honestly if we pay the bonus, unless we are blown away like a 1st and Thomas I rather just keep him this year. His value will pretty much stay the same next offseason. Year older but 1 less year off big contract
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
might be a stupid question


what prevents the leafs from signing JT to a 1 year 12 million dollar contract


and then he signs a 7 year extension the next day?



asking for a friend
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:57 PM ET
There’s way to many rumors going on.. I’m saying he’s gone
- gerbe75pts

probably
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:00 PM ET
Prediction : ROR isn't traded and plays well for us the entire season. I don't care what all the "reports" say, I don't care about "where's there's smoke, there's fire" ... I'm saying he staying put.

BOOM.

- kritter65



Wrong. 😉
Shadman306
Joined: 06.11.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:00 PM ET
might be a stupid question


what prevents the leafs from signing JT to a 1 year 12 million dollar contract


and then he signs a 7 year extension the next day?



asking for a friend

- homiedclown


I think if he signs with the leafs, this is what pushes them over the edge as winners.

I have it probably 80% he goes to leafs, and 10% each for the sharks and isles.

As much as I hate the leafs it could give us opportunity to poach some talent from them.

Maybe Matthews hates Babcock and wants to party with eichel and score 40 with him like the all star game. (And just like my nhl lineup)
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 28 @ 9:09 PM ET
might be a stupid question


what prevents the leafs from signing JT to a 1 year 12 million dollar contract


and then he signs a 7 year extension the next day?



asking for a friend

- homiedclown


The wrath of the league office. They'd consider it circumvention, and we've seen how they penalize that.
feetontheair22
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa doesn't suck, FL
Joined: 02.01.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:10 PM ET
The wrath of the league office. They'd consider it circumvention, and we've seen how they penalize that.
- Lunaion


Lol if its the Sabres they crack down...but with the Leafs....they'd prolly just demand some canadian tire money as a bribe.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 28 @ 9:11 PM ET
Honestly if we pay the bonus, unless we are blown away like a 1st and Thomas I rather just keep him this year. His value will pretty much stay the same next offseason. Year older but 1 less year off big contract
- Fattony1187


and next year it's 'only' a $5m bonus... it's time to move him
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
No overpayment, keep O’Reilly.

Trade bustlander, Sanjose 1st and a prospect with potential like Cliff Pu and bailey for Skinner. (I don’t see why not, that’s our asking for O’Reilly who’s more valuable. A 1st, top prospect and another piece)

skinner/jack/okposo
Sheary/O’Reilly/ Reinhart
Wilson/mitts/pommer
girgs/Rodriguez/Baptiste

Dahlin/Risto
Scandella/bogo
McCabe/Nelson

Better goalie.

That’s a fringe playoff team. If it’s not we have a bigger problem with jack not being who we thought he was.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 9:15 PM ET
and next year it's 'only' a $5m bonus... it's time to move him
- Lunaion


He gets another bonus ?
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
and next year it's 'only' a $5m bonus... it's time to move him
- Lunaion



All the bonus is, is cash up front instead of whole year. Does not make a difference to cap if we want to keep him. Tpegs has plenty of cash up front.
Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jun 28 @ 9:16 PM ET
Dreger was just on the NHL Network and reiterated that the ask for ROR is a 1st, 2nd, and a top-end prospect.

If the Sabres make that bonus payment, that ask will go up. MTL will have no problem paying that though.

He also said that JT doesn't want this poop to drag on... so he should be signed by Sunday.


Also, if JT doesn't sign with the NYI by Saturday at midnight, he can only get a max 7 year deal from them.

No state tax in FL is also a huge plus in negotiating for the TBL, btw.

- BareMetal


Actually, he will make the exact same amount of money in Dallas as he would Tampa after taxes as well according to this: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tavares-calculator
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 28 @ 9:17 PM ET
No overpayment, keep O’Reilly.

Trade bustlander, Sanjose 1st and a prospect with potential like Cliff Pu and bailey for Skinner. (I don’t see why not, that’s our asking for O’Reilly who’s more valuable. A 1st, top prospect and another piece)

skinner/jack/okposo
Sheary/O’Reilly/ Reinhart
Wilson/mitts/pommer
girgs/Rodriguez/Baptiste

Dahlin/Risto
Scandella/bogo
McCabe/Nelson

Better goalie.

That’s a fringe playoff team. If it’s not we have a bigger problem with jack not being who we thought he was.

- Fattony1187


That 3rd line is gross bro come on
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 28 @ 9:19 PM ET
All the bonus is, is cash up front instead of whole year. Does not make a difference to cap if we want to keep him. Tpegs has plenty of cash up front.
- Fattony1187


I know this, but you're also seeing that it's an issue in trading him.
Tsyolin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: @TsyolinSounds, Rochester, NY
Joined: 02.19.2013

Jun 28 @ 9:22 PM ET
If the Blues aren't willing to fork up Parayko or Thomas then there's no trade to be had. I'd much rather keep ROR then get back anything less.
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