Wanna blog? Start your own hockey blog with My HockeyBuzz. Register for free today!
 
Forums :: Blog World :: Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: UFAs, Prospects, Straschnitzki, Bundy & Bill and More
Author Message
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
As for ability... Stastny is better.

We don't know the back story, whether it was Filppula, Hextall or mutual decision to part ways. Whether this was before or after targeting Stastny.

Hextall is trying to #1 improve the team and #2 without causing too much issues with the cap (including if the player sucks in the future and we're still playing him). Stastny fits the bill for #1.

If Hextall tried to resign Filp? and it was a no go. Then, you really can't compare a Filp deal versus a Stastny deal... If Filp is gone, Hextall has to fill the spot. Stastny might be the best option out there... Besides, the Stastny deal is not on the table yet, so you can't determine the #2 financials...

- leon neon


I'm assuming that the Filppula departure was mostly mutual, probably more so on the Flyers' part based of Hexy's proclamation that bringing him back is not off the table.

And yes, I can't say for sure the contract demands on each player, but I'm just basing it off of their age and history to date with respect to the other UFA's out there.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:38 PM ET
<=== Joined 2009
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 1:39 PM ET
You almost have to have that sort of confidence to play that position.
- johndewar

breaking: Carter Hart is an entitled wiener
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:40 PM ET
I don’t think Stastny will sign here even though I’d like to see it. Winnipeg still seems like the most likely destination.
- Sinisalo4vr



great, then we can trade for who they cant sign
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:42 PM ET
This is a thoughtful and logical post. You must be new.
- BiggE



I find any post with Stastny and Flip in it, is illogical
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:45 PM ET
Don’t comment as much as read on this forum, but I have to say, every time I hear Laughton as 3c, I want to vomit. Guy just hasn’t shown much at all so far. I keep thinking he might be a late bloomer, but it keeps getting later. Find or trade for a better 3c.....please!
- Hokeeguy9


I'm waiting for Pannaccio's annual, "This is Laughton's make or break year," article.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm assuming that the Filppula departure was mostly mutual, probably more so on the Flyers' part based of Hexy's proclamation that bringing him back is not off the table.

And yes, I can't say for sure the contract demands on each player, but I'm just basing it off of their age and history to date with respect to the other UFA's out there.

- jmatchett383


I agree... Hextall probably tried, the demand was too great. And, he thinks he can bring in Stastny, at an equal rate.

Hextall might be in a pickle with the UFA. A lot are demanding large numbers, long terms, the UFA get to pick where they go. Besides the money, most UFA want a shot at the cup. I don't think many UFA are picking the Flyers to be in the race for the cup next year (maybe in a few years). This probably bumps them off most lists, unless the guy is young enough to partake in the final years of the contract.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
I'm waiting for Pannaccio's annual, "This is Laughton's make or break year," article.
- jmatchett383


I feel like Laughton was one of our best players in the series against Pittsburgh. Sometimes a thing like that helps a player to get confidence to take the next step.

I wouldn't bank on him being the 3C, but neither would I dismiss him out of hand. He may step up and take the job in camp.
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:49 PM ET
I find any post with Stastny and Flip in it, is illogical
- wcorvette


Ek, posted Flyers and Bozak... Stastney deal fell-through... Continue same conversation with Filppula compare to Bozak.
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jun 29 @ 1:51 PM ET
Off topic, and sorry as it is bit of a rookie question...but...

When an AHL player signs an extension like Morin did for 700K a year, does he actually get paid that or does he make a salary based on his AHL contract if he ends up playing in the minors? What happens if he is not in the league yet and is on an intial contract and not even in North America...

Sorry for the question, just could not find a straight answer online..
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
This is a thoughtful and logical post. You must be new.
- BiggE


Don't worry he'll be taught the way it is around here soon enough. Ignore that...make it they way it is now...
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
Pro Hockey Rumors has an article today which lists the top 50 UFA’s with predictions on where they will sign and for how much. None are predicted to be signed by the Flyers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 1:53 PM ET
Off topic, and sorry as it is bit of a rookie question...but...

When an AHL player signs an extension like Morin did for 700K a year, does he actually get paid that or does he make a salary based on his AHL contract if he ends up playing in the minors? What happens if he is not in the league yet and is on an intial contract and not even in North America...

Sorry for the question, just could not find a straight answer online..

- JW98FlyerFan


It depends.

If a player signs a one-way deal, he gets paid the same amount no matters if he plays in the NHL or AHL.

If the player signs a two-way deal, he makes much more (like 10x) in the NHL as opposed to the AHL.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 1:54 PM ET
Off topic, and sorry as it is bit of a rookie question...but...

When an AHL player signs an extension like Morin did for 700K a year, does he actually get paid that or does he make a salary based on his AHL contract if he ends up playing in the minors? What happens if he is not in the league yet and is on an intial contract and not even in North America...

Sorry for the question, just could not find a straight answer online..

- JW98FlyerFan

It is a 1 way deal so he gets paid full NHL salary regardless of whether he is in the NHL or AHL. He is subject to waivers though, so he most likely stays in the NHL (outside of 2 week conditioning stint)
leon neon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: GA
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:54 PM ET
AHL player signs an extension like Morin did for 700K a year, does he actually get paid that..
- JW98FlyerFan


No, the Government taxes the hell out of it...

(Sorry, no, I don't know, good question)
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 1:58 PM ET
https://twitter.com/JHall...tatus/1012388620286808064

willing to do whatever it takes to make the Flyers this fall
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:04 PM ET
It depends.

If a player signs a one-way deal, he gets paid the same amount no matters if he plays in the NHL or AHL.

If the player signs a two-way deal, he makes much more (like 10x) in the NHL as opposed to the AHL.

- jmatchett383


Thanks, and thanks YuenglingJagr as well.

Is there a site that lists players that are on a 2 way contract? I normally look at CapFriendly, but they Flyers don't have any 2 way contracts listed (unless they don't have any at this time...)
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
there is zero reason why Frost should not be on the team directly out of camp
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
Thanks, and thanks YuenglingJagr as well.

Is there a site that lists players that are on a 2 way contract? I normally look at CapFriendly, but they Flyers don't have any 2 way contracts listed (unless they don't have any at this time...)

- JW98FlyerFan

All ELC's are two-way
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 2:10 PM ET
there is zero reason why Frost should not be on the team directly out of camp
- Crimsoninja

What if he gets the squirts???
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 2:11 PM ET
What if he gets the squirts???
- hereticpride

What if he IS the squirts....
JW98FlyerFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.02.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
All ELC's are two-way
- YuenglingJagr


Thanks!
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
This thread is becoming really ... poopty
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:16 PM ET
Don’t comment as much as read on this forum, but I have to say, every time I hear Laughton as 3c, I want to vomit. Guy just hasn’t shown much at all so far. I keep thinking he might be a late bloomer, but it keeps getting later. Find or trade for a better 3c.....please!
- Hokeeguy9


He's shown he can be good possession center even with less than stellar wings, and that he can get 20 points with extremely limited ice time, and that he can be an effective PKer with the speed to disrupt the opposition's powerplay. He also probably has the best wrist shot on the team.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
Thanks, and thanks YuenglingJagr as well.

Is there a site that lists players that are on a 2 way contract? I normally look at CapFriendly, but they Flyers don't have any 2 way contracts listed (unless they don't have any at this time...)

- JW98FlyerFan


If you go to CapFriendly and click on the player, look at the AHL salary vs. NHL salary. If they are different, then he is on a 2-way deal. If they are the same, it is a 1-way deal.

Morin's new contract shows a $0 AHL salary, which may be because he's injured, or CapFriendly just doesn't have all of the details.
Page: Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9  Next