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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 29 @ 2:41 PM ET
Gotcha
I just posted the difference

Obviously doesn’t count an increase in endorsements that he’d have gotten in Toronto though

- jdfitz77

he would have made 4 mil per year in endorsements in toronto, easily


IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:44 PM ET
Kucherov - Tavares - Stammer
spells
STANLEY CUP (S)
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:45 PM ET
he took 2 mil less to stay in tampa where there is no state tax


vs signing with leafs or sabres

- homiedclown


It wasn’t 2mil less though in takehome though
U gotta account for taxes
If the leafs were only offering 10.5mil,
then he made more per year after taxes staying on Tampa

11.5mil in Toronto & 8.5mil in Tampa are basically equal
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:51 PM ET
Good article on The Athletic on ways around this that actual negates much of the Tax Advantage of Florida and other no income tax states.
- IonSabres


Do u think The Athletic is worth it?
I don’t subscribe
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:51 PM ET
It wasn’t 2mil less though
U gotta account for taxes
If the leafs were only offering 10.5mil,
then he made more per year after taxes staying on Tampa

11.5mil in Toronto & 8.5mil in Tampa are basically equal

- jdfitz77



how are you figuring this?
I am truly interested...
I believe it is pretty complicted since in the US now (unless chnaged recently) players are taxed on where they play...so Florida's benefit is on a ltille more than half the games based on 42 home games and 2 or 3 games in Sunrise playing against Panthers. Then Canadian games are taxed by Canada.
If this still holds, it pretty long calculation to arrive at the actual tax benefits
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:53 PM ET
how are you figuring this?
I am truly interested...
I believe it is pretty complicted since in the US now (unless chnaged recently) players are taxed on where they play...so Florida's benefit is on a ltille more than half the games based on 42 home games and 2 or 3 games in Sunrise playing against Panthers. Then Canadian games are taxed by Canada.
If this still holds, it pretty long calculation to arrive at the actual tax benefits

- IonSabres


TSN has a “Tavares Calculator”

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/tavares-calculator

I’m not sure how in depth their calculations go
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Do u think The Athletic is worth it?
I don’t subscribe

- jdfitz77



It's been pretty good so far for me
ManitouSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.11.2018

Jun 29 @ 2:54 PM ET
Do u think The Athletic is worth it?
I don’t subscribe

- jdfitz77


Yes, worth it but I also was offered a 50% deal for the year. But the writers are top notch, no reason to really visit BSN now except for local news.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 29 @ 2:55 PM ET
Do u think The Athletic is worth it?
I don’t subscribe

- jdfitz77



so far I do like it, but only been a week...They had a special 50% off offer a bit ago (that "special offer" probably applies to everyone 10 times a day, lol)
It has some good articles...yes, and you can customize the feed so you aren't blasted with 3,000 articles of useless importance.

I joined primarily to get content from Vogle and Baker, since I dumped BEN subscription...and to get other articles of interest to me down here in Sarasota (Lightning and Bucs).
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jun 29 @ 2:56 PM ET
he would have made 4 mil per year in endorsements in toronto, easily
- homiedclown

no
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:57 PM ET
Yes, worth it but I also was offered a 50% deal for the year. But the writers are top notch, no reason to really visit BSN now except for local news.
- ManitouSabres


I never go to BfloNews anyways, lol
Thanks for the input though!
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jun 29 @ 2:58 PM ET
how are you figuring this?
I am truly interested...
I believe it is pretty complicted since in the US now (unless chnaged recently) players are taxed on where they play...so Florida's benefit is on a ltille more than half the games based on 42 home games and 2 or 3 games in Sunrise playing against Panthers. Then Canadian games are taxed by Canada.
If this still holds, it pretty long calculation to arrive at the actual tax benefits

- IonSabres


TSN and cap friendly have a simple calculator, based on national, state, and city taxes. You're right though, players also have to pay taxes in the city/state/country they play away games, which is complicated to calculate.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 2:58 PM ET
he would have made 4 mil per year in endorsements in toronto, easily
- homiedclown


Yeah, that’s probably true
Heavily taxed though
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 2:58 PM ET
"They have a great young leader in Jack Eichel, but the team was in a rebuild mode."

https://www.theplayerstri...kane-san-jose-sharks-nhl/


Where is ROR mentioned?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:01 PM ET
Kucherov - Tavares - Stammer
spells
STANLEY CUP (S)

- IonSabres


They gotta move salary out this year to make it work
Then some next year to sign Kucherov

Hedman is their only defenseman signed long term, so they’ll have to figure that out too

They’ll be crazy tough to beat though
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:01 PM ET
He should try sweet potato pizza
- gerbe75pts


Not today, Satan.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
"They have a great young leader in Jack Eichel, but the team was in a rebuild mode."

https://www.theplayerstri...kane-san-jose-sharks-nhl/


Where is ROR mentioned?

- Stripes77

saw that...good catch
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:02 PM ET
so far I do like it, but only been a week...They had a special 50% off offer a bit ago (that "special offer" probably applies to everyone 10 times a day, lol)
It has some good articles...yes, and you can customize the feed so you aren't blasted with 3,000 articles of useless importance.

I joined primarily to get content from Vogle and Baker, since I dumped BEN subscription...and to get other articles of interest to me down here in Sarasota (Lightning and Bucs).

- IonSabres


Is it any better than Bleacher Report,
which is free
ManitouSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.11.2018

Jun 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
I never go to BfloNews anyways, lol
Thanks for the input though!

- jdfitz77


Once the BSN site started giving my phone cancer whenever I'd visit that was the last straw
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:03 PM ET
Is it any better than Bleacher Report,
which is free

- jdfitz77



Yes, much better
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:04 PM ET
TSN and cap friendly have a simple calculator, based on national, state, and city taxes. You're right though, players also have to pay taxes in the city/state/country they play away games, which is complicated to calculate.
- Lunaion


It’s probably in the ballpark though
Just gives u an idea of how 8.5mil in Tampa is roughly the same as 11.5mil in Toronto
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:04 PM ET
Yes, much better
- Stripes77

their lineup of writers is impressive
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
Once the BSN site started giving my phone cancer whenever I'd visit that was the last straw
- ManitouSabres


I haven’t read the Bflo news in forever
It’s just noise

Anything worth reading from there is usually posted on here
So I’ll peep an article here & there
But even the stuff posted here from the BfloNews isn’t ever mind blowing
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
Yes, much better
- Stripes77


Word
Thanks sir!
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:07 PM ET
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