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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:52 AM ET
My statement had nothing to do with Boeser or Konecny.

And i know where those prospects where selected in the draft, but they have nothing to do with botts giving lehner 4 million dollars.

- Mentalorgasm5

??

Didn’t Lehner refuse his QO and go to arb?
Slump Buster
Buffalo Sabres
Location: GM's are graded based on moves made before June 28th, apparently., NY
Joined: 10.24.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
No, he could not. Lehner elected for salary arbitration.
- sabresfan69


In theory we could have walked away from him, couldn't we? I am not arguing that we should have - I thought that teams have the rights to move on (like we did with Tim Kennedity)
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:53 AM ET
He could have walked away before for that. Aka scott wilson.

But anyways its great we have a real GM who didnt pay lehner 4 million dollars...

...oh wait.

- Mentalorgasm5



Walk away before seeing him play for 1 year without a salary cap problem where Lehner made 3.15 and elected for salary arbitration.

Walk away with no starting goalie and then pay assets to find a starting goalie.

Sorry but your agenda is showing.

You would be the same person crying we have no goalie and how stupid it was to walk away from Lehner.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
He could have gave hin a QA
It wss a bad move, plain and simple. I like for the most part what botts, just found it funny that someone praised botts for hutton and ingored the face he gave lehner 4 million.

- Mentalorgasm5



He did give him a qualifying offer. Lehner made $3.15 million the year prior due to bonuses. Pay attention.

His cap hit was only $2.25 but actual cash is involved with qualifying offers.

20% raise would give him $3.75. Botts gave him $4 million for a year. A $250,000 raise above what would have been his qualifying offer.

Next...
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:54 AM ET
He could have gave hin a QA
It wss a bad move, plain and simple. I like for the most part what botts, just found it funny that someone praised botts for hutton and ingored the face he gave lehner 4 million.

- Mentalorgasm5


Lehner was above average statistically the previous season and $4m was something like the 25th highest paid goalie in the league. Hard to argue that wasn't a reasonable deal, and frankly, he was very smart to only give a 1 year deal.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
He did give him a qualifying offer. Lehner made $3.15 million the year prior due to bonuses. Pay attention.

His cap hit was only $2.25 but actual cash is involved with qualifying offers.

20% raise would give him $3.75. Botts gave him $4 million for a year. A $250,000 raise above what would have been his qualifying offer.

Next...

- Stripes77


He doesn't care. He has his hate on for Botts and the blinders are full on.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
??

Didn’t Lehner refuse his QO and go to arb?

- sbroads24



Correct.

Botterill ended up giving him a quarter of a million more than his qualifying offer before arbitration to avoid it.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:55 AM ET
Who cares we got the first overall pick because of Lehner

The end

Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Walk away before seeing him play for 1 year without a salary cap problem where Lehner made 3.15 and elected for salary arbitration.

Walk away with no starting goalie and then pay assets to find a starting goalie.

Sorry but your agenda is showing.

- sabresfan69

Lehner didnt make 3.15. He made 2.25.

You mean walk away with no starting goalie, and pay assests to find a starting, you mean exactly what botts had to do this year??

I have no agenda. Just pointing out the irony of " we finally have a real GM," when it is the exact same GM that gave Lehner 4 million.

But keep posting your Lols and made up facts.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Who cares we got the first overall pick because of Lehner

The end

- gerbe75pts


And now the beginning
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:56 AM ET
Who cares we got the first overall pick because of Lehner

The end

- gerbe75pts

Thats a good way of looking at it.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
He doesn't care. He has his hate on for Botts and the blinders are full on.
- sabresfan69

As I already mentioned, i for the most part have liked what Botts has done.

But righto 69
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
He could have walked away before for that. Aka scott wilson.

But anyways its great we have a real GM who didnt pay lehner 4 million dollars...

...oh wait.

- Mentalorgasm5


So he should have just let lehner walk without seeing him play first hand?
That doesn't make any sense.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Who cares we got the first overall pick because of Lehner

The end

- gerbe75pts

I thought it was because of the music played in the arena?
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Lehner didnt make 3.15. He made 2.25.

You mean walk away with no starting goalie, and pay assests to find a starting, you mean exactly what botts had to do this year??

I have no agenda. Just pointing out the irony of " we finally have a real GM," when it is the exact same GM that gave Lehner 4 million.

But keep posting your Lols and made up facts.

- Mentalorgasm5

TRying not to feed the troll
https://www.diebytheblade...falo-sabres-robin-lehner-johan-larsson-to-file-for-arbitration

Both Robin Lehner and Johan Larsson will be heading to salary arbitration, which will take place sometime in the next few weeks. Both Lehner and Larsson were given qualifying offers that were essentially the same salary they made last year - $3.15 million for Lehner and $997,500 for Larsson


You are fake news.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:57 AM ET
Who cares we got the first overall pick because of Lehner

The end

- gerbe75pts


I like short stories, especially this one. 👍
turbo044
Joined: 02.18.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
He doesn't care. He has his hate on for Botts and the blinders are full on.
- sabresfan69


This, plus he wanted a full year to see what lehner was about. Also, correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm not) but we had no cap problem last year, so who cares what he paid lehner. Irrevelent argument.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Jul 1 @ 10:58 AM ET
Lehner didnt make 3.15. He made 2.25.

You mean walk away with no starting goalie, and pay assests to find a starting, you mean exactly what botts had to do this year??

I have no agenda. Just pointing out the irony of " we finally have a real GM," when it is the exact same GM that gave Lehner 4 million.

But keep posting your Lols and made up facts.

- Mentalorgasm5



You’re wrong his cap hit was $2.25 but he made $3.15

Let it go you’re wrong and way off on this.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
You’re wrong his cap hit was $2.25 but he made $3.15

Let it go you’re wrong and way off on this.

- Stripes77

Everyone is wrong but him.
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

Jul 1 @ 10:59 AM ET
Lehner didnt make 3.15. He made 2.25.

You mean walk away with no starting goalie, and pay assests to find a starting, you mean exactly what botts had to do this year??

I have no agenda. Just pointing out the irony of " we finally have a real GM," when it is the exact same GM that gave Lehner 4 million.

But keep posting your Lols and made up facts.

- Mentalorgasm5


When did he do this? Hutton cost nothing but money to acquire...
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
Lehner didnt make 3.15. He made 2.25.

You mean walk away with no starting goalie, and pay assests to find a starting, you mean exactly what botts had to do this year??

I have no agenda. Just pointing out the irony of " we finally have a real GM," when it is the exact same GM that gave Lehner 4 million.

But keep posting your Lols and made up facts.

- Mentalorgasm5


He salary has 3.15m the final season, so his QO had to be a minimum of that. No raise was required at that salary level. Lehner refused.

$4m was a fair deal.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:00 AM ET
When did he do this? Hutton cost nothing but money to acquire...
- Sabres1523

I am making up fake facts though....Lets move on. 1 hour to go!
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:02 AM ET
I thought it was because of the music played in the arena?
- jochfr


That’s also part of it
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
Gun to head if JT ends up with the leafs
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 11:04 AM ET
1 hour to go seems like the sabres could be done already....
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