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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:10 AM ET
Kane is much better and like the other Kane I’d rather have that one instead
- 2Real


OK
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:38 AM ET
LOL

You remembered your login!

- AllInForFlyers

Yea, surprised it hasn’t been hacked by now.
I’m on twitter a lot, have a podcast & the negative nellies were starting to really bring me down. There were people writing a whole narrative for this off season in May and it read like Long Days Journey into Night or something else really depressing.
Corporate_hater
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.25.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:45 AM ET
Not a fan of retreads. 2nd stints rarely work out. Let the grass stay greener on the other side on this specific player. I would have liked some new blood. Plus, the term and $ per year is too high for JVR. I do not think he will put up similar numbers wearing orange and black.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:47 AM ET
Not a fan of retreads. 2nd stints rarely work out. Let the grass stay greener on the other side on this specific player. I would have liked some new blood. Plus, the term and $ per year is too high for JVR. I do not think he will put up similar numbers wearing orange and black.
- Corporate_hater

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:49 AM ET
Wow
FlyerFan16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CT
Joined: 09.21.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:52 AM ET

- Nucker101

I was going to say Bernie Parent but this works too.
Corporate_hater
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 10.25.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:53 AM ET

- Nucker101



Talking about Hockey here son, specifically the Flyers. Whenever a player flourishes somewhere else and we bring them back expecting the same result...rarely/never pans out.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 12:56 AM ET
Trying to sleep and wondering why the phone keeps going off.

Return of the Dyke!!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 12:59 AM ET
Trying to sleep and wondering why the phone keeps going off.

Return of the Dyke!!

- Pelle31Forever

ugh i have no idea why anyone would be excited except to make up for Luke Schenn
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:01 AM ET

- Nucker101

Ayyyoooo
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:03 AM ET
ugh i have no idea why anyone would be excited except to make up for Luke Schenn
- 2Real


This team desperately needed secondary scoring. Scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in this league, so if that's all this guy does while he's here, I'm ok with it. Takes pressure off a Linblom or someone of that nature trying to pot 25-30 every season.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:04 AM ET
This team desperately needed secondary scoring. Scoring goals is the hardest thing to do in this league, so if that's all this guy does while he's here, I'm ok with it. Takes pressure off a Linblom or someone of that nature trying to pot 25-30 every season.
- Pelle31Forever

but jVR giveth and JVR taketh away
I want to know his linemates
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jul 1 @ 1:05 AM ET
Plus putting him on a line with a playmaker like Voracek, I'm good with it.

If we want to complain about the contract, there's merit to that.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:07 AM ET
but jVR giveth and JVR taketh away
I want to know his linemates

- 2Real

pavelski and kane

#50in50
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jul 1 @ 1:09 AM ET
Plus putting him on a line with a playmaker like Voracek, I'm good with it.

If we want to complain about the contract, there's merit to that.

- Pelle31Forever

Yeah. This is a move that will help the on ice product without question. Hardest thing in this league is to score goals and you just added thirty a year to the roster. I’d say this means Simmonds is gone. Could roll with him or move him for assets. Seven is a bit high but that’s the price for keeping the years low.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:15 AM ET
pavelski and kane

#50in50

- Nucker101

bro that's big if true
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:16 AM ET
Plus putting him on a line with a playmaker like Voracek, I'm good with it.

If we want to complain about the contract, there's merit to that.

- Pelle31Forever

voracek was a nutcase on defense at times last year
JVR has been known to be a liability on D
that is not a good combo
maybe they'd be good together on the PP
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:19 AM ET
So Hextall previously said he would like an extension for simmonds. I’m curious if this signing means negotiations couldn’t reach an agreement with Simmonds or they mutually agreed to wait it out for the year.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:22 AM ET
I think the biggest question no one has brought up that I noticed is what the heck number is he going to wear....
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:25 AM ET
Honestly I don’t think you get JVR without playing him with Giroux again. Either Giroux moves back to center or to his natural RW position.

And no one has discussed how much better this makes it PP2.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:46 AM ET
Honestly I don’t think you get JVR without playing him with Giroux again. Either Giroux moves back to center or to his natural RW position.

And no one has discussed how much better this makes it PP2.

- youarewrong

maybe they'd be good together on the PP
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:55 AM ET
People complain that Hexy needs to do something to help this team this year well he has..

It's not a Tavares level move but if that was avail I will take this. The Flyers now have 2 lines that , on paper, should put up offense while allowing young players to develop.

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jul 1 @ 1:56 AM ET
People complain that Hexy needs to do something to help this team this year well he has..

It's not a Tavares level move but if that was avail I will take this. The Flyers now have 2 lines that , on paper, should put up offense while allowing young players to develop.

- opeth_pa

if you say so
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jul 1 @ 1:56 AM ET
JVR has a goals/60 at 5v5 of 1.3 goals/60 the last 2 years (p/60 of 2.1). Also, +3-4% in relCF% and relxGF% (sheltered as he is but still very strong).

Simmonds has a points/60 of 1.2 over the same span and is -2 to 3% in his respective underlying stats.

That's......something.

JVR also only averaged 12+ minutes ES last season and hit 36 goals. If you're willing to live with his flaws and insulate him (we have the defensive forwards), increasing his 5v5 minutes to real top 6 could unearth even more scoring potential. For perspective, Simmonds averaged 14 last year injured. Even Lindblom averaged more than JVR on the Flyers. That's an available 6-7 points alone at 14+. Not to mention the benefit of going from Bozak to Patrick or Couturier and likely playing more PP minutes.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:58 AM ET
if you say so
- 2Real



36 goals last season , you are right..Lets go Team NEgative..

It's a stupid signing..Hexy suxs!
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