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I am more shocked with how little St. Louis had to pay for O'Reilly. We could have easily had him. - TheUltimateJet
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I am more shocked with how little St. Louis had to pay for O'Reilly. We could have easily had him. - TheUltimateJet
Am I missing something here? We can't afford Statsny on a three-year deal at $6.5 but you think we can pay ROR $7.5 MM plus bonus for five years. Also its July 1st, Little now has a NMC and Perreault already had a NTC ( or is it reverse). No one wants Kulikov. Bottom line is it couldn't really happen even if ROR wanted to come here.
I listened to Chevy's interview today. Yeah, I was a bit tough on him. I just don't like seeing other team improving while we actually lose a very good player in Statsny. He was a great fit on the second line and really added to our PP. Its a small step backward IMHO.
Vegas and St. Louis improved , and Vegas still has lots of cap room. Maybe the Jets extra cap space can be used to do a deadline deal like last year. I have my eyes on Tyler Seguin.
I'll change my rating to a C because Tyler Myers is still a Jet and that's a major plus since there was no other dman out there that could have remotely replaced him. |
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Am I missing something here? We can't afford Statsny on a three-year deal at $6.5 but you think we can pay ROR $7.5 MM plus bonus for five years. Also its July 1st, Little now has a NMC and Perreault already had a NTC ( or is it reverse). No one wants Kulikov. Bottom line is it couldn't really happen even if ROR wanted to come here.
I listened to Chevy's interview today. Yeah, I was a bit tough on him. I just don't like seeing other team improving while we actually lose a very good player in Statsny. He was a great fit on the second line and really added to our PP. Its a small step backward IMHO.
Vegas and St. Louis improved , and Vegas still has lots of cap room. Maybe the Jets extra cap space can be used to do a deadline deal like last year. I have my eyes on Tyler Seguin.
I'll change my rating to a C because Tyler Myers is still a Jet and that's a major plus since there was no other dman out there that could have remotely replaced him. - jetsnation
Mike Green, Calvin DeHaan, and (sob) Enstrom are better than Myers. An argument can be made for Hamhuis as well. Pateryn, Holden, Franson, Folin, Moore, Seidenberg, Davidson, Claesson, Oduya, DeMelo, and Weircioch could as easily replace his minutes on the bottom pairing with Trouba and Morrissey eating the special teams time.
That’s not even mentioning Niku and Poolman already being within reach of taking his job if the move to the left doesn’t work. |
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Mike Green, Calvin DeHaan, and (sob) Enstrom are better than Myers. An argument can be made for Hamhuis as well. Pateryn, Holden, Franson, Folin, Moore, Seidenberg, Davidson, Claesson, Oduya, DeMelo, and Weircioch could as easily replace his minutes on the bottom pairing with Trouba and Morrissey eating the special teams time.
That’s not even mentioning Niku and Poolman already being within reach of taking his job if the move to the left doesn’t work. - Rexypoo
All in your usual tremendously flawed opinion. Just like your Tavares call you were so 100% sure on.
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-I’m really looking forward to Roslovic at Center, I think he will be the Jets biggest and nicest surprise this year!!
-Chevy still has his work cut out for him to get everyone to fit even without Stastny!!
-Stanley Cups are never won on July 1rst !!! We are still in great shape
-if and i mean a huge if, Roslovic can not play Center to the standard we need or Little continues to slide we can always look at an in season trade for a Center that includes Myers, if Poolman and Niku both get off to good starts.
- the negativity on twitter about a back up goalie is baffling to me, they are back ups for a reason and back up goalies are all over the waiver wire during the season, it’s no biggie!!
- I do hope Petan and Dano get longer looks, I’d love to see Petan on top line and Connor with Roslovic.
-most teams added aging over priced players yesturday that will never live up to there contracts or result in a cup. Nothing wrong with avoiding those mistakes.
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Did I read somewhere ( not sure if it was a fan or reporter, honestly don’t remember) that the rangers called Winnipeg to see if the jets had interest in Zibanejad or Hayes and were told no?
Also, PETE, you have said a couple times now a Trouba deal could be announced, any update here or why do you keep hearing this yet no announcements? |
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Am I missing something here? We can't afford Statsny on a three-year deal at $6.5 but you think we can pay ROR $7.5 MM plus bonus for five years. Also its July 1st, Little now has a NMC and Perreault already had a NTC ( or is it reverse). No one wants Kulikov. Bottom line is it couldn't really happen even if ROR wanted to come here.
I listened to Chevy's interview today. Yeah, I was a bit tough on him. I just don't like seeing other team improving while we actually lose a very good player in Statsny. He was a great fit on the second line and really added to our PP. Its a small step backward IMHO.
Vegas and St. Louis improved , and Vegas still has lots of cap room. Maybe the Jets extra cap space can be used to do a deadline deal like last year. I have my eyes on Tyler Seguin.
I'll change my rating to a C because Tyler Myers is still a Jet and that's a major plus since there was no other dman out there that could have remotely replaced him. - jetsnation
In order to get O'Reilly we could have dumped a bad contract like Bryan Little. Little is better than Berglund and Svotka.
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-I’m really looking forward to Roslovic at Center, I think he will be the Jets biggest and nicest surprise this year!!
-Chevy still has his work cut out for him to get everyone to fit even without Stastny!!
-Stanley Cups are never won on July 1rst !!! We are still in great shape
-if and i mean a huge if, Roslovic can not play Center to the standard we need or Little continues to slide we can always look at an in season trade for a Center that includes Myers, if Poolman and Niku both get off to good starts.
- the negativity on twitter about a back up goalie is baffling to me, they are back ups for a reason and back up goalies are all over the waiver wire during the season, it’s no biggie!!
- I do hope Petan and Dano get longer looks, I’d love to see Petan on top line and Connor with Roslovic.
-most teams added aging over priced players yesturday that will never live up to there contracts or result in a cup. Nothing wrong with avoiding those mistakes.
My Monday morning rant, carry on - Ross77
Agree 100%, especially with your last paragraph of other teams adding overvalued aging vets. I would have been ok is Stats signed here but I am not concerned one bit that he did not sign with the Jets.
This is Roslo’s Time and space to shine and grow into a prominent role which I believe he can do.
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In reality Jets are needing a center that can fit in with Laine and Ehlers. Not an easy task. Stastny looked good there because of his smarts and perhaps being a left hand shot.
I am not sure if being a left shot matters in this case or not, however the smarts are definitely a factor. Ehlers and Laine are unpredictable offensively and weak defensively.
Finding the right center will not be easy.
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In reality Jets are needing a center that can fit in with Laine and Ehlers. Not an easy task. Stastny looked good there because of his smarts and perhaps being a left hand shot.
I am not sure if being a left shot matters in this case or not, however the smarts are definitely a factor. Ehlers and Laine are unpredictable offensively and weak defensively.
Finding the right center will not be easy. - bennythehat
I think splitting the lines up is an easier option.
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I'm just putting this out there, so would you like to have Kevin Hayes, Matt Zucarello and Anthony DeAngelo for Jacob Trouba? |
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-I’m really looking forward to Roslovic at Center, I think he will be the Jets biggest and nicest surprise this year!!
-Chevy still has his work cut out for him to get everyone to fit even without Stastny!!
-Stanley Cups are never won on July 1rst !!! We are still in great shape
-if and i mean a huge if, Roslovic can not play Center to the standard we need or Little continues to slide we can always look at an in season trade for a Center that includes Myers, if Poolman and Niku both get off to good starts.
- the negativity on twitter about a back up goalie is baffling to me, they are back ups for a reason and back up goalies are all over the waiver wire during the season, it’s no biggie!!
- I do hope Petan and Dano get longer looks, I’d love to see Petan on top line and Connor with Roslovic.
-most teams added aging over priced players yesturday that will never live up to there contracts or result in a cup. Nothing wrong with avoiding those mistakes.
My Monday morning rant, carry on - Ross77
I truly hope Roslovic is ready to shine. I do doubt he has the skills and defensive responsibility to take on a center role just yet. He still has things to learn. It takes years to learn that position properly at the NHL level. I've always been a Petan fan, offensively he's very good , but he just wasn't ready defensively to take on that center role. He has said the same in several interviews I listened to over the last 6 months. I understand he has been tremendously devoted to correcting his flaws and also getting stronger. I do think he may be just about ready now and may get another chance to prove himself this coming season.
Dano will never amount to anything more than a fourth line player at best. Its the sad truth.
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I'm just putting this out there, so would you like to have Kevin Hayes, Matt Zucarello and Anthony DeAngelo for Jacob Trouba? - rangerbluelou
Sorry no, Trouba is our #1 D and way to valuable to us. would you like Myers and a 4th rounder for Hayes or Zibanejad? |
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All in your usual tremendously flawed opinion. Just like your Tavares call you were so 100% sure on. - jetsnation
It’s not really an opinion. Empirical evidence is your friend .
I shot my shot in Tavares. Dubas straight clowned Lou. I’ll take that L. |
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In reality Jets are needing a center that can fit in with Laine and Ehlers. Not an easy task. Stastny looked good there because of his smarts and perhaps being a left hand shot.
I am not sure if being a left shot matters in this case or not, however the smarts are definitely a factor. Ehlers and Laine are unpredictable offensively and weak defensively.
Finding the right center will not be easy. - bennythehat
Ideally, you’d rather have Ehlers and Laine split up. I saw this lineup suggested (and later suggested it myself because I love it), and it’s basically the best possible formation:
Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Historically dominant in the smallish sample size, but now Scheifele and Petan have improved even more. Will continue to be dominant.
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Had a stretch of being a legit top line. Only time Little had chemistry with anyone. To bad Maurice did his thing and broke it.
Connor-Roslovic-Laine
This one makes me nervous. Connor and Laine are currently defensive no-shows, but Roslovic was the top PK guy for the Moose. Stack them with offensive zone draws, and shelter as necessary. PP time for all 3.
Copp-Lowry-Dano
9 and 17 are defensive gold together. Dano is an excellent play driver, and can match their relentless forechecking, so maybe he can spark the offence.
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Ideally, you’d rather have Ehlers and Laine split up. I saw this lineup suggested (and later suggested it myself because I love it), and it’s basically the best possible formation:
Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Historically dominant in the smallish sample size, but now Scheifele and Petan have improved even more. Will continue to be dominant.
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Had a stretch of being a legit top line. Only time Little had chemistry with anyone. To bad Maurice did his thing and broke it.
Connor-Roslovic-Laine
This one makes me nervous. Connor and Laine are currently defensive no-shows, but Roslovic was the top PK guy for the Moose. Stack them with offensive zone draws, and shelter as necessary. PP time for all 3.
Copp-Lowry-Dano
9 and 17 are defensive gold together. Dano is an excellent play driver, and can match their relentless forechecking, so maybe he can spark the offence. - Rexypoo
I don’t have an issue with these lines, out if curiosity what are the anylitics of Little vrs Zibanejad or Hayes for the Rangers. I honestly do t know but am curious. The Rangers tried to one them plus for Trouba, supposedly, and of course we said no but could we offer Myers? I want Roslovic at Center but have no issue moving Little to the wing. |
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Ideally, you’d rather have Ehlers and Laine split up. I saw this lineup suggested (and later suggested it myself because I love it), and it’s basically the best possible formation:
Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Historically dominant in the smallish sample size, but now Scheifele and Petan have improved even more. Will continue to be dominant.
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Had a stretch of being a legit top line. Only time Little had chemistry with anyone. To bad Maurice did his thing and broke it.
Connor-Roslovic-Laine
This one makes me nervous. Connor and Laine are currently defensive no-shows, but Roslovic was the top PK guy for the Moose. Stack them with offensive zone draws, and shelter as necessary. PP time for all 3.
Copp-Lowry-Dano
9 and 17 are defensive gold together. Dano is an excellent play driver, and can match their relentless forechecking, so maybe he can spark the offence. - Rexypoo
Don’t like these lines. They should be:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Vesalainen
Ehlers-Petan-Roslovic
Copp-Lowry-Perreault
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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It’s not really an opinion. Empirical evidence is your friend .
I shot my shot in Tavares. Dubas straight clowned Lou. I’ll take that L. - Rexypoo
Lol...nobody clowned Lou. Seriously. I've had beers with Tavares more than once. He has wanted to be a Leaf forever. Stamkos near signing really scared him and there may be a bit more to the fact that Toronto came up short on Stamkos than is written because a better choice was "magically" known to be coming their way in a year.
Read between the lines Rexy. Tavares took a huge discount to come to T.O. I believe it was a $13 MM discount. It was in the cards for quite a while. The only charade was him going around the league interviewing to drive up the price from Toronto. Shanny didn't fall for that and kept his numbers reasonable.
Despite Tavares's genuine comments to appease the Islanders fans he was never staying there. Zero chance. |
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Don’t like these lines. They should be:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Vesalainen
Ehlers-Petan-Roslovic
Copp-Lowry-Perreault - TheUltimateJet
Its next to impossible to predict the lines right now when we don't even know who will make the team. I certainly know that there is zero chance Petan will be on the top line . I'll repeat.....ZERO !
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Its next to impossible to predict the lines right now when we don't even know who will make the team. I certainly know that there is zero chance Petan will be on the top line . I'll repeat.....ZERO ! - jetsnation
The funny thing is that Armia will get the same amount of points, be a better penalty killer and continue driving possession better than Perreault and only be paid half as much. |
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The funny thing is that Armia will get the same amount of points, be a better penalty killer and continue driving possession better than Perreault and only be paid half as much. - TheUltimateJet
Literally none of these things has ever been close to feasible |
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I don’t have an issue with these lines, out if curiosity what are the anylitics of Little vrs Zibanejad or Hayes for the Rangers. I honestly do t know but am curious. The Rangers tried to one them plus for Trouba, supposedly, and of course we said no but could we offer Myers? I want Roslovic at Center but have no issue moving Little to the wing. - Ross77
Hayes is ok. Zib murders both. |
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Don’t like these lines. They should be:
Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler
Laine-Little-Vesalainen
Ehlers-Petan-Roslovic
Copp-Lowry-Perreault - TheUltimateJet
Top line is solid, but your second line has two guys that struggle with defence and driving possession paired with a rookie.
Your 3rd line has Petan and Roslovic switching positions, when Roslovic was the top C for the Moose (and top PK guy), while Petan was the 1 RW.
You’ve got Copp and Lowry paired up, which is brilliant, but you’re now utterly wasting Perreault on them. |
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Literally none of these things has ever been close to feasible - Rexypoo
True not with the Jets and especially with Maurice coaching the team. In Montreal, he will have the opportunity to play in their top 6. Excited to see what Armia does with more ice time. |
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Top line is solid, but your second line has two guys that struggle with defence and driving possession paired with a rookie.
Your 3rd line has Petan and Roslovic switching positions, when Roslovic was the top C for the Moose (and top PK guy), while Petan was the 1 RW.
You’ve got Copp and Lowry paired up, which is brilliant, but you’re now utterly wasting Perreault on them. - Rexypoo
I was unaware that they played a lefty as a top line right winger. It’s kind of contradictory considering that they won’t play a righty in Laine on left wing.
Armia was being wasted when he played with Copp and Lowry. Let Perreault feel some of that pain. |
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