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Location: Dauphin, MB Joined: 09.11.2017
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Jets that filed for arbitration:
Trouba: Good in that Jets can choose a two-year term and Trouba's stats and injuries might support a good result for the Jets if Trouba's demands are too high and it gets to arbitration. Bad in that they still have not reached a deal and Trouba won't be a happy Jet if he gets less pay and term than he wants for another two years. Toss up . At least no team gave him an offer sheet.
Helle: Same as Trouba in Jets can choose a two-year term. Bad ,in that Helle in arbitration will likely get a lot more than whatever the Jets are offering after his stellar record-breaking season. Sign him now !
Lowry : Might be best that this goes to arbitration because of injuries and relatively poor stats might be in Jets favour. Furthermore Jets can choose two years at which point we might not be able to protect him from Seattle. Let an arbitrator decide.
Tanev : Will get more than Jets are offering in arbitration without a doubt. His stats and play in regular season and playoffs are very good. He was approx a point every third game while playing on third and fourth lines plus heavy PK duty and team leader in hits. I'm sure Chevy offered him a two-year qualifying offer. Jets should sign him before July 31st if they were smart
Dano: Its a mystery as to why he elected to go this route unless he sees it as his route to freedom from the Jets. He is obviously not worth more than the mandatory 10% bump Chevy offered him on a 1-year two-way deal. I mean 3 points in 27 games. Only Matthias was worse. He will lose any arbitration case and maybe even have to pay the Jets back some money ( kidding). If he were to somehow win arbitration then he is gone. Chevy won't pay. End result is he ends up on the Moose or another team. - jetsnation
I think Chevy will be looking for longer terms for Trouba, Helle and Lowry, shorter for Dano and Tanev. The track history from Chevy was 2013 - 5 years for Little, 6 for Wheeler, 7 for Bogosian, 2 for Postma and Tangradi. The longer terms worked out well.
Trouba will sign for 7 or 8 years with some movement allowed, Lowry 5, Helle 5.
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Its a good point.... although I don't think it will make a huge amount of difference regarding Lowry and Tanev with Seattle looming in two years. Mind you, we can only lose one player to Seattle. Dano's QO would only been a one-year two -way so who cares. Trouba will almost surely get signed long-term. Two sides must still be $500k or so apart or this might have got done by now. If not signed , then I prefer a two-year deal because Jets will never be able to afford his demands anyways, and save on cap in case he has a big year in 2018-19. No way Helle ever gets to arbitration.
I'm not claiming in any way my logic is perfect. Just brainstorming the permutations. - jetsnation
my best guesses are, that trouba and Helle both get signed before. Tanev and dano may make it to Arbitration because Chevy will not prioritize these deals and if it goes to Arb, no biggie, both will get 1 year deals. Lowry is interesting because the team and player may actually be far off on contract talks. When I read about Gustaffson pick, first thing I though was eventual lowry replacement if Lowry starts to cost too much. will be interesting to see how it plays out
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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my best guesses are, that trouba and Helle both get signed before. Tanev and dano may make it to Arbitration because Chevy will not prioritize these deals and if it goes to Arb, no biggie, both will get 1 year deals. Lowry is interesting because the team and player may actually be far off on contract talks. When I read about Gustaffson pick, first thing I though was eventual lowry replacement if Lowry starts to cost too much. will be interesting to see how it plays out - Ross77
You don't let a valuable low-cap utility player like Tanev got to arbitration. Its a losing proposition. Chevy will sign him before that for three years. I agree with the rest although Dano may be a casualty of his own greed. He should have signed his offer sheet on the spot. Borderline NHL'ers are a dime a dozen and easily obtained. He'd have been better to sign and hope for his chance. |
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You don't let a valuable low-cap utility player like Tanev got to arbitration. Its a losing proposition. Chevy will sign him before that for three years. I agree with the rest although Dano may be a casualty of his own greed. He should have signed his offer sheet on the spot. Borderline NHL'ers are a dime a dozen and easily obtained. He'd have been better to sign and hope for his chance. - jetsnation
I could take or leave both Dano and Tanev. I think they are both the same and can both be replaced. I’d be astonished if tanev got three years |
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Also, if Chevy didn’t like what Tanev or Dano were rewarded in arbitration he could walk away. They are replaceable and not worth anything on open market so no huge loss |
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Also, if Chevy didn’t like what Tanev or Dano were rewarded in arbitration he could walk away. They are replaceable and not worth anything on open market so no huge loss - Ross77
I agree that they are both replaceable, however, I disagree that they are the same player. Tanev is a much better skater.
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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I agree that they are both replaceable, however, I disagree that they are the same player. Tanev is a much better skater. - bennythehat
Better skater, excellent shot blocker, great on the PK, scored 12 goals , leads team in hits, never has an off day, and is a complete menace to the opposition. All done on bottom two lines. Its night and day. He would be scooped up in seconds if he hit waivers. I'm certain Chevy will sign him ahead of arbitration. |
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I am disappointed by the lack of involvement the Jets have had in the Karlsson sweepstakes. I really believed that for once the stars were going to align and that my favorite player would finally play for my favorite team!
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Better skater, excellent shot blocker, great on the PK, scored 12 goals , leads team in hits, never has an off day, and is a complete menace to the opposition. All done on bottom two lines. Its night and day. He would be scooped up in seconds if he hit waivers. I'm certain Chevy will sign him ahead of arbitration. - jetsnation
The problem with Tanev though is although he hits a lot, they are more of love taps. He doesn’t hurt or intimidate anyone, it’s not like anyone rushes with the puck cause Tanev is coming, also his hits often take him out of the play and result in loss of possession and when he has the puck, he loses it quickly. Very much like Armia, I don’t need him for his three great games a year. It’s not enough. |
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Curious, if healthy would anyone else be interested in offering a free agent try out (costs us nothing) to any of, Hamhuis, Versteeg or stempniak? I realize we dont need anyone. Just curious, how’s they would look in bottom line roles. |
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Curious, if healthy would anyone else be interested in offering a free agent try out (costs us nothing) to any of, Hamhuis, Versteeg or stempniak? I realize we dont need anyone. Just curious, how’s they would look in bottom line roles. - Ross77
Too many forwards already. No sense in giving Maurice an excuse to block young talent more than he already has |
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Too many forwards already. No sense in giving Maurice an excuse to block young talent more than he already has - Rexypoo
Ya see I’m
Still holding out hope we make a 2-1 trade where our two our Myers and a Dano/Petan/Lemieux, for a first rounder or solid D prospect. |
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Ya see I’m
Still holding out hope we make a 2-1 trade where our two our Myers and a Dano/Petan/Lemieux, for a first rounder or solid D prospect. - Ross77
Fingers crossed, but agree with Rexy's point. I Would hope it's Lemieux, maybe even Appleton....just not Petan...... |
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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Fingers crossed, but agree with Rexy's point. I Would hope it's Lemieux, maybe even Appleton....just not Petan...... - liverpoolnhl
I want Dano to be free. Petan is already a lock this season. Maurice will obviously keep tanking Dano, so I want him out. To anyone. He’ll get into the lineup quickly on most teams. |
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I want Dano to be free. Petan is already a lock this season. Maurice will obviously keep tanking Dano, so I want him out. To anyone. He’ll get into the lineup quickly on most teams. - Rexypoo
I feel a need to save this quote. It’s a Rexy classic ! |
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jetsnation
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Location: Winnipeg, MB Joined: 02.11.2015
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Ya see I’m
Still holding out hope we make a 2-1 trade where our two our Myers and a Dano/Petan/Lemieux, for a first rounder or solid D prospect. - Ross77
I'd like to keep Myers for this next year since we don't really have the cap problems until 2019-20. He may be worth more though after he signs an extension than trading him with one year left on his contract.
As for Petan. He needs to be kept. With Matthais, Hendricks, and Armia all gone he may get a chance to get some more ice time on the big club. Fact is that Maurice never mismanaged Petan, but rather that Petan just wasn't ready yet. He may finally be at a level where he needs to be come training camp.
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I'd like to keep Myers for this next year since we don't really have the cap problems until 2019-20. He may be worth more though after he signs an extension than trading him with one year left on his contract.
As for Petan. He needs to be kept. With Matthais, Hendricks, and Armia all gone he may get a chance to get some more ice time on the big club. Fact is that Maurice never mismanaged Petan, but rather that Petan just wasn't ready yet. He may finally be at a level where he needs to be come training camp. - jetsnation
I’d love for Petan to be played regularly. I also really want Poolman in the line up |
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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I'd like to keep Myers for this next year since we don't really have the cap problems until 2019-20. He may be worth more though after he signs an extension than trading him with one year left on his contract.
As for Petan. He needs to be kept. With Matthais, Hendricks, and Armia all gone he may get a chance to get some more ice time on the big club. Fact is that Maurice never mismanaged Petan, but rather that Petan just wasn't ready yet. He may finally be at a level where he needs to be come training camp. - jetsnation
Petan had excellent numbers away from Thorburn and Hendricks. Absolutely, he was mismanaged.
Myers needs to be offloaded sooner than later, what with the injury, age, and a likely drop in PP time going forward |
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Too many forwards already. No sense in giving Maurice an excuse to block young talent more than he already has - Rexypoo
And yet I hear we might sign Jan Kovar? |
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And yet I hear we might sign Jan Kovar? - Ross77
I hope not. 28 y.o. 7 g/28 a in 54 games last season after 4 years averaging 22 g/40 a. 5'11" 215 just = Dano. We don't need declining assets blocking younger guys..... |
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I hope not. 28 y.o. 7 g/28 a in 54 games last season after 4 years averaging 22 g/40 a. 5'11" 215 just = Dano. We don't need declining assets blocking younger guys..... - liverpoolnhl
I think I agree but don’t know the player at all so hard to judge him |
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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I think I agree but don’t know the player at all so hard to judge him - Ross77
Kovar bounces back in the playoffs. On a 2 year deal, I take that shot. Just need to move Little out if you do. Roslovic should be a C, and Petano need to play. |
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Kovar bounces back in the playoffs. On a 2 year deal, I take that shot. Just need to move Little out if you do. Roslovic should be a C, and Petano need to play. - Rexypoo
I'm surprised you would consider that small sample size relevant and I don't think either one of us believes Little would waive his NMC. But, Little could move to Roslovic's wing on the 3rd line.
Still begs the question: why do we need him?
Will there be a bidding war or is he bound to an ELC?..... |
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Rexypoo
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Location: Yes Joined: 02.08.2016
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I'm surprised you would consider that small sample size relevant and I don't think either one of us believes Little would waive his NMC. But, Little could move to Roslovic's wing on the 3rd line.
Still begs the question: why do we need him?
Will there be a bidding war or is he bound to an ELC?..... - liverpoolnhl
Ideally, we don’t. I just don’t know if Roslovic is ready for a top center role under Scheifele.
My ideal lineup:
Petan-Scheifele-Wheeler
Perreault-Little-Ehlers
Connor-Roslovic-Laine
Copp-Lowry-Dano
Tanev |
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Kovar not an issue anymore! |
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