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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
Are we better ..
- gerbe75pts


No, probably not. The depth is better, but the high-end talent is worse. If you believe in addition by subtraction, we might be better. Can't be worse than 31, but can be 31 again. I like the Sheary and Hutton deals.

I don't know poop, so maybe we are better. If I'm watching another year of spinning, falling Girgensons and whatever the (frank) Larsson does, I will be more mad than if we traded Eichel for Dylan Strome and and Lygma
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:56 AM ET
He asked for bellows so you mean to tell me he didn’t ask about the other 4 for the blues ?
- gerbe75pts

Jesus Christ STFU, enough.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
CHL is the most important league half the players in the nhl come from there

But let’s ignore it

- gerbe75pts


so Botts should have bypassed Dahlin, Svenchnikov, Zadina...balh blah blah
Go it.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
??? Jack Sam
Sheary Mitts Okposo
Rodrigues Sabotka Berglund
Wilson Girgs Pommer
Larson

Risto McCabe
Scandella Dahlin
Bogo Nelson
Hunwick

Hutton
Ulmark

- soljor09


Nitpicking but I feel like Berglund is more the solid 3C whereas Sobotka is more of a fill in C. I think this is pretty much it though. Today. Only question is, does Guhle force his way in?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
It’s over with the trade sucked but I won’t female dog anymore .

If Thompson hits the weight room and improves his skating which is possible I saw it with John Tavares
He’s very raw but if we develop him right he could end up like Jamie b in 4 years he has that shot like him though pretty deadly and accurate



Ok now let’s talk trade to get jack his winger
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
So what you are saying is
50% of the players come from the CHL
50% come from other places.

So really its no more important than anywhere else.

- ImThatGuy



1/2 of your money is in one bank.

The other 1/2 is in 4 separate other institutions.

All five are being breached, but you can only protect one. My guess is you're going to the one bank with 1/2 your money. That argument doesn't quite work.

The fact of the matter is that the best talent overall is still in the CHL, and will be for some time. It's not a problem yet, but it's not "no big deal" either.

IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
He asked for bellows so you mean to tell me he didn’t ask about the other 4 for the blues ?
- gerbe75pts


I didn't realize you culd force the other side to give what you ask for.
Interesting, who knew?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
So Botts got the 4th best prospect by your count.. Ok you have the right to that opinion. But could there be a chance that he was the 2/3rd prospect for Botts? I mean, you're not right all the time, and I doubt you've done the extensive work on viewing these prospects that an NHL GM has done. Looking at a highlight reel only tells you so much. But if it really bothers you this much, there are 30 other franchises you can be a fan of. Feel free.
- SDSabre

He got the 5th but I’m done hating on the trade
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
so Botts should have bypassed Dahlin, Svenchnikov, Zadina...balh blah blah
Go it.

- IonSabres



Zadina and Svechnikov both played in the CHL.
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
Jesus Christ STFU, enough.
- SABRES 89

I can't believe people aren't ignoring him by now. This is outta control, throwing a tantrum like a spoiled brat.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
So What wingers you got for me ?

AA would be nice start
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
He got the 5th but I’m done hating on the trade
- gerbe75pts


Again the 5th by YOUR metric. I did a quick search and had seen him as high as 3.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
I can't believe people aren't ignoring him by now. This is outta control, throwing a tantrum like a spoiled brat.
- Carubba-Kaleta


I stopped
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
we got sheary, 2 guys for the second/third line

goalie overhaul

signed hickey

added 3 prospects (thompson and 2 early draft picks)

and got dahlin


this roster was a mess top to bottom when botts took over

prospect pool should have been full but was depleted due to tim murray



everyone relax, we are getting better long term and short term
BareMetal
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 11.15.2017

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Andy Strickland

Verified account

@andystrickland
13h13 hours ago
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Regardless of what your opinion is of Patrik Berglund as a player, let me just say he is an unreal person and one of the best people to ever come thru STL. #Sabres getting a beaut #stlblues
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
listening to him through one ear...
I was saying the something to myself.

- IonSabres


Maybe I'm a homer, but I've been ultra supportive of everything the Bills have done since beane came in. I was extremely against the Watkins trade at first, but after a little time and some analysis, it started making a lot of sense. Fix the *culture*, the team somehow plays just a little better because they realize no one is "the guy" and they all have to play a little harder to fill the void. Say what you want, but they made the playoffs. They drafted a runner up D rookie of the year with the 27th OA pick. They grabbed their QB and the best MLB in the draft by giving up a 2 2nds and a 3rd. I love what they're doing, I love the attitude, I love the scouting talent, I love the trading, I love the roster churning, I love the vision, and I love #theprocess. I'm all in on that team. Haters can hate, don't care.

If the Sabres can run their team like the Bills, we'll be good in no time.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Someone posted it yesterday ..
- gerbe75pts


good source.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Zadina and Svechnikov both played in the CHL.
- buffalofan19



ooops -
well then they should have grabbed one of them instead
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Maybe I'm a homer, but I've been ultra supportive of everything the Bills have done since beane came in. I was extremely against the Watkins trade at first, but after a little time and some analysis, it started making a lot of sense. Fix the *culture*, the team somehow plays just a little better because they realize no one is "the guy" and they all have to play a little harder to fill the void. Say what you want, but they made the playoffs. They drafted a runner up D rookie of the year with the 27th OA pick. They grabbed their QB and the best MLB in the draft by giving up a 2 2nds and a 3rd. I love what they're doing, I love the attitude, I love the scouting talent, I love the trading, I love the roster churning, I love the vision, and I love #theprocess. I'm all in on that team. Haters can hate, don't care.

If the Sabres can run their team like the Bills, we'll be good in no time.

- TheSabresTaco



To be fair, it turned out that the Bills had a much better defense than we realized. Rex Ryan ruined it that much. The Sabres don't have that. They've had a talent deficiency for quite a while.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Again the 5th by YOUR metric. I did a quick search and had seen him as high as 3.
- SDSabre

1 Thomas
2Kyrou
3 Kostin
4) Dunn
5)Thompson
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Andy Strickland

Verified account

@andystrickland
13h13 hours ago
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Regardless of what your opinion is of Patrik Berglund as a player, let me just say he is an unreal person and one of the best people to ever come thru STL. #Sabres getting a beaut #stlblues

- BareMetal

Exactly what we need to mend a Brocken locker room. Dahlin needs to learn to be a pro. Along with all the other young guys. We lacked experience and leadership. Now we have it, last move of the year will be a top 6 lwer and all will be well.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
good source.
- TheSabresTaco

it's time for him to take a break IMO
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
we got sheary, 2 guys for the second/third line

goalie overhaul

signed hickey

added 3 prospects (thompson and 2 early draft picks)

and got dahlin


this roster was a mess top to bottom when botts took over

prospect pool should have been full but was depleted due to tim murray



everyone relax, we are getting better long term and short term

- homiedclown



Great Post
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
This is an issue, and I don't believe there is too much value to other teams though...I see a number of waivers in early October.
- IonSabres


Oh, sure. It's a lot of clean up now, unless we do a package or two. But hell, if we can get some top 3 or 4 picks, great.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
So Botts got the 4th best prospect by your count.. Ok you have the right to that opinion. But could there be a chance that he was the 2/3rd prospect for Botts? I mean, you're not right all the time, and I doubt you've done the extensive work on viewing these prospects that an NHL GM has done. Looking at a highlight reel only tells you so much. But if it really bothers you this much, there are 30 other franchises you can be a fan of. Feel free.
- SDSabre


Even when he's wrong, he's right. He's always right. Especially when he's wrong.
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