But did we? I don’t think we will know that answer till about 15 games in. There is nothing that says Hutton is better than robin
- IndianaSabresFan

Who's to say now

From what I posted last week about ROR it seemed like the best case for both parties was to move him, sounds like it won't happen now. Have to be strong down the middle and we are now.
- SABRES 89

But man do we need top 6 wingers. Moving him could bring one back.... maybe

From what I posted last week about ROR it seemed like the best case for both parties was to move him, sounds like it won't happen now. Have to be strong down the middle and we are now.
- SABRES 89

Thanks for the info ! If they do decide to move him I’m sure it’s because the Isles and Sharks stepped up at the plate after missing out on JT.

Heading to the pine lounge this week after golf.
- mhp

👍🏾

My brother told me that you stopped in and asked about me like a year ago or so.

But did we? I don’t think we will know that answer till about 15 games in. There is nothing that says Hutton is better than robin
- IndianaSabresFan

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Lehner, but he was above average for most of his time here and Johnson was seen as a very strong backup. This year, it's a huge wildcard. It could be better or worse.

I am open to give him another shot

Said that many times


If you signed that guy the yotes got
Moved casey to wing

Changes everything
- homiedclown

I would have loved that. Would you have given him 3 years though? I feel like 2 is as far as I would go. You never know if you're gonna get the 6 goal Grabner or the 25 goal Grabner.

👍🏾

My brother told me that you stopped in and asked about me like a year ago or so.
- IndianaSabresFan

I was there last year, yes. I remember talking to him. Nice people there.

But man do we need top 6 wingers. Moving him could bring one back.... maybe
- IndianaSabresFan

We do but then we are weak down the middle, can Casey be number 2 center ? that's the big question. I'm not a Grabner fan but if they could have grabbed him, it would have helped some.

Thanks for the info ! If they do decide to move him I’m sure it’s because the Isles and Sharks stepped up at the plate after missing out on JT.
- Pegullaville

Sure, hard to say.

For me it started when Botts refused to do any buyouts (Larsson, Beaulieu). Getting Hutton was very good but he didn't address other needs and players I felt he could have signed today went elsewhere. He was too cautious when he admitted at the end of last season changes will happen. Today was his opportunity.

There is still time for him to make those changes, we'll see.
- mhp

Fair enough.
It seems most of the displeasure centers around:
- no big change in the old core...primarily around ROR as he
I) has a perceived attitude problem
II) does fit the speed game
III) perceived to be over paid
IV) likely to get a very good return
- lack of acquiring a top end LW

Just some perspective-

The Leafs have made the playoffs last two years, have the best young core of forwards in the league arguably, and still go out and sign a star player.

You can’t help it if JT wasn’t interested in the Sabres, but you can’t sit back and watch teams you pretend to have rivalries with get better and better and think you’ve accomplished anything because lottery balls bounced your way.

Dahlin is a great start. But we thought Eichel was a great start too. You don’t make the necessary moves now, in three years we will be sitting here in the same spot with another GM and coach.

This team was DEAD LAST. Not just short of the playoffs. Dead. Freaking. Last.

Do something about it.

We do but then we are weak down the middle, can Casey be number 2 center ? that's the big question. I'm not a Grabner fan but if they could have grabbed him, it would have helped some.
- SABRES 89

Casey as 2c is a huge question. But I think Erod is more than capable as the 3c. Obviously not as good as Casey would be at that spot though.

My opening lineup as of right now with ROR still on the team.

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Erod-Mitts-Okposo
Bailey-ROR-Baptiste
Wilson-Larsson-Pominville
Girgensons, CJ Smith

Scandella-Risto
Dahlin-Bogo
McCabe-Nelson

Hutton
Ullmark

From what I posted last week about ROR it seemed like the best case for both parties was to move him, sounds like it won't happen now. Have to be strong down the middle and we are now.
- SABRES 89

We’ve been strong down the middle for 3 years now

Casey as 2c is a huge question. But I think Erod is more than capable as the 3c. Obviously not as good as Casey would be at that spot though.
- IndianaSabresFan

Eichel
Mitts
ROR
Erod

Is elite center depth imo

Just some perspective-

The Leafs have made the playoffs last two years, have the best young core of forwards in the league arguably, and still go out and sign a star player.

You can’t help it if JT wasn’t interested in the Sabres, but you can’t sit back and watch teams you pretend to have rivalries with get better and better and think you’ve accomplished anything because lottery balls bounced your way.

Dahlin is a great start. But we thought Eichel was a great start too. You don’t make the necessary moves now, in three years we will be sitting here in the same spot with another GM and coach.

This team was DEAD LAST. Not just short of the playoffs. Dead. Freaking. Last.

Do something about it.
- sbroads24

I was thinking somewhat of the same thing, we just keep wasting Jack

We’ve been strong down the middle for 3 years now
- sbroads24

Can't have both I guess

My opening lineup as of right now with ROR still on the team.

Sheary-Eichel-Reinhart
Erod-Mitts-Okposo
Bailey-ROR-Baptiste
Wilson-Larsson-Pominville
Girgensons, CJ Smith

Scandella-Risto
Dahlin-Bogo
McCabe-Nelson

Hutton
Ullmark
- Pegullaville

He's got to add another LWer. That's just gross.

I was thinking somewhat of the same thing, we just keep wasting Jack
- SABRES 89

I mean, I don’t want to sound like I don’t think we will be better. We will be. The kids will help. But it’s a long way to climb from 31st.

No more moral victories like the year after we got Eichel, where 80 points was a success

Eichel
Mitts
ROR
Erod

Is elite center depth imo
- jcragcrumple

That’s pretty damn good. But unless we improve our wings erod will be forced to play a position he is not as good at on a line higher than he should be on the depth chart.

When do we get Vanek?

Lmk when you’re ready to change your location...

“Fitz was right & i was wrong” works for me

U take this crap WAY too seriously man
Lighten up
- jdfitz77

Fitz is right and I was wrong
Vanek signed in Detroit.

How's that?

Is that not serious enough?

It would be huge if he actually pans out
- sbroads24

What is "pans out"? NHL regular?

Edit: No sarcasm intended. That's what I'd consider panning out for him. 4th line guy who can step up into a higher role when necessary and gets some PP time.

Can't have both I guess
- SABRES 89

Not until we have a 2nd round or later player turn into a legit top 6/top 4 guy. We just don't have enough quality assets to trade right now.

I like jack in that matchup.
Toronto wins the other two, give mitts a couple seasons and he could flip that.

Aspland is our future Kadri
- gordong

I guess we win with the

Dahlin / ? Match up