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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 2 @ 6:52 PM ET
Zadina hasnt spent the required 4 years in the minors yet. thats how it works here.
- wingz4life


"the world needs ditch-diggers too"
-Judge Smails, GM of the Detroit Red Wings.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:53 PM ET
defense, but idk why they want to move him. watch them trade him and keep Vanek
- wingz4life


Jake McCabe For AA
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
P Ham
- jcragcrumple


So not exactly the most credible source
It’s not like he spoke to Armstrong,
and i certainly wouldn’t think that Botts would give him details on the negotiations
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
I'd rather play Bailey and Baptiste instead of losing them to waivers. Waive those two. You know what you're gonna get from them. Let O'Regan center Bailey and Baptiste. At least it's fast
- jcragcrumple


As much as I’d love that, Botts won’t put Pominville in the press box. I don’t think he has the heart to do it. Pominville wasn’t too bad either last year, not worth the money he makes, but was serviceable. We have to make some moves regarding the bottom half of the roster that’s forsure.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:54 PM ET
Sabres passed on him.
- PrinceChill


We had no choice lol

I think he will understand
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jul 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
Jake McCabe For AA
- gerbe75pts

no rather give hronek,cholowski,setkov, hicketts a chance. i want them to keep AA. Him and Larkin cause trouble with their blazing speed.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
Big Vanek if he reaches his potential


Patrick maroon if he doesn’t

- gerbe75pts


Seems more like Maroon to me
Hope I’m wrong
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:55 PM ET
As much as I’d love that, Botts won’t put Pominville in the press box. I don’t think he has the heart to do it. Pominville wasn’t too bad either last year, not worth the money he makes, but was serviceable. We have to make some moves regarding the bottom half of the roster that’s forsure.
- Pegullaville


Too much loyalty I hope they move him
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:56 PM ET
no rather give hronek,cholowski,setkov, hicketts a chance. i want them to keep AA. Him and Larkin cause trouble with their blazing speed.
- wingz4life

What about some Scandellal
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 6:57 PM ET
Seems more like Maroon to me
Hope I’m wrong

- jdfitz77


Right now he’s not promising but hopefully they develop him right and not rush him
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jul 2 @ 6:59 PM ET
What about some Scandellal
- gerbe75pts

for helm, sure!
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:01 PM ET
Waiting for your Thompson projections sir
- jdfitz77

I don’t have a projection for him.

He could be very good, he could bust.

The point is he or the first rounder could absolutely end up being a very good peice. Or could be moved for a NHL winger at some point.

Not to mention Berglund is no slouch.

This should tell you how bad the Sabres wanted to trade O’Reilly. In case you still didn’t buy how bad the room was with him (not saying he’s 100% at fault)
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:04 PM ET
for helm, sure!
- wingz4life


Damn ..
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:05 PM ET
Yeah, i’m Not sure why we didn’t either unless they have something in mind ( cap wise) moving forward.
- gordong

am left to wonder if that was going to be the deal regardless, with botts saying, "if that's it, you need to pay his $7.5 m bonus...

don't have any inside info, but it might be a possibility
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Jul 2 @ 7:05 PM ET
Food for thought:

After the 2018/19 season - $10.6 million comes off the books - Pommer/Moulson
After the 2019/2020 season - $18.9 million comes off the books - Hunwick, Scandella, Bogo, Wilson, Sheary Sobotka

I think Botts is setting us up to improve this year and next year with us going "all in" after the 19/20 season. If we go from 62 (this year) to 82 to 90 over the next 2 years, I think the fans will see the progress and understand that we don't want to rush it like we did last time with GMTM at the helm. If he could somehow get somebody to take Okposo off our hands by 19/20 - we will be in very good shape with our young guys just starting to hit their stride.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 7:06 PM ET
I don’t have a projection for him.

He could be very good, he could bust.

The point is he or the first rounder could absolutely end up being a very good peice. Or could be moved for a NHL winger at some point.

Not to mention Berglund is no slouch.

This should tell you how bad the Sabres wanted to trade O’Reilly. In case you still didn’t buy how bad the room was with him (not saying he’s 100% at fault)

- sbroads24


Hamilton just said he was the problem, Eichel had no problem with him, it was ROR that had the problem. Hamilton is also a poop stirrer of the highest order, so who knows?
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
I think considering that Bailey and Bap have to clear waivers to go to rochester, we have too many NHL players as it stands. Decisions will have to be made.
- seedy



Yes, it's time to move on from Larsson and Girgs, we know what have in them, last place.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:07 PM ET
I don’t have a projection for him.

He could be very good, he could bust.

The point is he or the first rounder could absolutely end up being a very good peice. Or could be moved for a NHL winger at some point.

Not to mention Berglund is no slouch.

This should tell you how bad the Sabres wanted to trade O’Reilly. In case you still didn’t buy how bad the room was with him (not saying he’s 100% at fault)

- sbroads24


Well i also never said there was a “zero percent chance” these pueces work out either... so slow your roll if that comment was directed at me

I’m just not a big fan of Thompson
Hoping I’m wrong though

And yeah...
taking this deal certainly does make it seem like Botts wanted to move him
Definitely not a great deal

And it’s curious he made the comment about the price going up after midnight,
but then made this deal before
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:12 PM ET
Yes, it's time to move on from Larsson and Girgs, we know what have in them, last place.
- sskkoo1


Lets keep them for one last ride to last
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 2 @ 7:14 PM ET
So not exactly the most credible source
It’s not like he spoke to Armstrong,
and i certainly wouldn’t think that Botts would give him details on the negotiations

- jdfitz77


Don't see a reason to question his credibility. Armstrong's interview said the deal wasn't going to happen, once the bonus was paid as well.
sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres
Location: You are all Weirdos, NY
Joined: 06.06.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:15 PM ET
Lets keep them for one last ride to last
- gerbe75pts


I'd be okay with Girgs as an extra forward, but Larsson is useless and slow, plus he seems to have that attitude that he thinks he's a lot better than reality.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 2 @ 7:17 PM ET
Well i also never said there was a “zero percent chance” these pueces work out either... so slow your roll if that comment was directed at me

I’m just not a big fan of Thompson
Hoping I’m wrong though

And yeah...
taking this deal certainly does make it seem like Botts wanted to move him
Definitely not a great deal

And it’s curious he made the comment about the price going up after midnight,
but then made this deal before

- jdfitz77

Say Sobotka and the 2021 1st cancel out as irrelevant pieces.

The Sabres got a 3rd line center/wing, a good prospect, and a 1st round pick for a guy who could have potentially been their 3rd line center in a year from now.

I don’t see how that’s bad
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 2 @ 7:22 PM ET
Say Sobotka and the 2021 1st cancel out as irrelevant pieces.

The Sabres got a 3rd line center/wing, a good prospect, and a 1st round pick for a guy who could have potentially been their 3rd line center in a year from now.

I don’t see how that’s bad

- sbroads24


It's bad if you got your hopes way too high based on crazy twitter rumors.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 2 @ 7:27 PM ET
It's bad if you got your hopes way too high based on crazy twitter rumors.
- Lunaion


I just wanted one of the fast 3 prospects :/ we ended up with the not so fast one :/
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 2 @ 7:28 PM ET
Lets keep them for one last ride to last
- gerbe75pts


Gotta figure that Bailey & Baptiste are making the team,
otherwise just not qualify them

So u gotta think at least 1 of Girgs or Larsson is gone,
if not both
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