You want the tired trade discussion and the pros and cons of everything? Go back to the last blog. People, including myself, are exhausted.
- TheSabresTaco

Than what is the purpose of this one? To piss off folks who didnt post (or vent in my case) on the last one?

Look - I feel this trade is garbage, the team is peeing down our leg and telling us its raining....if you are excited about a late round pick, Sobotka and Berglund, god bless you but they are garbage, Bergluds 4 year contract is garbage, Vlad will go back to KHL if the Sabres tank again.....so Berglund, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd?

This is one of the worst trades in Sabres history.

Real value seems like its in picks and Tage...Berglund is still a useful player. Just turned 30 so you shouldn't see a huge dip in his abilities for the length of the contract.

Not sure about Sobotka...feels like he can easily be flipped at the trade deadline if Sabres are out of playoff hunt.

Wasn't sure what Sabres current high demand needs were and if this helped.
- DDM-Coga

It was pretty commonly agreed upon that we all think that Casey is not ready for full-time 2C duties especially the defensive zone part of it. He could easily grow into it mid way through the year.

We really wanted to get back a vet 2/3C type player who can take tougher faceoffs and let Casey ease into the roll. I think that Berglund is EXACTLY the guy we needed to accomplish this.

Sobotka is a cap dump but a useful bottom 6 guy too. I honestly don't think anyone in our bottom 6 score 10+ goals last year let alone 30 pts? Beats the heck out of Nolan and it allows some of our kids to stay in AHL if needed instead of getting bottom 6 minutes.

And Nylander.
- kritter65

I think he gets moved for someone like Skinner or Pacioretty.

just was curious my friend
- DDM-Coga

Just let it go

I don’t know if we’re going to be good this year.
- Der Kaiser

Right now still bottom 5

But if we get 2 wingers it's going to change

Than what is the purpose of this one? To piss off folks who didnt post (or vent in my case) on the last one?

Look - I feel this trade is garbage, the team is peeing down our leg and telling us its raining....if you are excited about a late round pick, Sobotka and Berglund, god bless you but they are garbage, Bergluds 4 year contract is garbage, Vlad will go back to KHL if the Sabres tank again.....so Berglund, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd?

This is one of the worst trades in Sabres history.
- -JCDC-

You are thiking of Tim Murray, he was into the Pee Pee slapping thing.

Than what is the purpose of this one? To piss off folks who didnt post (or vent in my case) on the last one?

Look - I feel this trade is garbage, the team is peeing down our leg and telling us its raining....if you are excited about a late round pick, Sobotka and Berglund, god bless you but they are garbage, Bergluds 4 year contract is garbage, Vlad will go back to KHL if the Sabres tank again.....so Berglund, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd?

This is one of the worst trades in Sabres history.
- -JCDC-

I'm with you but it's better to let it go it's just going to eat you away in your insides just let it go man

It helps

Was widely reported Botts was looking for a 1st, 2nd, prospect. He got all that and a few bags of chips, aka guys to fill in the middle 6. Each of them score more ES than ROR. So that's something. Some people like the prospect, some don't. I've read a lot about him and have no reason to dislike a 20 year old late 1st round pick.
- TheSabresTaco

last year in the AHL was a mess. Avs and Blues were sharing the Rampage and it wasn't working. The Head Coach was way over his head and was fired after this season.

If anyone is disappointed with his AHL numbers, have to put the disaster of a shared affiliate into perspective

just was curious my friend
- DDM-Coga

Eh, i think ROR is a phony, so I am good with what they got.

Than what is the purpose of this one? To piss off folks who didnt post (or vent in my case) on the last one?

Look - I feel this trade is garbage, the team is peeing down our leg and telling us its raining....if you are excited about a late round pick, Sobotka and Berglund, god bless you but they are garbage, Bergluds 4 year contract is garbage, Vlad will go back to KHL if the Sabres tank again.....so Berglund, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd?

This is one of the worst trades in Sabres history.
- -JCDC-

Dude, I post a fun little gif and you rip into me for not participating. That couldn't be farther from the truth. You don't like the trade, that's fine. But to blindly accuse Botts of being awful and trying to tank because Ryan o (frank)ing Reilly was traded is absolutely asinine. You're not recognizing a single piece he brought back, and the purpose for which he was traded.

It was pretty commonly agreed upon that we all think that Casey is not ready for full-time 2C duties especially the defensive zone part of it. He could easily grow into it mid way through the year.

We really wanted to get back a vet 2/3C type player who can take tougher faceoffs and let Casey ease into the roll. I think that Berglund is EXACTLY the guy we needed to accomplish this.

Sobotka is a cap dump but a useful bottom 6 guy too. I honestly don't think anyone in our bottom 6 score 10+ goals last year let alone 30 pts? Beats the heck out of Nolan and it allows some of our kids to stay in AHL if needed instead of getting bottom 6 minutes.
- JVince11

This is all accurate, not recognizing these points is avoiding reality.

@ Michael Pachla.....maybe this site would get better if users arent' posting inflammatory GIFs vs talking about a hockey trade.

This site could be soooooo good. But so many children and their GIF makers.
- -JCDC-

it happens

I am honestly shocked that STL still traded for ROR after I saw this signed Bozak to a 3 year x 5M AAV deal. I thought they balked at us.

So now they have Schenn, ROR, and Bozak down the middle accounting for 17.85M of their cap. Then Tarasenko, Piets, and Parayko accounting for another 19M.

Wait so Sobotka can go to the khl if he likes ?

last year in the AHL was a mess. Avs and Blues were sharing the Rampage and it wasn't working. The Head Coach was way over his head and was fired after this season.

If anyone is disappointed with his AHL numbers, have to put the disaster of a shared affiliate into perspective
- DDM-Coga

Rochester is going to be an even stronger, more cohesive team this year. If he goes to Rochester to start the year, he's in excellent hands. I've read a lot about Thompson. I've liked him since his draft year. He has a lot to offer that he hasn't shown yet. I really don't think people see his potential.

Dude, I post a fun little gif and you rip into me for not participating. That couldn't be farther from the truth. You don't like the trade, that's fine. But to blindly accuse Botts of being awful and trying to tank because Ryan o (frank)ing Reilly was traded is absolutely asinine. You're not recognizing a single piece he brought back, and the purpose for which he was traded.
- TheSabresTaco

Name 1 - One - Great move Botts has made ----- any fool could have drafted Dahlin.

I recognize EVERY piece we got back is Stl junk - Botts couldn't even get Parayko! Or Robert Thomas.....he is out of his league...why am I the only one who sees this? This fallacy of letting a GM get 2 years "on-the-job" training is preposterous.

I am honestly shocked that STL still traded for ROR after I saw this signed Bozak to a 3 year x 5M AAV deal. I thought they balked at us.

So now they have Schenn, ROR, and Bozak down the middle accounting for 17.85M of their cap. Then Tarasenko, Piets, and Parayko accounting for another 19M.
- JVince11

Now they have 3 2nd line centers

Oh well. They're a good team.

Name 1 - One - Great move Botts has made ----- any fool could have drafted Dahlin.

I recognize EVERY piece we got back is Stl junk - Botts couldn't even get Parayko! Or Robert Thomas.....he is out of his league...why am I the only one who sees this? This fallacy of letting a GM get 2 years "on-the-job" training is preposterous.
- -JCDC-

well since we are here, would you trade

Casey middlestadt
Rasmus Ristolainen
1st rd pick
2nd rd pick

for

ROR

Name 1 - One - Great move Botts has made ----- any fool could have drafted Dahlin.

I recognize EVERY piece we got back is Stl junk - Botts couldn't even get Parayko! Or Robert Thomas.....he is out of his league...why am I the only one who sees this? This fallacy of letting a GM get 2 years "on-the-job" training is preposterous.
- -JCDC-

How's Sheary and Hunwick for a (frank)ing 4th.

If you think this, not only are you dead wrong, you're (frank)ing delusional, and I'm wasting my time.

I am honestly shocked that STL still traded for ROR after I saw this signed Bozak to a 3 year x 5M AAV deal. I thought they balked at us.

So now they have Schenn, ROR, and Bozak down the middle accounting for 17.85M of their cap. Then Tarasenko, Piets, and Parayko accounting for another 19M.
- JVince11

I thought they would be out of the ror stakes after getting bozak

Name 1 - One - Great move Botts has made ----- any fool could have drafted Dahlin.

I recognize EVERY piece we got back is Stl junk - Botts couldn't even get Parayko! Or Robert Thomas.....he is out of his league...why am I the only one who sees this? This fallacy of letting a GM get 2 years "on-the-job" training is preposterous.
- -JCDC-

Stop already

sobotka had 11g and you want him as our 2nd line center
Please no
- gerbe75pts

who said he's a no. 2 center?

It was pretty commonly agreed upon that we all think that Casey is not ready for full-time 2C duties especially the defensive zone part of it. He could easily grow into it mid way through the year.

We really wanted to get back a vet 2/3C type player who can take tougher faceoffs and let Casey ease into the roll. I think that Berglund is EXACTLY the guy we needed to accomplish this.

Sobotka is a cap dump but a useful bottom 6 guy too. I honestly don't think anyone in our bottom 6 score 10+ goals last year let alone 30 pts? Beats the heck out of Nolan and it allows some of our kids to stay in AHL if needed instead of getting bottom 6 minutes.
- JVince11

I think most can appreciate Berglund being in the deal. I know I like it. It's a win for Armstrong bc he kept Kyrou and Thomas.

The trade Is a draw

I've been trying to get an answer for this but can you trade conditional pics ?
- gerbe75pts

not 100% sure, but why wouldn't you be able to?

Eh, i think ROR is a phony, so I am good with what they got.
- ImThatGuy

If you just put his non PP stats down, without the name, and showed his stats to everyone in hockey, I don’t think you would even guess he was a top 6 player on any team in the league.

I don’t hate ROR but we will easily replace his PP production and won’t miss him one bit 5v5.