I still don't know what this team is. Should be better goaltending, better D, maybe better 5-on-5 scoring. I don't think we'll be 31st again, but idk what we are.

pretty sure he's not a no. 2...or a no. 3 center
- Michael Pachla

Berglund and Sobodka can take heavy D zone draws and shelter middlestadt.

its a huge win.

pretty sure he's not a no. 2...or a no. 3 center
- Michael Pachla

he played 17 minutes a night for the blues

with no pp time

put up more 5 on 5 points then ror per 60 minutes last season'

what did that make him?

a 3rd center at worst

But it does.

you were wanting St Louis to give up the equivalent to that package. So if you wouldn't do it, why would St Louis?

Thomas = Middlestadt
Parayko = Risto
1st
2nd
Cap Dump (Bogosian)
- ImThatGuy

I don't care anymore but why do you always have to put the first Prospect why can't you put the 3rd or 2nd then the deal will be fair correct?

we need some elaboration
- Michael Pachla

something about he was a good teammate "at the rink"

I heard all his goals were fluke ones too.

Actually hasn’t scored a goal since 2014
- sbroads24

Berglund and Sobodka score more 5 on 5 points than ROR he last two years, discuss.

berglund does not take many faceoffs


he is a center on the back of a hockey card

winger in the lineup
- homiedclown

(Berglund waived his M-NTC to come to Buffalo)

GASPS

(Berglund waived his M-NTC to come to Buffalo)

GASPS
- TheSabresTaco

but we can't get anyone to come here

He left because he thought he should be the blues highest paid Center and not a lowly bottom 6 guy

He took his ball and went home which was his right but the blues won arbitration and he had to honor that contract and DA only wanted to let him back if he agreed to a contract extension
- sycsam

Thanks for clarification, sycsam.

Berglund and Sobodka score more 5 on 5 points than ROR he last two years, discuss.
- ImThatGuy

4th liners

but we can't get anyone to come here
- homiedclown

can I come to buffalo?

I don't care anymore but why do you always have to put the first Prospect why can't you put the 3rd or 2nd then the deal will be fair correct?
- gerbe75pts

Because you and other were saying we didn't get Thomas.

Thomas = Middlestadt


But if you must Olofson instead of Middlestadt. Do you do it?

I'm ready for the wingers trade

Because you and other were saying we didn't get Thomas.

Thomas = Middlestadt


But if you must Olofson instead of Middlestadt. Do you do it?
- ImThatGuy

Yes for Thomas sure

can I come to buffalo?
- DDM-Coga

Only if you are willing to open a sandwich and beer shop with me.

Than what is the purpose of this one? To piss off folks who didnt post (or vent in my case) on the last one?

Look - I feel this trade is garbage, the team is peeing down our leg and telling us its raining....if you are excited about a late round pick, Sobotka and Berglund, god bless you but they are garbage, Bergluds 4 year contract is garbage, Vlad will go back to KHL if the Sabres tank again.....so Berglund, a lottery protected 1st and a 2nd?

This is one of the worst trades in Sabres history.
- -JCDC-

Holy Overstatement Batman.

So many children on this page

At the end of the day here is what we know:

Some people on here undervalued ROR, some overvalued, and some knew exactly what he is.

He is a big minute eating 2nd line center. Doesn't produce enough away from the power player to make $7.5 million a year.

Here is what the trade netted:

A 3rd line center to let Mittelstadt work his way into being more defensive responsible

A depth forward who can play all 3 positions that hopefully wouldn't sniff anything past the 3rd line.

A former first round prospect who by all accounts was rushed throw development due to injuries. Some time in Rochester would do him some good. Oh by the way he is already more productive than the guy picked 8th overall that year (Nylander).

Then you have a 1st round pick this year. Should be a late teen pick.

A 2nd round pick in 2021.

If anyone thinks they were going to get a teams top prospect in this deal you're nuts.

Bellows wasn't being dealt

None of the top 3 St Louis prospects were coming either.

This isn't a huge win right now for Botts, but people that are acting like the sky is fallen cannot see the forest through the trees. He is building a team, he has to take some load bearing walls down first that the previous GM put in place.

I think looking from both sides of the trade it's a fair trade for both teams.

ROR needed to go. There is no point in arguing this anymore. If he didn't then Botterill wouldn't have shipped him out.

There are still some players that need to go away before the season starts, and I am willing to bet there will be at least 1 or 2 more wingers added when it is all said and done.

Botts has his vision. We have waited this long. May as well give the man some time to build what he has in mind.

Botts has his vision. We have waited this long. May as well give the man some time to build what he has in mind.
- burner087

junk. it's all junk.

Only if you are willing to open a sandwich and beer shop with me.
- TheSabresTaco

hells ya

Carbs and Hops

Yes for Thomas sure
- gerbe75pts

JFC, follow along

Olofsson
Risto
1st
2nd

for

ROR

do you do it?

Botts has his vision. We have waited this long. May as well give the man some time to build what he has in mind.
- burner087

Hopefully

JFC, follow along

Olofsson
Risto
1st
2nd

for

ROR

do you do it?
- ImThatGuy

Why are you adding ristolainen ? Your trades aren't making any sense

can I come to buffalo?
- DDM-Coga

ROR had beef with Landy and Duchene, correct?

something about he was a good teammate "at the rink"
- DDM-Coga

And I think said “I’ll leave it at that” or something along those lines