waterboy lives in my toilet

waterboy lives in my toilet
- Symba007

The room or the actual bowl

The room or the actual bowl
- Fredobbface

water tank

is now a good time to re-litigate the Subban-Weber trade?

is now a good time to re-litigate the Subban-Weber trade?
- DoubleDown

I miss Subban’s meniscus

at least we don't cheer for the Leafs....looks like they will really struggle this year

The issue is that the Leafs probably have the weakest group of defensemen in the east after Montreal and the Islanders. That group may not even get you to the playoffs. If Dubas is intent on seeing where it goes with this group, I think it'll be a big mistake.

I don't believe the forward group is close either. Kucherov is the best hockey player in the world. Their depth runs 4 lines deep. Our 3rd and 4th line would be some team's first or second line.
- Bolts91

I would give rejan houle another shot at this GM thing
- Fredo

Rejean Houle, Bob Gainey, Pierre Gauthier, and Marc Bergevin. I dont know much about Savard, but have we had a competent GM in the last 40 years?

Rejean Houle, Bob Gainey, Pierre Gauthier, and Marc Bergevin. I dont know much about Savard, but have we had a competent GM in the last 40 years?
- apex123

Yes. It explains the many stanley cups we have won in recent history

at least we don't cheer for the Leafs....looks like they will really struggle this year
- Symba007

the Leafs do still need an upgrade either in net or on defence. they remind me a bit of the Avalanche before they traded for Roy.

the Leafs do still need an upgrade either in net or on defence. they remind me a bit of the Avalanche before they traded for Roy.
- DoubleDown

In net? Andersen is the defintion of steady he’s a lock to finish the season with .919 sv%

Rejean Houle, Bob Gainey, Pierre Gauthier, and Marc Bergevin. I dont know much about Savard, but have we had a competent GM in the last 40 years?
- apex123

Savard's teams always seemed to be pretty well stocked with talent but he was definitely the last good GM here. Houle was bad. Gainey was mediocre. Gauthier wasn't really here long enough to make a big impact. i would say Bergevin is the worst of the bunch. he has been here so long already and the club has seen nothing but a decline in talent at all levels of the organization. it's actually impressive how slowly he has run this thing into the ground.

the Leafs do still need an upgrade either in net or on defence. they remind me a bit of the Avalanche before they traded for Roy.
- DoubleDown

Imo they need #1 and #2 dmen. Andersen is alright.

In net? Andersen is the defintion of steady he’s a lock to finish the season with .919 sv%
- Fredo

yes but steady goaltending behind an OK defence generally isn't good enough to win a Cup.

Imo they need #1 and #2 dmen. Andersen is alright.
- apex123

or if they upgrade at goalie they might be able to get by with their defence as is.

Savard's teams always seemed to be pretty well stocked with talent but he was definitely the last good GM here. Houle was bad. Gainey was mediocre. Gauthier wasn't really here long enough to make a big impact. i would say Bergevin is the worst of the bunch. he has been here so long already and the club has seen nothing but a decline in talent at all levels of the organization. it's actually impressive how slowly he has run this thing into the ground.
- DoubleDown

HIs suits are an elaborate decoy from the work he’s doing

yes but steady goaltending behind an OK defence generally isn't good enough to win a Cup.
- DoubleDown

He has the same carreer numbers as Carey Price aka the best goalie ever.

or if they upgrade at goalie they might be able to get by with their defence as is.
- DoubleDown

They need a pillar back there like a Marc Methot but they have some pretty good puck movers

HIs suits are an elaborate decoy from the work he’s doing
- Fredo

I dunno. I think both make him look ridiculous.

the Leafs do still need an upgrade either in net or on defence. they remind me a bit of the Avalanche before they traded for Roy.
- DoubleDown

Price for Hyman, Jooris and McElhenny.

Throw in Gallagher to make sure they bite.

at least we don't cheer for the Leafs....looks like they will really struggle this year
- Symba007

They will give their firstborn for Weber at the deadline

They will give their firstborn for Weber at the deadline
- J-P

Great.... another Indian kid....

Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher
Domi-Danault-Lehkonen
Hudon-Plekanec-Scherbak
Deslauriers-De La Rose-Peca


Mete-Petry
Alzner-Juulsen
Schlemko-Benn


Price
Niemi

Great.... another Indian kid....
- dt99999

Pacioretty-Drouin-Gallagher
Domi-Danault-Lehkonen
Hudon-Plekanec-Scherbak
Deslauriers-De La Rose-Peca


Mete-Petry
Alzner-Juulsen
Schlemko-Benn


Price
Niemi



- stinger67

- BashCH

I put Pacioretty there because I believe less and less he'll be moved from now till the start of the season

Also, Shaw, Byron and obviously Weber aren't there because they will miss the start of the season because of their respective surgeries.