I feel the same way about the Habs and Sens. I lived in Edmonton a long time and I always got a kick out of the hatred of anything that pertains to Ontario.

When McDavid signed that contract fans on this site were very disappointed at the dollar amount. But it seems like I’m the only one who remembers that.
- shack67

Donepezil, galantamine, rivastigmate, ask your doctor about these.

Call me anything you want but at least I’m not a bed pan technician.
- shack67

This is a good one

Donepezil, galantamine, rivastigmate, ask your doctor about these.
- leonkennedy

HA sold them all

Florida state taxes are a wonderful thing. The NHL might need to find a way to balance that out.
- MaximumBone

Taxes do help, but adopting a winning philosophy and incorporating that within the direction of the organization by a manager that notes the role of star players and their importance to the team cannot be understated.

Goes back to that argument we had a few months back. When a GM incorporates a philosophy staked in winning and successfully convinces its star players (Hedman & Stamkos) to be a part of the plan by focusing on what's best for the team, it trickles down and influences upcoming stars to be a part of such a plan as well (Kucherov). It creates an environment that is fueled by such motives. Until Yzerman leaves, expect this to be the case.

As mentioned, the tax difference does help (https://gavingroup.ca/nhl-tax-calculator/) as the difference in tax is around 1,000,000 compared to what we would have to give him to offset that, but that would still put him around 10,5m by our tax rates.

To put this into perspective, this guy has been at least on par with McDavid in all metrics for the last two years (following images are from the 2016-2017 season, but the rates in comparison are still similar in 2017-2018 [might need to double check that]).




Source: http://www.thelightninglo...-kucherov-get-connor.html

That was written at the beginning of the 2017 season btw, prior to his monster year. He could have easily asked for McDavid money and he would have every right to earn as such.

My point is that I don't think you want over 30 million tied up in 3 forwards. Your defense is already awful, and that would make sure you couldn't fix it. Not sure what Columbus would want for Panarin-I know it wouldn't include Draisatl-that would be a separate deal.
- Eric 1

The defense isn't as bad as everyone thinks. Sekera may have taken a step back, but a healthy Klefbom and a healthy Sekera it's not all that bad.

Two things:

Eklund's new blog arguing that Matthews is better than McDavid is hilariously awful. It's incredible some people take this nob seriously.

Maroon signed in St.Louis for 1x1.75 million. Took a discount.

Donepezil, galantamine, rivastigmate, ask your doctor about these.
- leonkennedy

Oh sorry I forgot that you’re also a pharmacist, family doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, urologist.
It’s great that even with all those qualifications you’re still first in line to wash private parts. You’re amazing in your own mind.

Thats what I mean, 2005, its been over a decade and now its just a topic since Stamkos etc since the Lightning have been good. NHL fans crave big name trades and signings so when a team keep t heir own stars instant reaction come on we want Chaos!

I dont see this an issue, the vast majority of players want to win, and if you area good team that gives additional benefits to live and play there, thats a bonus to the player.

The majority of good players wont stay in places just for the tax breaks and the sandy as their sole reason. Its more of a credit to how well the Lightning are built top to bottom. Good NHL team, strong AHL team, incredible prospect pipeline.

Its not like the Pantherse area having the same level of success when it comes to signing their own guys, its been full market value for all their guys come off ELCs and bridges.
- DDM-Coga

This x100.

Solid management can do so much for a team. When a GM has a philosophy in mind and does everything in his power to incorporate it into the mindset of the team, especially its star players, it's an accomplishment that separates a GM from the pack.

England and the Leafs are quite similar.

Both have insufferable fans, both are overrated, and most importantly, both haven't won the big one since the 60s.

It's funny people want to penalize TB and give other teams a similar advantage, but then you have to penalize FLO,ARI and COL as well.

Following up on the prior comment...

Kuch. vs McDavid analytics for the 2017-2018 season and prior seasons as well:

Kuch.
https://www.naturalstattr...te=y&v=p&playerid=8476453

McDavid.
https://www.naturalstattr...te=y&v=p&playerid=8478402

You can make the argument that Kucherov has more skilled teammates and he isn't a center, but still, to be at least on par with McDavid in all metrics of production is no small feat.

Two things:

Eklund's new blog arguing that Matthews is better than McDavid is hilariously awful. It's incredible some people take this nob seriously.

Maroon signed in St.Louis for 1x1.75 million. Took a discount.
- Oilers4Life14

Solid deal for STL.

Solid deal for STL.
- EdmHockeyMan

Was hoping the Leafs would sign him. Great deal for the blues.

It's funny people want to penalize TB and give other teams a similar advantage, but then you have to penalize FLO,ARI and COL as well.
- Lahey

Yes, that's the point. You find the team that resides in the highest taxed state or province and then reflect a percentage adjustment to the cap hit (not the contract) equal to the difference in total state/province and federal taxes paid out.

However, Coga laid out some valid counterpoints that I need to take the time to consider.

Two things:

Eklund's new blog arguing that Matthews is better than McDavid is hilariously awful. It's incredible some people take this nob seriously.

Maroon signed in St.Louis for 1x1.75 million. Took a discount.
- Oilers4Life14

Look at the hits eks blog generated and then ask yourself who’s the stupid one. Ek is probably pissing himself laughing.

Thats what I mean, 2005, its been over a decade and now its just a topic since Stamkos etc since the Lightning have been good. NHL fans crave big name trades and signings so when a team keep t heir own stars instant reaction come on we want Chaos!

I dont see this an issue, the vast majority of players want to win, and if you area good team that gives additional benefits to live and play there, thats a bonus to the player.

The majority of good players wont stay in places just for the tax breaks and the sandy as their sole reason. Its more of a credit to how well the Lightning are built top to bottom. Good NHL team, strong AHL team, incredible prospect pipeline.

Its not like the Pantherse area having the same level of success when it comes to signing their own guys, its been full market value for all their guys come off ELCs and bridges.
- DDM-Coga

Those are some points worth considering. I'd argue the Panthers are having a degree of that benefit. Both Barkov and Trocheck came in at under market value relative to when they were signed imo. Their Dmen, not so much.

Yes, that's the point. You find the team that resides in the highest taxed state or province and then reflect a percentage adjustment to the cap hit (not the contract) equal to the difference in total state/province and federal taxes paid out.

However, Coga laid out some valid counterpoints that I need to take the time to consider.
- MaximumBone

If you are taking time to consider after a Coga point you are pretty much (frank)ed.

There’s only one McDavid. It’s not just the speed of his feet but his hands are so fast. When he scores on one of his rushes it takes slow motion to see what move he used. You know he roofed it but it’s a blur.

As far as the media goes I guess it would be pretty boring if all they ever say is that he’s the best. Bar none. We have to argue about something.

Look at the hits eks blog generated and then ask yourself who’s the stupid one. Ek is probably pissing himself laughing.
- shack67

Sure.

But in the eyes of the hockey world he's not going to be gazed upon as a credible source. I mean he already isn't, but still.

Those are some points worth considering. I'd argue the Panthers are having a degree of that benefit. Both Barkov and Trocheck came in at under market value relative to when they were signed imo. Their Dmen, not so much.
- MaximumBone

Gregor also had an article on this today. Mentions how do you then start calculating things such as the currency gain that guys who play in Canada get while paid in American dollars?

There is just so much to go off of, don't think we will ever see a change that starts to take in all these variables.

Sure.

But in the eyes of the hockey world he's not going to be gazed upon as a credible source. I mean he already isn't, but still.
- Oilers4Life14

I don’t think anyone thinks he’s credible. But he has given us a free place to have dumb arguments and share a few laughs and insults.

If you are taking time to consider after a Coga point you are pretty much (frank)ed.
- Lahey

Those are some points worth considering. I'd argue the Panthers are having a degree of that benefit. Both Barkov and Trocheck came in at under market value relative to when they were signed imo. Their Dmen, not so much.
- MaximumBone

Barkov (5.9) signed his contrtact the same offseason as MacKinnon (6.3m) and scheifele (6.125)

I think he signed at market value compared to the Cs that signed of similar age and what they have produced up to date

Trotchek was just a smart signing, giving a guy a long term extention comign off his elc after putting up 53 points in the final year, over pay with aav based off 1 good year rewarding him hoping its a steal as they move into the term of the contract.

At the time Zibanejad just put up a 46 and 51 point season off his birdge and signed to a 5.3m long term extension. I think they just got a great deal in Trotchek with how he has taken his game to a new level. Probably that time it was just a nice market deal for him

Oh sorry I forgot that you’re also a pharmacist, family doctor, psychologist, psychiatrist, urologist.
It’s great that even with all those qualifications you’re still first in line to wash private parts. You’re amazing in your own mind.
- shack67

Yeah you're right, your best option would be to take the tide pod and bleach challenge with JB. Your 85 year old liver shouldn't need much.

Yeah you're right, your best option would be to take the tide pod and bleach challenge with JB. Your 85 year old liver shouldn't need much.
- leonkennedy

There you go with your old man fetish. Nice that you chose a career path lets you indulge.