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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 10 @ 11:07 PM ET
Hall even came out and admitted a couple things.

1. He admitted the trade was a wake up call

2. He admitted that he likes NJ a lot because there isn't a lot of media/fan pressure.


Not saying he would've been a horrible player here as I do think he could've been a 60-75 point guy here. But I don't think he would've ever gotten the Hart and 90+ points.

- Lahey

Why does he all of a sudden go downhill during his prime? 60 pts?
He had over a ppg twice here. And over 80 once. Before his true prime. And with an inferior Center to leon today.
In fact, his metrics were comparable here in multiple seasons to his beast year last season in jersey.

Everything else is background noise and excuses. hall on this team gives us potentially the most lethal offence in the game. At least among the games top few.
With him on the second line alongside leon, We’d be exactly what they’re saying about the leafs right now. Some issues on defence, but lethal up front and a contender for years to come.


He’d be good for 70+ on a yearly basis (which is elite in today’s game) and of course potentially have some career years where he reached the gaudy totals
YzermanTheMan
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Reveen is JB’s salad tosser
Joined: 08.21.2013

Jul 11 @ 8:55 AM ET
What up my crazy mother(frank)ers?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 11 @ 9:03 AM ET
Why does he all of a sudden go downhill during his prime? 60 pts?
He had over a ppg twice here. And over 80 once. Before his true prime. And with an inferior Center to leon today.
In fact, his metrics were comparable here in multiple seasons to his beast year last season in jersey.

Everything else is background noise and excuses. hall on this team gives us potentially the most lethal offence in the game. At least among the games top few.
With him on the second line alongside leon, We’d be exactly what they’re saying about the leafs right now. Some issues on defence, but lethal up front and a contender for years to come.


He’d be good for 70+ on a yearly basis (which is elite in today’s game) and of course potentially have some career years where he reached the gaudy totals

- HB77

Because that's where he was headed when he was here. Heck he only had 53 in NJ but people seem to forget about that as well.
Little Ricky
Location: Sunnyvale, NS
Joined: 12.20.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:29 AM ET
Why does he all of a sudden go downhill during his prime? 60 pts?
He had over a ppg twice here. And over 80 once. Before his true prime. And with an inferior Center to leon today.
In fact, his metrics were comparable here in multiple seasons to his beast year last season in jersey.

Everything else is background noise and excuses. hall on this team gives us potentially the most lethal offence in the game. At least among the games top few.
With him on the second line alongside leon, We’d be exactly what they’re saying about the leafs right now. Some issues on defence, but lethal up front and a contender for years to come.


He’d be good for 70+ on a yearly basis (which is elite in today’s game) and of course potentially have some career years where he reached the gaudy totals

- HB77


Contrary to what Hall says he didn't want to be in Edmonton. He was only upset that he got traded from his buddies (Sploogent Hoppins & Eberle).
Little Ricky
Location: Sunnyvale, NS
Joined: 12.20.2014

Jul 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
Because that's where he was headed when he was here. Heck he only had 53 in NJ but people seem to forget about that as well.
- Lahey

Exactly... I can see Hall and Eberle signing in the same place next summer.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 11 @ 10:51 AM ET
Exactly... I can see Hall and Eberle signing in the same place next summer.
- Little Ricky

Lol I just said in Todd's latest blog that they should go after Eberle.

Also Hall has one more year than Ebs.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 11 @ 10:52 AM ET
Contrary to what Hall says he didn't want to be in Edmonton. He was only upset that he got traded from his buddies (Sploogent Hoppins & Eberle).
- Little Ricky

Hall made it quite clear that he was quite happy in NJ to be in a place that isn't hockey 365 days a year.

Jersey is a place where if he has one bad game he doesn't hear about it for a week on the radio and from the media.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:27 AM ET
Hall made it quite clear that he was quite happy in NJ to be in a place that isn't hockey 365 days a year.

Jersey is a place where if he has one bad game he doesn't hear about it for a week on the radio and from the media.

- Lahey

Him deciding it was a good place to be after some time doesn’t mean that he hated it in edmonton.
He flat out said he was pissed he was traded.

I’ve heard the “Hes different player now” from numerous apologists before. Untrue.
His numbers relative to his teammates weren’t even his best in his career last year.

You can draw all the conclusions and cause and effect u like, but it’s nothing more than conjecture to make excuses for a move that set us back at least a few years and one of the worst in oilers history.

We traded away the reigning hart winner for a stay at home 2nd pairing defender.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:28 AM ET
Because that's where he was headed when he was here. Heck he only had 53 in NJ but people seem to forget about that as well.
- Lahey

But if he was so happy to be traded why’d he struggle? Weird.

He also only played 70 games that year

Little Ricky
Location: Sunnyvale, NS
Joined: 12.20.2014

Jul 11 @ 11:30 AM ET
Him deciding it was a good place to be after some time doesn’t mean that he hated it in edmonton.
He flat out said he was pissed he was traded.

Now you can draw all the conclusions and cause and effect u like, but it’s nothing more than conjecture to make excuses for a move that set us back at least a few years and one of the worst in oilers history.

We traded away the reigning hart winner for a stay at home 2nd pairing defender.

- HB77

It was a blow to his ego and thats why he was pissed.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jul 11 @ 11:46 AM ET
But if he was so happy to be traded why’d he struggle? Weird.

He also only played 70 games that year

- HB77

Lots of guys struggle their first year in a new place.

As for the 70 games, that's a common factor with Hall. He is more likely not to play a full year than he is a full year. Hence why I put 60-75 as expectations for him in Edmonton.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:57 AM ET
It was a blow to his ego and thats why he was pissed.
- Little Ricky

Probably. But that doesn’t mean more than one thing couldn’t be true at the same time
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 11:59 AM ET
Lots of guys struggle their first year in a new place.

As for the 70 games, that's a common factor with Hall. He is more likely not to play a full year than he is a full year. Hence why I put 60-75 as expectations for him in Edmonton.

- Lahey

So a ppg right around his career avg?
And of course the ability to go slightly above and below that from time to time?

Sounds about right
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 12:18 PM ET
Probably. But that doesn’t mean more than one thing couldn’t be true at the same time
- HB77


There is a little truth in all of it I think. Hall is an elite and somewhat arrogant athlete. I’m sure he felt the trade was a betrayal of sorts, and I’m equally sure it was a blow to his ego.
Regardless he is enjoying his hero status with the Devils, which is something he would have had to share as an Oiler. Would that have bothered him? Maybe. Only Hall could say for sure.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jul 11 @ 12:32 PM ET
There is a little truth in all of it I think. Hall is an elite and somewhat arrogant athlete. I’m sure he felt the trade was a betrayal of sorts, and I’m equally sure it was a blow to his ego.
Regardless he is enjoying his hero status with the Devils, which is something he would have had to share as an Oiler. Would that have bothered him? Maybe. Only Hall could say for sure.

- Wildschwein


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Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jul 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
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- HB77


Believe in Larsson, and you too could be gifted such wisdom.

leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jul 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
There is a little truth in all of it I think. Hall is an elite and somewhat arrogant athlete. I’m sure he felt the trade was a betrayal of sorts, and I’m equally sure it was a blow to his ego.
Regardless he is enjoying his hero status with the Devils, which is something he would have had to share as an Oiler. Would that have bothered him? Maybe. Only Hall could say for sure.

- Wildschwein

I'm just not convinced. Every time we saw Hall, he always had such a long face.
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