Like who?
- VANTEL

Gaunce Leipsic Schaller Beagle Roussel Eriksson. Maybe Gagner depending on whether Gagner improves this year.

He is also more consistent than Goldy or JV

Gaunce Leipsic Schaller Beagle Roussel Eriksson. Maybe Gagner depending on whether Gagner improves this year.

He is also more consistent than Goldy or JV
- NorthNuck

Like who?
- VANTEL

Beagle Gagne Gaunce Beartschi Virtanen.

- Nucker101

Which part?

I'm not pulling out the pom pom for Gagner by any means but with the Sedins now gone opens opportunities for others. I can see him getting 40 pts which is nothing to sneeze at.
- Eldebrink

i'd put Gagner as the 2C before Sutter.
Sutter will play shutdown C like last year.

Gaunce Leipsic Schaller Beagle Roussel Eriksson. Maybe Gagner depending on whether Gagner improves this year.

He is also more consistent than Goldy or JV
- NorthNuck

- dbot

I hesitated to put Roussel on there but offensively Granlund does outperform him and they can both play shutdown.

With Gagner if he has the bounce back we are all hoping his does then obviously he's the better player

Gaunce Leipsic Schaller Beagle Roussel Eriksson. Maybe Gagner depending on whether Gagner improves this year.

He is also more consistent than Goldy or JV
- NorthNuck

Lets break this down.

Schaller was hired as muscle a fighter. I have never seen Granlund have or win one fight.

Roussel was hired beacause he is an instigator who throws teams off with big hits , crashing the goalie and chirping . Again never seen Granlund play that role but I doubt other teams would be intimidated

Beagle . Well Canucks the ones with the checkbook and roster card feel differently . They offered 12 mil to one and the other one 1 mil

Gaunce? Who gives a sh1t sure replace him.

Leipsic brings energy to the team constant pressure on the other team. Again don't remember seeing that from Granlund

Lets break this down.

Schaller was hired as muscle a fighter. I have never seen Granlund have or win one fight.

Roussel was hired beacause he is an instigator who throws teams off with big hits , crashing the goalie and chirping . Again never seen Granlund play that role but I doubt other teams would be intimidated

Beagle . Well Canucks the ones with the checkbook and roster card feel differently . One they offered 12 mil to one and the other one 1 mil

Gaunce? Who gives a sh1t sure replace him.

Leipsic brings energy to the team constant pressure on the other team. Again don't remember seeing that from Granlund
- VANTEL

Schaller most goals: 12 (82 GP)
Roussel most goals: 14 (81 GP)
Beagle most goals: 13 (81 GP)
Leipsic most goals: 5

Granlund most goals: 19 (69 GP)

We can both cherry-pick stats back and forth if you'd like but you're not going to convince me any of those guys are better overall hockey players. They play specific roles to help the team, sure, and that may be with more money, but Granlund can play middle 6 in an offensive or defensive role, which none of those guys have proven capable of. Leipsic may get there but he hasn't done it yet.

It's not like he doesn't have his shortcomings, obviously I don't think he's perfect, but he shouldn't be benched in favour of all those guys imo.

I also think it's a dangerous precedent to say that because we are paying someone more they should get the ice time. If that were the case LE is one of out 1st line forwards

Gaunce Leipsic Schaller Beagle Roussel Eriksson. Maybe Gagner depending on whether Gagner improves this year.

He is also more consistent than Goldy or JV
- NorthNuck

Dear god.

i'd put Gagner as the 2C before Sutter.
Sutter will play shutdown C like last year.
- dbot

It will be interesting to see who slots in to play 2C. I think he was used on the 4th in Columbus and a PP specialist on the left point. Can Gagner and Pettersson play together? My struggle is figuring who should be on the 2nd line besides Pettersson.

Dear god.
- Marwood

Prove me wrong

Exactly.

Schaller most goals: 12 (82 GP)
Roussel most goals: 14 (81 GP)
Beagle most goals: 13 (81 GP)
Leipsic most goals: 5

Granlund most goals: 19 (69 GP)

We can both cherry-pick stats back and forth if you'd like but you're not going to convince me any of those guys are better overall hockey players. They play specific roles to help the team, sure, and that may be with more money, but Granlund can play middle 6 in an offensive or defensive role, which none of those guys have proven capable of. Leipsic may get there but he hasn't done it yet.

It's not like he doesn't have his shortcomings, obviously I don't think he's perfect, but he shouldn't be benched in favour of all those guys imo.
- NorthNuck

No use discussing if you don;t know the difference between a top 6 and a bottom 6 forward. Granlund scored 8 goals 4 assists as a shut down player last year.

I really hope not. I can see Eriksson playing with EP but I really hope Sutter isn't
- NorthNuck

Your opinion is the common one by Canucks fans but I am not sure it's correct. I could see a line of Loui - Sutter - EP being effective in the short term. Sutter is a garbage play maker but he can skate with EP and has a decent shot. EP is a tremendous playmaker so he can set up Sutter off the rush or wire shots on net where Loui is most useful, crashing the net for junk. Both Sutter and Loui are solid in their own end so they can help insolate EP. At the TDL, trade Sutter and move EP to center with more talented wingers.

As you were.

Your opinion is the common one by Canucks fans but I am not sure it's correct. I could see a line of Loui - Sutter - EP being effective in the short term. Sutte is a garbage play maker but he can skate with EP and has a decent shot. EP is a tremendous playmaker so he can set up Sutter off the rush or wire shots on net where Loui is most useful, crashing the net for junk. Both Sutter and Loui are solid in their own end so they can help insolate EP. At the TDL, trade Sutter and move EP to center with more talented wingers.

As you were.
- CanuckDon

I hope you are correct and that Sutter can bury the passes EP sends his way.

https://www.nucksmiscondu...an-you-off-season-edition

What a great article, about time someone came to tell it like it is, all these so called experts that think they could do a better job...

Now that you all understand General Manager Jim Benning is a genius, I’m sure no comment will be required. Have a serene day.

Love this guy, at first glance when I saw it was written by Tengeresz , I immediately thought of Pres.cups.

No use discussing if you don;t know the difference between a top 6 and a bottom 6 forward. Granlund scored 8 goals 4 assists as a shut down player last year.
- VANTEL

Of course I know the difference. I'm saying he's a swiss army knife, usable as either.

I don't care how many points he scores if he's being used as a shut down. The point of a shut down forward isn't to put up lots of points.

Schaller most goals: 12 (82 GP)
Roussel most goals: 14 (81 GP)
Beagle most goals: 13 (81 GP)
Leipsic most goals: 5

Granlund most goals: 19 (69 GP)

We can both cherry-pick stats back and forth if you'd like but you're not going to convince me any of those guys are better overall hockey players. They play specific roles to help the team, sure, and that may be with more money, but Granlund can play middle 6 in an offensive or defensive role, which none of those guys have proven capable of. Leipsic may get there but he hasn't done it yet.

It's not like he doesn't have his shortcomings, obviously I don't think he's perfect, but he shouldn't be benched in favour of all those guys imo.

I also think it's a dangerous precedent to say that because we are paying someone more they should get the ice time. If that were the case LE is one of out 1st line forwards
- NorthNuck

goal totals per season should never be used as a benchmark for a players success. Goals and points are the easiest eye test to see how well people deem a player is playing, which is why 3rd line centers genuinely don't get the recognition they deserve for being shut down players.

Your opinion is the common one by Canucks fans but I am not sure it's correct. I could see a line of Loui - Sutter - EP being effective in the short term. Sutter is a garbage play maker but he can skate with EP and has a decent shot. EP is a tremendous playmaker so he can set up Sutter off the rush or wire shots on net where Loui is most useful, crashing the net for junk. Both Sutter and Loui are solid in their own end so they can help insolate EP. At the TDL, trade Sutter and move EP to center with more talented wingers.

As you were.
- CanuckDon

Both can teach Defensive responsibility at the NHL level. This goes for the argument f sheltering young players.

goal totals per season should never be used as a benchmark for a players success. Goals and points are the easiest eye test to see how well people deem a player is playing, which is why 3rd line centers genuinely don't get the recognition they deserve for being shut down players.
- Codes1087

Nor should number of fights but that was part of the argument I was combating. Like I said, cherry-picked stats.

As a pure hockey player, I see Granlund as the superior player, despite the fact that the others may have intangibles that he does not.

Of course I know the difference. I'm saying he's a swiss army knife, usable as either.

I don't care how many points he scores if he's being used as a shut down. The point of a shut down forward isn't to put up lots of points.
- NorthNuck

The only way he score close to 19 again is he plays top 6 so where does he slot in? Canucks hired him as a Swiss army knife . A number 13 forward to fill holes when needed

The only way he score close to 19 again is he plays top 6 so where does he slot in? Canucks hired him as a Swiss army knife . A number 13 forward to fill holes when needed
- VANTEL

The only way he score close to 19 again is he plays top 6 so where does he slot in? Canucks hired him as a Swiss army knife . A number 13 forward to fill holes when needed
- VANTEL

I get the thought behind what you're saying, and I won't be shocked to see the Canucks use him that way. An extra guy who can slot in anywhere and play pretty well.

I happen to think he is better than several players on the team though, but I'm sure we'll be told those guys are better to have out because they are good at faceoffs or fighting or poop-talking the other team.

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Outside of L1 its anyone's guess. I expect some moves to happen before puck drop, but I guess it looks like:

Baertschi - Horvat - Boeser
Eriksson - Sutter - Pettersson
Roussel - Beagle - Virtanen
Schaller - Granlund - Gagner
Leipsic

I hope you are correct and that Sutter can bury the passes EP sends his way.
- NorthNuck

I am not sure it will work but it's worth a look. I can see the logic behind it. The team will suck so plenty of time to juggle lines and find the best fit.