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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
I am not sure it will work but it's worth a look. I can see the logic behind it. The team will suck so plenty of time to juggle lines and find the best fit.
- CanuckDon

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jul 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
Nor should number of fights but that was part of the argument I was combating. Like I said, cherry-picked stats.

As a pure hockey player, I see Granlund as the superior player, despite the fact that the others may have intangibles that he does not.

- NorthNuck


Granlund is being utilized so much like Hansen was when he was here. I am not sold on Granlund being anything more than a 3rd or 4th line winger/centre. If the Sedins can make Anson Carter/Burrows/Hansen look good on paper, I am not sure Granlund should be looked at any differently.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:29 PM ET
I am not sure it will work but it's worth a look. I can see the logic behind it. The team will suck so plenty of time to juggle lines and find the best fit.
- CanuckDon

It's true. Lots of experimenting to be done this year.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
Granlund is being utilized so much like Hansen was when he was here. I am not sold on Granlund being anything more than a 3rd or 4th line winger/centre. If the Sedins can make Anson Carter/Burrows/Hansen look good on paper, I am not sure Granlund should be looked at any differently.
- Codes1087

I think of Granlund as a 3rd line winger who is versatile enough that he can play up or down depending on what you ask of him. Very similar to Hansen. When Hansen was here I wouldn't have described him as a 13th forward and I don't think many others would.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:30 PM ET
Prove me wrong

Exactly.

- NorthNuck

I doubt that's possible in your world.
Wow.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
Lets break this down.

Schaller was hired as muscle a fighter. I have never seen Granlund have or win one fight.

Roussel was hired beacause he is an instigator who throws teams off with big hits , crashing the goalie and chirping . Again never seen Granlund play that role but I doubt other teams would be intimidated

Beagle . Well Canucks the ones with the checkbook and roster card feel differently . They offered 12 mil to one and the other one 1 mil

Gaunce? Who gives a sh1t sure replace him.

Leipsic brings energy to the team constant pressure on the other team. Again don't remember seeing that from Granlund

- VANTEL


I think you're going to be disappointed.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:32 PM ET
I doubt that's possible in your world.
Wow.

- Marwood

I always listen to and respect others opinions man, I'm just not hearing anything to convince me on this.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jul 9 @ 6:35 PM ET
I think you're going to be disappointed.
- belcherbd

He can fight, check and contribute on the score sheet. I doubt anyone is disapointed with Schaller. He isn't a heavyweight but that's not what any team needs.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
DUDE

Sven is not a first line LHW
Stecher is not a top line RHD
Bo is not a number 1 C
Gagner is not a top 6 forward
MDZ is not a #4 D
Granlund is not a top 6 forward
Pouliot is not a top 4 D
Sutter is not a top 2 C


You draw the line in the sand at Beagle

- VANTEL

tell it like it is.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 9 @ 6:38 PM ET
https://www.nucksmisconduct.com/2018/7/8/17546582/the-apologist-benning-is-smarter-than-you-off-season-edition

What a great article, about time someone came to tell it like it is, all these so called experts that think they could do a better job...

Now that you all understand General Manager Jim Benning is a genius, I’m sure no comment will be required. Have a serene day.

Love this guy, at first glance when I saw it was written by Tengeresz , I immediately thought of Pres.cups.

- Makita

Smartest man in hockey.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jul 9 @ 6:39 PM ET
You can hope not but we don't have scoring forwards. Limited options
- VANTEL


We don’t have playmaking C’s more like it
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:41 PM ET
I always listen to and respect others opinions man, I'm just not hearing anything to convince me on this.
- NorthNuck

My bad. I read your original comment wrong. I thought you were saying those players were better than Granlund.
Again, my bad.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:42 PM ET
I always listen to and respect others opinions man, I'm just not hearing anything to convince me on this.
- NorthNuck


Granlund fluked into 19 goals and wasn't very effective as a checker. He's the definition of a tweener. On a team that isn't made up of 80% bottom 6 players, he has a role but the players he's better than now (Liepsic, Goldobin, Virtanen) have more upside and the other bottom 6 guys are better role players (gritty, shutdown, faceoffs, pk). That leaves him needing to outplay Boeser or Baertschi for a top 6 spot.

If we could move Eriksson, I could see a role for him perhaps...
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:42 PM ET
I think you're going to be disappointed.
- belcherbd


Don't confuse goon with a guy that will not hesitate to fight
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:43 PM ET
My bad. I read your original comment wrong. I thought you were saying those players were better than Granlund.
Again, my bad.

- Marwood

No worries
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:43 PM ET
He can fight, check and contribute on the score sheet. I doubt anyone is disapointed with Schaller. He isn't a heavyweight but that's not what any team needs.
- CanuckDon


He can fight, but it's not his MO.

He's Gaunce in 5 years.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jul 9 @ 6:43 PM ET
Granlund is being utilized so much like Hansen was when he was here. I am not sold on Granlund being anything more than a 3rd or 4th line winger/centre. If the Sedins can make Anson Carter/Burrows/Hansen look good on paper, I am not sure Granlund should be looked at any differently.
- Codes1087

Very true. Carter and even Burrows didn't produce much off the Sedin line...but Hansen did. Granlund the same produced poorly off the Sedin line. Not sure you can even compare the two. Play a very different game.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:44 PM ET
Nor should number of fights but that was part of the argument I was combating. Like I said, cherry-picked stats.

As a pure hockey player, I see Granlund as the superior player, despite the fact that the others may have intangibles that he does not.

- NorthNuck


Yeah and you guys are the first to scream when a player gets blindsided and the team of pussies don't respond.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
Don't confuse goon with a guy that will not hesitate to fight
- VANTEL


I know he's not a goon, you described him as a muscle, a fighter and he's not.
He's a dependable 4th liner who understands he needs to jump in and punched in the face if his teammates get blown up.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:46 PM ET
I think of Granlund as a 3rd line winger who is versatile enough that he can play up or down depending on what you ask of him. Very similar to Hansen. When Hansen was here I wouldn't have described him as a 13th forward and I don't think many others would.
- NorthNuck



You can consider him the best player in the league if you want but 1 year @1.1 says you are wrong
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jul 9 @ 6:48 PM ET
I know he's not a goon, you described him as a muscle, a fighter and he's not.
He's a dependable 4th liner who understands he needs to jump in and punched in the face if his teammates get blown up.

- belcherbd



He can fight . He won't back down. The day of the goon is pretty well over . Just a handful left.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:49 PM ET
Granlund fluked into 19 goals and wasn't very effective as a checker. He's the definition of a tweener. On a team that isn't made up of 80% bottom 6 players, he has a role but the players he's better than now (Liepsic, Goldobin, Virtanen) have more upside and the other bottom 6 guys are better role players (gritty, shutdown, faceoffs, pk). That leaves him needing to outplay Boeser or Baertschi for a top 6 spot.

If we could move Eriksson, I could see a role for him perhaps...

- belcherbd

Well yeah, in an ideal world LE is not on the team. I do think Granlund will get pushed out by circumstances but i was making a case for him being better than the guys I listed.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 9 @ 6:49 PM ET
He can fight . He won't back down. The day of the goon is pretty well over . Just a handful left.
- VANTEL


Yup, still need intimidating players though, I hope he brings some hitting and forecheck.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jul 9 @ 6:49 PM ET
Smartest man in hockey pajamas.
- thundachunk

Fixed
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jul 9 @ 6:50 PM ET
You can consider him the best player in the league if you want but 1 year @1.1 says you are wrong
- VANTEL

So contract determines how good a player is now?
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