I don't really know much about those other two guys but I'm passing on taking dead weight in Callahan unless a legit blue chip piece is coming back.

Flyers have drafted well and not traded away much of anything since Hextall has taken over. There are starting to be log jams in the developmental depth chart. If we make trades at this point I want quality, not quantity.
- hereticpride

katchouk/Raddysh are legit blue chip prospects. However, I don’t want any more dead weight contracts with whom Hackstol “trusts”. If there is a trade to made, I want players who can contribute now, and long term. Why waste the best years of your core group to help out a rival?

I'm thinking the plan is Elliott and Lyons. I am hoping it's Elliott and Stolarz personally but with Stolarz missing last year makes it doubtful. I just think he has a higher upside.

Guessing Hextall sees how it plays out in camp but I think Neuvy is a train wreck waiting to happen.
- FlyerFan16

The plan as of now is Elliott and Neuvirth, not Lyons.

As much as I don't want Callahan, I'll take Raddysh and a 2nd + a cap dump for Laughton and a 3rd, but they'd have to take Weise at 50%, too.
- jmatchett383

Won't happen. The whole point for them is to clear cap space.

katchouk/Raddysh are legit blue chip prospects. However, I don’t want any more dead weight contracts with whom Hackstol “trusts”. If there is a trade to made, I want players who can contribute now, and long term. Why waste the best years of your core group to help out a rival?
- Hokeeguy9

This is what I was saying the other day. I have to be absolutely blown away to help Tampa land Karlsson. If they get Karlsson I honestly don't know how the Flyers (or most teams) are supposed to compete in the East these next few years of G and Jake's prime. Stamkos, Kucherov, Hedman, Karlsson, Sergachev(maybe they have to give him up in a Karlsson deal tho?) & Vasilevsky. That is just beastly.

Sounds like Detroit might be considering shopping Zetterberg. 3 years left at around 6 mil. Sounds like injuries are a concern.

Not sure if it's even worth kicking the tires on but with our doctor's checking him over and giving a green light I'd throw out an offer of Rubstov and I'd want multiple conditional picks back from Detroit based off how many games Zetterberg plays over the next two seasons. If he holds up, great. If not you get yourself good value on Rubstov in future picks.

Probably not a good idea after typing that all out. Just wondering aloud.

Sounds like Detroit might be considering shopping Zetterberg. 3 years left at around 6 mil. Sounds like injuries are a concern.

Not sure if it's even worth kicking the tires on but with our doctor's checking him over and giving a green light I'd throw out an offer of Rubstov and I'd want multiple conditional picks back from Detroit based off how many games Zetterberg plays over the next two seasons. If he holds up, great. If not you get yourself good value on Rubstov in future picks.

Probably not a good idea after typing that all out. Just wondering aloud.
- hereticpride

They better be very good conditional picks. Why would Detroit who needs high picks give them away? Why would we trade Rubtsov for Zetterberg and his 6M cap hit. What is he 38?

The plan as of now is Elliott and Neuvirth, not Lyons.
- MJL

"Darn i am never going to win a SC with these 2 old made of glass bozos"

Karlsson

Sounds like Detroit might be considering shopping Zetterberg. 3 years left at around 6 mil. Sounds like injuries are a concern.

Not sure if it's even worth kicking the tires on but with our doctor's checking him over and giving a green light I'd throw out an offer of Rubstov and I'd want multiple conditional picks back from Detroit based off how many games Zetterberg plays over the next two seasons. If he holds up, great. If not you get yourself good value on Rubstov in future picks.

Probably not a good idea after typing that all out. Just wondering aloud.
- hereticpride

I know Detroit wants some cap space, but a big part of a deal would be some value for taking that space. Sure Zetterberg has had a storied career, but I don't care about his past right now.

If Flyers are trading a valued prospect, I'd rather have Nyquist knowing he has 1 year left and looking for a reasonable extension before Zetts.

EDIT:
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Nyquist-Simmonds
Weal-Laughton-Raffl
Leier
Vecchione


Trash Bin: Weise, Lehtera

Now that would be sexy...don't look at the goaltenders...

Ok.

It’s Lyon not Lyons.

Jesus Christ almighty.

I know Detroit wants some cap space, but a big part of a deal would be some value for taking that space. Sure Zetterberg has had a storied career, but I don't care about his past right now.

If Flyers are trading a valued prospect, I'd rather have Nyquist knowing he has 1 year left and looking for a reasonable extension before Zetts.

EDIT:
Giroux-Couturier-Konecny
JvR-Patrick-Voracek
Lindblom-Nyquist-Simmonds
Weal-Laughton-Raffl
Leier
Vecchione


Trash Bin: Weise, Lehtera

Now that would be sexy...don't look at the goaltenders...
- Glak18

Nyquist doesn't play center

katchouk/Raddysh are legit blue chip prospects. However, I don’t want any more dead weight contracts with whom Hackstol “trusts”. If there is a trade to made, I want players who can contribute now, and long term. Why waste the best years of your core group to help out a rival?
- Hokeeguy9

I would take callahan paired with one their top prospects without hesitation. Tampa may win a 2 cups the next 3 years but will have trouble filling the roster after see Pittsburgh

Nyquist doesn't play center
- Mordecai

Does so.

Stats, stats, stats...


Kind of like Gilbert Dionne 100+ points. Awesome NHL player.
- Glak18

Sure, you're right. Raddysh is already a total bust despite being a top player in the WJC.

Ok.

It’s Lyon not Lyons.

Jesus Christ almighty.
- flyer_nutter

They better be very good conditional picks. Why would Detroit who needs high picks give them away? Why would we trade Rubtsov for Zetterberg and his 6M cap hit. What is he 38?
- MJL

Yeah, just a thought.

The more I think about it it would likely just end up like a Vinny situation. Healthy enough to play but probably too broken down to contribute.

Does so.
- Glak18

????

he's listed as a RW everywhere

Yeah, just a thought.

The more I think about it it would likely just end up like a Vinny situation. Healthy enough to play but probably too broken down to contribute.
- hereticpride

I wouldn't take a cap dump over 2 years. And it would have to come with a top pick or prospect

Sure, you're right. Raddysh is already a total bust despite being a top player in the WJC.
- jmatchett383

Why do people in society do this? Why is everything The BEST ever or Sucks complete balls?

Like I said, good prospects...NOT bad. Players that score a lot in the CHL ALWAYS become superstars.

Pssst...this past year how many years have they played in juniors. 4 years, makes a big difference. Does that mean they suck, no, but the Flyers already have a bunch of prospects in the same boat and some better.

Why do people in society do this? Why is everything The BEST ever or Sucks complete balls?

Like I said, good prospects...NOT bad. Players that score a lot in the CHL ALWAYS become superstars.

Pssst...this past year how many years have they played in juniors. 4 years, makes a big difference. Does that mean they suck, no, but the Flyers already have a bunch of prospects in the same boat and some better.
- Glak18

That's fine, but you said the only reason they were mentioned were because they played with Frost, while the truth is that, after Foote who would go in an EK deal, they're TB's best prospects, and 2 very highly-regarded ones.

But as you so non-overreactingly implied, I'm sure they'll both be no better than Gilbert Dionne.

The plan as of now is Elliott and Neuvirth, not Lyons.
- MJL

Publicly. Of course I have no basis for my feelings..... maybe it's not a feeling and just wishful thinking.

Ok.

It’s Lyon not Lyons.

Jesus Christ almighty.
- flyer_nutter

My bad. I apologize. I should know better. I will never let it happen again.

EDIT: It's also Hagg, not Haag.

My bad. I apologize. I should know better. I will never let it happen again.

EDIT: It's also Hagg, not Haag.
- FlyerFan16

Actually it’s Hägg

Actually it’s Hägg
- funmaster18

Yup, don't know off the top of my head how to do that and too lazy to look it up.

Yeah, just a thought.

The more I think about it it would likely just end up like a Vinny situation. Healthy enough to play but probably too broken down to contribute.
- hereticpride

Well Zetterberg can check but giving up Rubtsov doesn't add up to me,

Publicly. Of course I have no basis for my feelings..... maybe it's not a feeling and just wishful thinking.
- FlyerFan16

Publicly, privately, whatever you want to call it.