A little bit, yeah. Not lighting the world on fire - 5 goals in 32 NHL games. But he’s only 21

I take it you think he’s too valuable to use in a salary dump deal?

Washington had to cough up Grubauer in order to dump Orpik. I’d argue that Grubauer is more valuable than Roslovic, and I’d also argue that Kulikov is a worse player than Orpik

Just my two cents though. What do you think it would cost to offload Kulikov?
- AxlRose91

I expect that we keep Kulikov. We don't have much depth at LD. Roslovic has big upside. Wait and see.....

You're very small-minded.
- Streit2ThePoint

Yet his manhood is enormous.

Gardiner, zietsev, carrek, sparks And leivo

For

Trouba and Meyers
- BrainSap

I'd say Myers and Dano for Gardiner and Leivo makes sense.

Seems like all four could use a fresh start.

I expect that we keep Kulikov. We don't have much depth at LD. Roslovic has big upside. Wait and see.....
- bennythehat

Agree Benny on Roslovic. 97 AHL games, 28 g, 55 a, 83 pts at the tender age of 21, fitness freak, I will hold on to our "mid level" prospect as one poster states.

I have watched Roslovic play in the "A" quite a bit and he was a treat to watch. He sees the ice, will carry the puck through traffic as his head is up, knows where everyone is on the ice and worked well with Connor while Connor was there. Smooth coming up the ice. Reminded me very much another very famous center now retired which I will not draw a comparable today but I did a couple of years back.

Suggesting he be included in a salary dump is pure insanity.

Agree Benny on Roslovic. 97 AHL games, 28 g, 55 a, 83 pts at the tender age of 21, fitness freak, I will hold on to our "mid level" prospect as one poster states.

I have watched Roslovic play in the "A" quite a bit and he was a treat to watch. He sees the ice, will carry the puck through traffic as his head is up, knows where everyone is on the ice and worked well with Connor while Connor was there. Smooth coming up the ice. Reminded me very much another very famous center now retired which I will not draw a comparable today but I did a couple of years back.

Suggesting he be included in a salary dump is pure insanity.
- CharlieDog

I agree, Rosy looks very promising. His immediate success will ultimately be determined by how quickly his defensive game progresses. He’s a smart & dedicated kid though, so I think/hope that he will pick it up very quickly. We just have to pair him with guys that are responsible in their own end and also have offensive skill, which is tricky with our top 6, as Ehlers, Laine & Connor are not currently very good in our own end

How is Rosy in the face-off circle?

Agree Benny on Roslovic. 97 AHL games, 28 g, 55 a, 83 pts at the tender age of 21, fitness freak, I will hold on to our "mid level" prospect as one poster states.

I have watched Roslovic play in the "A" quite a bit and he was a treat to watch. He sees the ice, will carry the puck through traffic as his head is up, knows where everyone is on the ice and worked well with Connor while Connor was there. Smooth coming up the ice. Reminded me very much another very famous center now retired which I will not draw a comparable today but I did a couple of years back.

Suggesting he be included in a salary dump is pure insanity.
- CharlieDog

Hahahahaha....”insanity”

Kinda dramatic, no? I like your passion though, slugger

A little bit, yeah. Not lighting the world on fire - 5 goals in 32 NHL games. But he’s only 21

I take it you think he’s too valuable to use in a salary dump deal?

Washington had to cough up Grubauer in order to dump Orpik. I’d argue that Grubauer is more valuable than Roslovic, and I’d also argue that Kulikov is a worse player than Orpik

Just my two cents though. What do you think it would cost to offload Kulikov?
- AxlRose91

jets fans are really excited about Roslovic, he is going to be very good. I think the cost of unloading a bad contract is always over rated but no way the jets would ever consider Roslovic . Kulikov can be bought out in a year or add a 2nd rounder to unload him if necessary, nothing more.

Gardiner, zietsev, carrek, sparks And leivo

For

Trouba and Meyers
- BrainSap

Trouba is fantastic and under rated outside Winnipeg, think what the cost for someone to acquire Riley off the Leafs would be and use that as a gusher.

Yikes, that is a big contract for a goalie with a short track record!

He was really good last year and if he can stay at that level he will be worth it. But sometimes goalies get figured out after a couple good years. Term and dollars both seem too high. A shorter 3 year $3.75 deal like Matt Murray's would have made more sense.
- MacPatty

I agree. For a goalie, consistency is key and he was very inconsistent in the playoffs and during stretches in the 2nd half of season. Teams seem to read him and prepare for him better. Hopefully, he continually progresses and gets better. My major concern with Helly is that when he is off, it’s clear as day right from puck drop. His rebound control is not good and he starts dropping down way before the shot or pass. Teams started picking up on these tendencies and began shooting high blocker or faking the shot and passing off. That being said, when he is on his game, he’s great, as he is positionally sound, good timing / reading the play and overall quiet and relaxed. It’s a big contract for a 1-yr solid regular season performance.

The Caps were very much regretting the contract they gave to Holtby (didn’t even start playoffs), however, he has now proven he is solid in the playoffs.

I truly hope this works out, only time will tell.

Gardiner is trash. There was a replay on TV the other day of the Bruins Game 7 playoff comeback, and do you know who was way out of position for the game winning goal? (frank)in Gardiner.

I wouldn't want him anywhere near the ice during the playoffs. As everyone witnessed during this years playoffs, he's a turnover machine that's always out of position. Good luck winning with that guy!!
- Razzdazzle1

Oh yeah, a few bad plays makes him a bad player. Man you must hate your entire team last yeah and think they suck cause they made a lot of bad plays.

I'd say Myers and Dano for Gardiner and Leivo makes sense.

Seems like all four could use a fresh start.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

This is a solid trade. Dano is better than Leivo by about the same amount that’s Gardiner is better than Myers. Even. Unfortunately, and this is knowing Maurice, it likely buries Leivo again

jets fans are really excited about Roslovic, he is going to be very good. I think the cost of unloading a bad contract is always over rated but no way the jets would ever consider Roslovic . Kulikov can be bought out in a year or add a 2nd rounder to unload him if necessary, nothing more.
- Ross77

I'll just add my post at the end of the last thread regarding Roslovic and his place in the lineup since it was likely missed with the Helle signing.

That was part of the thinking for this line-up. Do you remember the success that Scheifele had with Laine and Ehlers in 2016-17? Anybody?......
- liverpoolnhl

I remember it vividly. That's the reason that line always remains in the conversation.
The third and fourth lines are solid as well. Petan does not belong on a fourth line so playing with guys like Perreault and Little offers him the offensive upside he deserves and both are able to cover for him defensively ( which in the past has been his real weakness). The only question mark in your lines is Roslovic and whether he is 100% ready for a second line center role and the huge responsibilities that come with it. The one good thing about Roslovic is that when it comes to fitness he comes from the Scheifele model and maybe with the exception of Shief , he is almost in another league fitness wise. That bodes well for his ability to be able to handle that center role and cover off a NHL league that is full of very fit centers.

This is a solid trade. Dano is better than Leivo by about the same amount that’s Gardiner is better than Myers. Even. Unfortunately, and this is knowing Maurice, it likely buries Leivo again
- Rexypoo

Not a solid trade for the Leafs. Gardiner is better then Myers....just what the Leafs need to do, get worse on defense. Also, the Leafs dont need Dano.

Great deal if he continues to play like he did this past season. In fact its a bargain in that light.

This is actually a pretty good deal for the Jets. I believe Helle is the real deal and locking him down for 6 yrs at 6 MM is going to look very wise in a quickly expanding salary cap era. A few years from now we will look at this like we do at the Scheif signing. Other top goalies have and will be at much higher levels. His RFA status is what kept our numbers for him from getting out of hand vs a few others. Heck , Price is $10 MM per year and been quite injury prone. I'd rather have Helle.

We got a deal ! Well Done Chevy.

This is actually a pretty good deal for the Jets. I believe Helle is the real deal and locking him down for 6 yrs at 6 MM is going to look very wise in a quickly expanding salary cap era. A few years from now we will look at this like we do at the Scheif signing. Other top goalies have and will be at much higher levels. His RFA status is what kept our numbers for him from getting out of hand vs a few others. Heck , Price is $10 MM per year and been quite injury prone. I'd rather have Helle.

We got a deal ! Well Done Chevy.
- jetsnation

I honestly thought it was a bit more then they should have paid considering he was an RFA, thought it should have been about a million less, but thats how the market has gone recently. If he plays like he did last year, no one will care about that extra million.

Not a solid trade for the Leafs. Gardiner is better then Myers....just what the Leafs need to do, get worse on defense. Also, the Leafs dont need Dano.
- Archaic

Nobody needs Dano.

Interesting that Brossoit has the same coach as Helle.
- CharlieDog

Yes, Charlie. Good catch !

It's helpful that Brossoit is working alongside Helle. Francilia mind you is more of a fitness coach rather than a goalie coach. A lot of work on core strength, balance (Eloda method), and sequencing, etc. Myers uses him as well so it's not just goalies.

Nobody needs Dano.
- bennythehat

Not true. There might be some AHL teams that could use him on their checking lines once he ends up with a two-way contract.

His filing for arbitration though is quite laughable. One too many hits to the head ?

#TooMuch

Not true. There might be some AHL teams that could use him on their checking lines once he ends up with a two-way contract.

His filing for arbitration though is quite laughable. One too many hits to the head ?
- jetsnation

With Petan, I see an upside. He does have talent and smarts. I just don't see much of anything with Dano. Guys like him are a dime a dozen.

Hahahahaha....”insanity”

Kinda dramatic, no? I like your passion though, slugger
- AxlRose91

I don't think it is dramatic. Your initial suggestion was without much of any thought or knowledge of the prospect of Roslovic, the left side D or how the Wpg GM works. Still stands as a dumb suggestion.

I'd say Myers and Dano for Gardiner and Leivo makes sense.

Seems like all four could use a fresh start.
- Byfuglien Ate Me

Myers does not need a fresh start. He played great Byfuglien Ate Me.

I really like this contract. I would love it more if they hired his off-season coach as the Jets full-time goalie coach. It appeared that the more time Hellebuyck spent with Flaherty, his game went south.

I don't think it is dramatic. Your initial suggestion was without much of any thought or knowledge of the prospect of Roslovic, the left side D or how the Wpg GM works. Still stands as a dumb suggestion.
- CharlieDog

Speaking of dumb, was this comment written in English?

I'll just add my post at the end of the last thread regarding Roslovic and his place in the lineup since it was likely missed with the Helle signing.



I remember it vividly. That's the reason that line always remains in the conversation.
The third and fourth lines are solid as well. Petan does not belong on a fourth line so playing with guys like Perreault and Little offers him the offensive upside he deserves and both are able to cover for him defensively ( which in the past has been his real weakness). The only question mark in your lines is Roslovic and whether he is 100% ready for a second line center role and the huge responsibilities that come with it. The one good thing about Roslovic is that when it comes to fitness he comes from the Scheifele model and maybe with the exception of Shief , he is almost in another league fitness wise. That bodes well for his ability to be able to handle that center role and cover off a NHL league that is full of very fit centers.
- jetsnation

If Roslovic doesn't quite work centering Connor and Wheeler to start the season Little can slide in and Perreault-Connor/Petan-Petan/Connor can be the 3rd line. Little and Wheeler have definitely had chemistry in the past.
I find myself pumping Connor's tires based on what I thought I saw at the end of the year and playoffs. His anticipation and positioning seemed to place the puck on his stick quite frequently and it generally didn't leave until he wanted it to......