- Steven_Seagull

aweee.. gullsie...

im sorry bahd.

aweee.. gullsie...

im sorry bahd.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Stay classy, jerk.

Enjoy your ban.
- Steven_Seagull

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most/all people here would agree with me.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say most/all people here would agree with me.
- GreatGigInTheSky

Probably.


I was talking more about the gif containing inappropriate language.

Stay classy, jerk.





- Steven_Seagull

hot

Probably.


I was talking more about the gif containing inappropriate language.
- Steven_Seagull

The ol subtle n bomb drop maneuver...as off-putting as always. Over/under on ban length?

The ol subtle n bomb drop maneuver...as off-putting as always. Over/under on ban length?
- cnatch

3 months if I had any say. Because I don’t...probably will get away with it...like Marchand.

hot
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Quoting this from the last blog.

Where do ppl find stats like that? Icing's and what not. Lol
- LeafGuy89

Rob Vollman at Hockey Abstract has done a wonderful job of compiling stats from numerous sources into singular downloadable tables for skaters and goalies.

http://www.hockeyabstract.com/testimonials

3 months if I had any say. Because I don’t...probably will get away with it...like Marchand.
- Steven_Seagull

*runs in circles*

you didn't have to switch accounts to support yourself pen15.
- The Deal Man

or maybe I’m not the only one with a rational thought, albeit rare around these parts.

When it comes to EK, you (along with UG), seem to be the only turds that think landing him would be a good idea. Do you have some kind of great insight that EK will start trending up after 2 seasons in steady decline? Never once said Garinder is better, but the comparison of their most recent season is telling, even if your hard on for EK is blinding you from the truth. And in terms of comparing latest 1 year results being asinine, last I checked that’s a strong benchmark of how contracts get negotiated in the NHL.

avoid using sexuality slurs Pen15

or maybe I’m not the only one with a rational thought, albeit rare around these parts.

When it comes to EK, you (along with UG), seem to be the only turds that think landing him would be a good idea. Do you have some kind of great insight that EK will start trending up after 2 seasons in steady decline? Never once said Garinder is better, but the comparison of their most recent season is telling, even if your gay hard on for EK is blinding you from the truth. And in terms of comparing latest 1 year results being asinine, last I checked that’s a strong benchmark of how contracts get negotiated in the NHL.
- Pen15

I think using a down year for Karlsson, in which his team was hot garbage, he had recently had surgery on his foot, and he had to deal with the loss of his unborn child and his wife suffering from online harassment about said child, as your only data to prove he is only slightly better than Gardiner is a bit misguided.

Maybe Karlsson will never get back to his old self after his injury and we're looking at the new him. I don't know enough about that injury and his recent play to make that guess, but I'm not sure why you seem so confident he won't return to the old almost ppg Karlsson he's been for several years.

If this last year is actually what his play will be like going forward, then yes, he's arguably only slightly better than Gardiner, but if he bounces back to his old self, he's significantly better than Gardiner will ever be.

P.S. checking the stats I see EK also only played 71 games this year, or he'd have more than just the 62 points he had in a down year (which is still 10 points more than Gardiner got in a full 82 game season in his best year to date). So really, even this year, Karlsson is still significantly better than Gards.

If he'd played a full season he'd have likely scored over 70 points. Doing the math of his ppg % and calculating for 82 games it rounds up to 72 points.

For the knobs (UG) suggesting Karlsson to the Leafs in exchage for Nylander +++

I hope you (UG) realize that statistically Karlsson is just a step above Gardiner. About 10 points more offence total with 17% more ice time. Perhaps worse in the defensive zone than Gardiner - and that's saying a lot.

Forget about the fact that Dubas is on record as saying the young core (of which Nylander is a part of) isn't going anywhere; if you were to trade him for a Dman it would make a hell of a lot more sense to trade him for a guy that knows how to play in his own zone.

And just to put a cherry on top of this incredible nonsense, I wonder what the cap situation will look like when you have 3 guys making $+10MM AAV and one other (Marner) close to it in a year.
- Pen15

avoid using sexuality slurs Pen15
- Dozzer

Look at his name. Goes with the territory.

I think using a down year for Karlsson, in which his team was hot garbage, he had recently had surgery on his foot, and he had to deal with the loss of his unborn child and his wife suffering from online harassment about said child, as your only data to prove he is only slightly better than Gardiner is a bit misguided.

Maybe Karlsson will never get back to his old self after his injury and we're looking at the new him. I don't know enough about that injury and his recent play to make that guess, but I'm not sure why you seem so confident he won't return to the old almost ppg Karlsson he's been for several years.

If this last year is actually what his play will be like going forward, then yes, he's arguably only slightly better than Gardiner, but if he bounces back to his old self, he's significantly better than Gardiner will ever be.

P.S. checking the stats I see EK also only played 71 games this year, or he'd have more than just the 62 points he had in a down year (which is still 10 points more than Gardiner got in a full 82 game season in his best year to date). So really, even this year, Karlsson is still significantly better than Gards.

If he'd played a full season he'd have likely scored over 70 points. Doing the math of his ppg % and calculating for 82 games it rounds up to 72 points.
- Thecakeisalie

If Karlsson, at his worst, puts up 62 points (still more than Gardiner's career best), what does that tell you? Karlsson, at his worst, is better than Gardiner, just imagine him at his best with three very dangerous forwards to pass to or play off of. Karlsson chewed up the Bruins two years ago, Gardiner collapsed in game 7 by comparison. Gardiner, in his wildest dreams, hopes to be as good as Karlsson already is and has proven he can be. It's not even close. He literally has double the amount of career points for (frank) sakes.

If Karlsson, at his worst, puts up 62 points, what does that tell you? Karlsson, at his worst, is better than Gardiner, just imagine him at his best with three very dangerous forwards to pass to or play off of. Karlsson chewed up the Bruins two years ago, Gardiner collapsed in game 7 by comparison. Gardiner, in his wildest dreams, hopes to be as good as Karlsson already is and has proven he can be. It's not even close.
- Unholy_Goalie

Agreed. I do like Gardiner and think he's got great offensive instincts (although both Gards and EK have deficiencies on the defensive side of things), but he's a significant step down from Karlsson.

Agreed. I do like Gardiner and think he's got great offensive instincts (although both Gards and EK have deficiencies on the defensive side of things), but he's a significant step down from Karlsson.
- Thecakeisalie

He literally has more than double the amount of career points for (frank) sakes. And they're the exact same age too.

Gardiner isn't even a top pairing D, much less a Norris calibre D. It's laughable to even put them in the same sentence.

He literally has more than double the amount of career points for (frank) sakes. And they're the exact same age too.

Gardiner isn't even a top pairing D, much less a Norris calibre D. It's laughable to even put them in the same sentence.
- Unholy_Goalie

Can't afford Karlsson..

Can't afford Karlsson..
- Puck-us-all

Bullpoop.

Gardiner and Hainsey come off the books next year (7 million combined). Add that to the 6.5 Karlsson would make this year, he fits perfectly. Subtract the money Nylander is likely to make (6-7 million). Consider that Marleau may retire next year, that clears more space (6.25 million). Horton's 5.3 million can be put on the LTIR.

There's always space for a player like Karlsson. Always. If Tampa Bay can move 1 or 2 guys and fit Karlsson, the Leafs sure as hell can too.

Bullpoop.

Gardiner and Hainsey come off the books next year (7 million combined). Add that to the 6.5 Karlsson would make this year, he fits perfectly. Subtract the money Nylander is likely to make (Another 7 million). Consider that Marleau may retire next year, that clears more space (6.25 million). Horton's 5.3 million can be put on the LTIR.

There's always space for a player like Karlsson. Always. If Tampa Bay can move 1 or 2 guys and fit Karlsson, the Leafs sure as hell can too.
- Unholy_Goalie

Funny if nylander puts up more points than karlsson next year

- Steven_Seagull

This trash chicken is looking at me funny...

Karlsson probably won't be the pre ankle injury player he was ever again. I think the team that pays for him will regret it.

Funny if nylander puts up more points than karlsson next year
- Puck-us-all

Not really because Karlsson plays defense and what he brings to the team is completely different (and more necessary) than Nylander.

We're talking about a guy who has been deemed the best defenseman in the NHL (twice). You see Nylander winning an MVP any time soon? Probably not.

Karlsson probably won't be the pre ankle injury player he was ever again. I think the team that pays for him will regret it.
- BetterCallSaul

Couldn't agree more....