You really are desperate for me to "disappear" just so it seems like your poopty argument has any legs to stand on. That's twice you've said this and both times tasted your foot.
- Unholy_Goalie

We honestly don't give a (frank) on whether you are here or not, we just want you to quit poopting all over the threads. Which you refuse to do. It's so sad because you are always so terribly wrong, yet you keep insisting that you are right even when proven otherwise.

Adding Karlsson is just a bad, bad idea. Exactly like signing Vermette was.

Answer the question Nikki. How many teams in the history of the salary cap have dedicated over half their salary to 4 players?
- Pen15

Your valuation of what Marner will get also sucks. Kucherov just got 9.5 AAV after leading the league for most of the year in scoring. Marner isn't getting 9. And if the Leafs got Karlsson in a trade, they could extend him for 8 years which could lower his cap hit to 10 AAV, especially if they give him the signing bonuses he wants that Ottawa won't give him. Same with Matthews. This idea that he's going to get 11 AAV right away without earning it is also asinine. Not to mention the cap goes up every year so the percentage of the total cap they take up will lower over time, as it always has before.

It was only 3 years ago (2014/2015) that the cap was 69 million. Now it's 79 million. I know your mathematics skills are fairly rudimentary but that's 10 million dollars in cap space in 3 years. What a little cute number. It's almost as if the Leafs could fit a 10-11 million dollar player with that amount.

We honestly don't give a (frank) on whether you are here or not, we just want you to quit poopting all over the threads. Which you refuse to do. It's so sad because you are always so terribly wrong, yet you keep insisting that you are right even when proven otherwise.

Adding Karlsson is just a bad, bad idea.
- TrashPanda

Well, better hope Tampa Bay can't figure out a way to fit him otherwise goodluck beating Hedman, Karlsson, McDonagh, Stamkos, Kucherov and Vasilevskiy. Damn, it's almost like they have more cap space than the Leafs do. So unfair.

Your valuation of what Marner will get also sucks. Kucherov just got 9.5 AAV after leading the league for most of the year in scoring. Marner isn't getting 9. And if the Leafs got Karlsson in a trade, they could extend him for 8 years which could lower his cap hit to 10 AAV, especially if they give him the signing bonuses he wants that Ottawa won't give him. Same with Matthews. This idea that he's going to get 11 AAV right away without earning it is also asinine. Not to mention the cap goes up every year so the percentage of the total cap they take up will lower over time, as it always has before.

It was only 3 years ago that the cap was 69 million. Now it's 79 million. I know your mathematics skills are fairly rudimentary but that's 10 million dollars in cap space in 3 years. What a little cute number. It's almost as if the Leafs could fit a 10-11 million dollar player with that amount.
- Unholy_Goalie

Total moron.

32 million in cap space next year. It's not a problem. Stop pretending like adding another great player is a bad thing.

Your valuation of what Marner will get also sucks. Kucherov just got 9.5 AAV after leading the league in scoring. Marner isn't getting 9. And if the Leafs got Karlsson in a trade, they could extend him for 8 years which could lower his cap hit to 10 a year, especially if they give him the signing bonuses he wants that Ottawa won't give him. Same with Matthews. This idea that he's going to get 11 AAV right away without earning it is also asinine. Not to mention the cap goes up every year so the percentage of the total cap they take up will lower over time, as it always has before. It was only 3 years ago that the cap was 69 million. Now it's 79 million.
- Unholy_Goalie

So Mathews won’t get JT money and I’m overvaluing Marner? And we’ll be able to sign Karlsson for less than $11.

All this verbal diarihea because you couldnt answer my simple question that no team has ever committed over half their cap to 4 players.

Well, better hope Tampa Bay can't figure out a way to fit him otherwise goodluck beating Hedman, Karlsson, McDonagh, Stamkos, Kucherov and Vasilevskiy. Damn, it's almost like they have more cap space than the Leafs do. So unfair.
- Unholy_Goalie

*lower taxes

funny thing is, you could all just ignore UG and he would probably go away.

but you don't. You engage with him because you need to feed your inner ego's.

At some point you have to ask yourself if this is his objective. He purposely constructs statements that are meant to be easily debatable.

Maybe he comes here to get off on all of you. You're his kink.

So Mathews won’t get JT money and I’m overvaluing Marner? And we’ll be able to sign Karlsson for less than $11.

All this verbal diarihea because you couldnt answer my simple question that no team has ever committed over half their cap to 4 players.
- Pen15

You're the guy saying Gardiner and Karlsson are comparable but Karlsson will get 11 AAV but Gardiner will stay at 6 AAV.

Diarihea. That's great stuff right there.

funny thing is, you could all just ignore UG and he would probably go away.

but you don't. You engage with him because you need to feed your inner ego's.

At some point you have to ask yourself if this is his objective. He purposely constructs statements that are meant to be easily debatable.

Maybe he comes here to get off on all of you. You're his kink.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Mind

Blown

funny thing is, you could all just ignore UG and he would probably go away.

but you don't. You engage with him because you need to feed your inner ego's.

At some point you have to ask yourself if this is his objective. He purposely constructs statements that are meant to be easily debatable.

Maybe he comes here to get off on all of you. You're his kink.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Now that lums isn't around, I thought that was HOHO's hat?

You're the guy saying Gardiner and Karlsson are comparable but Karlsson will get 11 AAV but Gardiner will stay at 6 AAV.

Diarihea. That's great stuff right there.
- Unholy_Goalie

When taken all in perspective, trying to resign Gardiner makes a hell of a lot more sense than blowing up your future for a guy that’s questionable of ever getting back to where he was.

Great job deflecting the argument though

Now that lums isn't around, I thought that was HOHO's hat?
- TrashPanda

Im pretty sure UG killed Lums...

Sometime during a 20 page debate Lums just said (frank) it, im leaving HB...

The mods will eventually ban him, but they keep him around for the summer to keep the hits up.

funny thing is, you could all just ignore UG and he would probably go away.

but you don't. You engage with him because you need to feed your inner ego's.

At some point you have to ask yourself if this is his objective. He purposely constructs statements that are meant to be easily debatable.

Maybe he comes here to get off on all of you. You're his kink.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

amen



all of your opinions and conjecture suck...

only my trade proposals make sense

and all that without a single minute spent in my mom's basement gaming in the past 20 years.

how do I do it?

When taken all in perspective, trying to resign Gardiner makes a hell of a lot more sense than blowing up your future for a guy that’s questionable of ever getting back to where he was.

Great job deflecting the argument though
- Pen15

And Karlsson's better than all of them. Maybe even combined.
- Unholy_Goalie

Is Karlsson the same after getting half of his ankle bone removed? I know he's been elite for years, but he's starting to show some warts.. Don't get me wrong, even with half an ankle bone he's probably still in the top 5% of NHL defenders.. Just have to be careful with stuff like that.

Is Karlsson the same after getting half of his ankle bone removed? I know he's been elite for years, but he's starting to show some warts.. Don't get me wrong, even with half an ankle bone he's probably still in the top 5% of NHL defenders.. Just have to be careful with stuff like that.
- Gusto

I agree. Which is why you'd have to have team doctors check him out and even bring in a third party too. But if you look at what he did last year, on a poop lottery team, with a teammate harassing his wife about their unborn dead child, no training camp, he still put up huge numbers. Put him behind Tavares, Matthews and Marner with a clean bill of health, odds are he tears it up and gives the Leafs the top pairing RHD they so badly need. And guarantee he doesn't go to Tampa Bay either. Obviously, he'd also have to come with an extension because 1 year of Karlsson wouldn't be worth it at all at that price.

Your valuation of what Marner will get also sucks. Kucherov just got 9.5 AAV after leading the league for most of the year in scoring. Marner isn't getting 9. And if the Leafs got Karlsson in a trade, they could extend him for 8 years which could lower his cap hit to 10 AAV, especially if they give him the signing bonuses he wants that Ottawa won't give him. Same with Matthews. This idea that he's going to get 11 AAV right away without earning it is also asinine. Not to mention the cap goes up every year so the percentage of the total cap they take up will lower over time, as it always has before.

It was only 3 years ago (2014/2015) that the cap was 69 million. Now it's 79 million. I know your mathematics skills are fairly rudimentary but that's 10 million dollars in cap space in 3 years. What a little cute number. It's almost as if the Leafs could fit a 10-11 million dollar player with that amount.
- Unholy_Goalie

The bottleneck in your little plan is the assumption Erik Karlsson would want to sign an extension in Toronto. That would be like Luke picking out a room on the Death Star.

- Unholy_Goalie

Can’t answer a simple question. I feel bad for you Nikki. Your whole life riding the short bus.

The bottleneck in your little plan is the assumption Erik Karlsson would want to sign an extension in Toronto. That would be like Luke picking out a room on the Death Star.
- BetterCallSaul

One thing he wants is a lot of the cash up front in the form of signing bonuses which the Leafs could do easily. Get Salming and Sundin on the job. I don't think he hates the Leafs as much as you think. He has a new found hatred and that's the Senators. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Well, better hope Tampa Bay can't figure out a way to fit him otherwise goodluck beating Hedman, Karlsson, McDonagh, Stamkos, Kucherov and Vasilevskiy. Damn, it's almost like they have more cap space than the Leafs do. So unfair.
- Unholy_Goalie

Yesterday you said Tampa (3mil in space ) wouldn't lose a goal if they tried to add Tavares but Tavares has to replace jvr and bozak goals lost.

Even though bozak and jvr are 2 spots and that means Tavares and someone else replace those 2

We honestly don't give a (frank) on whether you are here or not, we just want you to quit poopting all over the threads. Which you refuse to do. It's so sad because you are always so terribly wrong, yet you keep insisting that you are right even when proven otherwise.

Adding Karlsson is just a bad, bad idea. Exactly like signing Vermette was.
- TrashPanda

Adding another long term contract for $10 million plus at this point is unlikely and probably not even a consideration for Shanny/Pridham/Dubas. Really not worth discussing.

There is a significant trade deadline opportunity to take on expiring contracts though. Depending on which teams are out of the playoff picture at the trade deadline, Leafs could add a significant d-man and a significant forward - if the assets given up would not be ridiculous. The following forwards are all UFA after this season. Some will sign before the deadline, but many will be available,

Forwards:
Jason Spezza DAL
Artemi Panarin CBJ
Matt Duchene OTT
Jordan Eberle NYI
Joe Pavelski SJS
Tyler Seguin DAL
Jeff Skinner CAR
Jason Pominville BUF
Blake Wheeler WPG
Joe Thornton SJS
Derick Brassard PIT
Matt Moulson BUF
Gustav Nyquist DET
Jori Lehtera PHI
Marcus JohanssonNJD
Justin Williams CAR
Max Pacioretty MTL
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen NSH
Adam Henrique ANA
Wayne Simmonds PHI
Colin Wilson COL
Jakob Silfverberg ANA
Anders Lee NYI
Eric Staal MINN

the Leafs are the most popular NHL team in Sweden

thanks to Sundin/Salming.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

True, I’m sure Lidstrom isnt far behind.

The bottleneck in your little plan is the assumption Erik Karlsson would want to sign an extension in Toronto. That would be like Luke picking out a room on the Death Star.
- BetterCallSaul

Yesterday you said Tampa (3mil in space ) wouldn't lose a goal if they tried to add Tavares but Tavares has to replace jvr and bozak goals lost.

Even though bozak and jvr are 2 spots and that means Tavares and someone else replace those 2
- burn

Tavares > Killorn and Callahan

True, I’m sure Lidstrom isnt far behind.
- Garnie

Forsberg too. Do the others have stamp?