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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 8:53 PM ET
This.
- jcragcrumple

I just wish we did a trade to land Z teams are going to regret not picking him
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jul 16 @ 8:55 PM ET
I just wish we did a trade to land Z teams are going to regret not picking him
- gerbe75pts


Absolutely. I would have given up Reinhart, 2019 1st (lottery protected) and McCabe.

I would have gone bonkers for a deal for Svech
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 9:00 PM ET
Absolutely. I would have given up Reinhart, 2019 1st (lottery protected) and McCabe.

I would have gone bonkers for a deal for Svech

- jcragcrumple


I would have done this
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:14 PM ET
I think it's the wording that's getting you tangled. If you said a good prospect, not great, you'd be fine. "Decent" sounds like he may not even make the big leagues, when he's already played in them at 20 yoa.

Middle 6, hopefully can pot 15-20 a season regularly. He's a "good" not "great" prospect. Sorry for nitpicking.

- RhinoFan


Whatever wording u want to choose is semantics

If Thompson has a good year this season,
then I’ll upgrade him accordingly

Idk why ppl would even debate how I’ve lowered expectations after he had a season that didn’t meet expectations?

It’s not like I’m saying something crazy
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:24 PM ET
He's a B+ prospect. You're labeling him a C.

Baptiste had 7 goals in 36 AHL games as a 22 year old. I'm pretty sure you view him as better than a C prospect.

- Lunaion


I never ONCE said “C” prospect
Your interpretation is inaccurate

It’s not hard to decipher what i mean

As far as Baptiste goes...
he is also a really good skater & plays with an edge
So yeah, that would boost him up imo
Thompson has neither of those qualities

To be clear...
Thompson is NOT a “top line” prospect imo
MAYBE a “middle6” guy
But we’ll see how this year goes
If he does well, then I’ll upgrade him

He better be able to “snipe”
Bc his skating is just average

I’m not writing him off...
but he didn’t have a good year last season

Not acknowledging that is weird
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:27 PM ET
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2014e.html

the guy tied for 4th STINKS
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
I never ONCE said “C” prospect
Your interpretation is inaccurate

It’s not hard to decipher what i mean

As far as Baptiste goes...
he is also a really good skater & plays with an edge
So yeah, that would boost him up imo
Thompson has neither of those qualities

To be clear...
Thompson is NOT a “top line” prospect imo
MAYBE a “middle6” guy
But we’ll see how this year goes
If he does well, then I’ll upgrade him

He better be able to “snipe”
Bc his skating is just average

I’m not writing him off...
but he didn’t have a good year last season

Not acknowledging that is weird

- jdfitz77


You called him a 'decent' prospect. That's a C to me. Whatever you consider Baptiste, Thompson is a full grade ahead.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:40 PM ET
Murray doesn't deserve to be villified for Pastranak, but as a scout, he deserves some criticism for Draisaitl
- jcragcrumple



Yeah, Draisaitl, in hindsight, was the pick. Ehlers or Pastrnak are red herrings, no way were they going top 5 even.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 9:42 PM ET
Yeah, Draisaitl, in hindsight, was the pick. Ehlers or Pastrnak are red herrings, no way were they going top 5 even.
- Wetbandit1

Agreed. Hindsight is 20/20 but I don’t remember anyone anywhere saying he was the pick at the time.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:43 PM ET
Agreed. Hindsight is 20/20 but I don’t remember anyone anywhere saying he was the pick at the time.
- TheHank

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Op3OQfm5vSQ
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:47 PM ET
There is 6 players better then him that’s unacceptable
- gerbe75pts


No, there's 1 player better than him that could've even been entertained to be taken at that spot. And I'm not convinced Draisaitl is "ZOMG King Leon" either. It's not Jordan Staal's fault that Giroux is way better than him, and no one is saying that Giroux should've gone 2nd.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:47 PM ET

Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisaitl
pegulaville -Draisaitl
herzeleid - Draisaitl
rover16 - Bennett
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennett
Maximum Signal - Reinhart
evatnorth - Trade
gibby111 - Bennett
Otsegolectric - Draisaitl
Enzomatic - Reinhart
Leninthebuff - Draisaitl
jackoc150 - Bennett
joevthree - Ekblad
Irish 14 - Bennett
jaumiller - Reinhart
homiedclown - Draisaitl *
IonSabres - Bennett
100goalseason - Reinhart
ZemgusTurtlsons - Bennett
Orphen22 - Reinhart
sabresfandan - Reinhart
SabresNHL - Bennett
beargk - Bennett
jochfr - Tits McGee (Reinhart)
Da_Cashman - Reinhart
Khymlev13 - Reinhart
TheSabresTaco - Reinhart
IceColdBeer - Reinhart
IndianaSabresFan - Bennett
Buffalo-Sabres - Bennett
Cheeseballin - Reinhart
HonkFortheGoose - Reinhart
CaptainRivet - Reinhart
Cabin - Reinhart
ImThatGuy - Reinhart
Smittyx36 - Reinhart
Jammerz04 - Reinhart
Homer- Reinhart

**CLOSED**

Honorable Mention:
dadeadhead - Reinhart
mhp - Bennett




https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=118162&page=63
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:49 PM ET
William Nylander gets 11 more points on a cup contender then the skunk on the worst team in the league


IMO minimal difference

- homiedclown


Fair point sir
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
There is 6 players better then him that’s unacceptable
- gerbe75pts


No, there's 1 player better than him that could've even been entertained to be taken at that spot. And I'm not convinced Draisaitl is "ZOMG King Leon" either. It's not Jordan Staal's fault that Giroux is way better than him, and no one is saying that Giroux should've gone 2nd ahead of Staal, except maybe Giroux's mom.

And yes, I know Toews, Backstrom and Kessel went immedaitely after Staal. No draft is the same, I just went back to the last draft where a guy went mid 20's that was better than the first forward taken.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:52 PM ET
Stafford first three years goals per 82 games -21
Reinhart first three years goals per 82 games - 22


Which one has played with Eichel?

- sbroads24


How many goals did the Stafford Sabres teams score? Thought so. It's a hell of a lot easier to score when the opposition has to worry about 3 legit scoring lines than 2 guys on one line.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 9:53 PM ET
Stafford first three years goals per 82 games -21
Reinhart first three years goals per 82 games - 22


Which one has played with Eichel?

- sbroads24


Uh oh....
Staff did play some with Drury though
And was older than Sam when he broke into the league

Not the best comparison

Are u back on not liking Sam?
U flip-flop on our players too much for me to keep track of
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:54 PM ET
How many goals did the Stafford Sabres teams score? Thought so. It's a hell of a lot easier to score when the opposition has to worry about 3 legit scoring lines than 2 guys on one line.
- Wetbandit1

Stafford was on a team with “3 legit scoring lines” for one season in which he played 41 games.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:55 PM ET
Stafford was on a team with “3 legit scoring lines” for one season in which he played 41 games.
- sbroads24

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 9:56 PM ET
Uh oh....
Staff did play some with Drury though
And was older than Sam when he broke into the league

Not the best comparison

Are u back on not liking Sam?
U flip-flop on our players too much for me to keep track of

- jdfitz77

No I do like Sam. He should definitely stay.

But the career paths are very similar so far.

Just some perspective
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 9:58 PM ET
Ennis/Reinhart/Moulson
Girgensons/Hodgson/Stewart
Conacher/Foligno/Stafford
Scott/Delauriers/Kaleta


Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:58 PM ET
Stafford was on a team with “3 legit scoring lines” for one season in which he played 41 games.
- sbroads24


Ok, maybe that was a bit of a stretch, but they were 4th and 10th in GF his 2nd and 3rd season as opposed to 25th and 31st.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
With the 5th pick the NY Islanders select................... what F$$KIN difference does it make I;m Garth Snow
- SABRES 89






Michael Dal Colle

Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisaitl
pegulaville -Draisaitl
herzeleid - Draisaitl
rover16 - Bennett
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennett
Maximum Signal - Reinhart
evatnorth - Trade
gibby111 - Bennett
Otsegolectric - Draisaitl
Enzomatic - Reinhart
Leninthebuff - Draisaitl
jackoc150 - Bennett
joevthree - Ekblad
Irish 14 - Bennett
jaumiller - Reinhart
homiedclown - Draisaitl *
IonSabres - Bennett
100goalseason - Reinhart
ZemgusTurtlsons - Bennett
Orphen22 - Reinhart
sabresfandan - Reinhart
SabresNHL - Bennett
beargk - Bennett
jochfr - Tits McGee (Reinhart)
Da_Cashman - Reinhart
Khymlev13 - Reinhart
TheSabresTaco - Reinhart
IceColdBeer - Reinhart
IndianaSabresFan - Bennett
Buffalo-Sabres - Bennett
Cheeseballin - Reinhart
HonkFortheGoose - Reinhart
CaptainRivet - Reinhart
Cabin - Reinhart
ImThatGuy - Reinhart
Smittyx36 - Reinhart
Jammerz04 - Reinhart
Homer- Reinhart

**CLOSED**

Honorable Mention:
dadeadhead - Reinhart
mhp - Bennett




https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=118162&page=63

- homiedclown


Was gonna mention I had Leon higher then Reinhart in my draft rankings that year but didn’t have it bookmarked and I didn’t think anyone would believe me haha.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:01 PM ET
Ok, maybe that was a bit of a stretch, but they were 4th and 10th in GF his 2nd and 3rd season as opposed to 25th and 31st.
- Wetbandit1

I’m in no way saying he’s better. I’ll take Sam 10 out of 10 times.

But Stafford’s downfall kind of dillutes his first few years that are comparable to Sam
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:02 PM ET
It's a very practical way to look at it, but it won't be that clean. Someone is going to impress and push for a spot, and a few players will get hurt.
- Lunaion


Sure... injuries could of course change everything

Hopefully at least Larsson or Girgs gets moved
I’d be ok with both getting moved to let the kids fight for a spot or 2

Although i also don’t think that Larsson & Girgs are as bad as ppl on here say
Botts obviously doesn’t think they suck either
I feel like ppl discount that he signed them to TWO year deals
He didn’t have to do that
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