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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 10:03 PM ET
I’m in no way saying he’s better. I’ll take Sam 10 out of 10 times.

But Stafford’s downfall kind of dillutes his first few years that are comparable to Sam

- sbroads24


I really think 75% of the reason people don't like him is because he's not Tom Wilson.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jul 16 @ 10:04 PM ET
Sure... injuries could of course change everything

Hopefully at least Larsson or Girgs gets moved
I’d be ok with both getting moved to let the kids fight for a spot or 2

Although i also don’t think that Larsson & Girgs are as bad as ppl on here say
Botts obviously doesn’t think they suck either
I feel like ppl discount that he signed them to TWO year deals
He didn’t have to do that

- jdfitz77

I don’t either, but I think Girgensons is better, but he hasn’t had an actual role in 3 years
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
I really think 75% of the reason people don't like him is because he's not Tom Wilson.
- Wetbandit1


Forsberg went one pick before grigorenko. Wilson, Hertl, Teravinen, were like 3 out of the next 4 picks after Girgensons if I remember correctly.
Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:05 PM ET
How do we move one when both are protected ?

We certainly aren’t going to move ours

- gerbe75pts


Where are you getting that these draft picks are PROTECTED? They are conditional 1st round picks and the only trouble with trading them is that the receiving team still has to follow the same conditions we have to. It becomes an issue because there is no guarantee the team receiving the pick will get it in the next draft, they may have to wait till 2020 draft, which most teams would probably not prefer to do.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 10:11 PM ET
Where are you getting that these draft picks are PROTECTED? They are conditional 1st round picks and the only trouble with trading them is that the receiving team still has to follow the same conditions we have to. It becomes an issue because there is no guarantee the team receiving the pick will get it in the next draft, they may have to wait till 2020 draft, which most teams would probably not prefer to do.
- Sabrehagan

Is this factual?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:11 PM ET
You called him a 'decent' prospect. That's a C to me. Whatever you consider Baptiste, Thompson is a full grade ahead.
- Lunaion


I like Baptiste more than most
So that’s where we disagree

Baptiste
-good, maybe very good shot
-great skater

Thompson
-great (supposedly?) shot
-average skater

I don’t place them far apart at all
But i also have seen VERY little of Thompson
I’m just going by reports & his stats
So i reserve the right to change my mind,
or at least update my opinion
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 16 @ 10:12 PM ET
Is this factual?
- TheHank


It sounds logical, so probably not. No one knows. And the people that say they can't be traded have yet to prove it.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:14 PM ET
Hockeybuzz Draft Bet:

sbraods24 - Draisaitl
pegulaville -Draisaitl
herzeleid - Draisaitl
rover16 - Bennett
gerbe - Reinhart
letsgobuffalo75 - Reinhart
powerslave - Reinhart
89 - Reinhart
stripes77 - Reinhart
GilPerreault11 - Bennett
Maximum Signal - Reinhart
evatnorth - Trade
gibby111 - Bennett
Otsegolectric - Draisaitl
Enzomatic - Reinhart
Leninthebuff - Draisaitl
jackoc150 - Bennett
joevthree - Ekblad
Irish 14 - Bennett
jaumiller - Reinhart
homiedclown - Draisaitl *
IonSabres - Bennett
100goalseason - Reinhart
ZemgusTurtlsons - Bennett
Orphen22 - Reinhart
sabresfandan - Reinhart
SabresNHL - Bennett
beargk - Bennett
jochfr - Tits McGee (Reinhart)
Da_Cashman - Reinhart
Khymlev13 - Reinhart
TheSabresTaco - Reinhart
IceColdBeer - Reinhart
IndianaSabresFan - Bennett
Buffalo-Sabres - Bennett
Cheeseballin - Reinhart
HonkFortheGoose - Reinhart
CaptainRivet - Reinhart
Cabin - Reinhart
ImThatGuy - Reinhart
Smittyx36 - Reinhart
Jammerz04 - Reinhart
Homer- Reinhart

**CLOSED**

Honorable Mention:
dadeadhead - Reinhart
mhp - Bennett




https://www.hockeybuzz.co...?thread_id=118162&page=63

- homiedclown



I’d have said Reinhart
But Ekblad was #1 and Draisaitl was #3 ahead of Bennett on my board

I did think Bennett would be better than this though
If we can “buy low” on him,
I’d be ok with that
Gotta move some guys out though
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
Sure... injuries could of course change everything

Hopefully at least Larsson or Girgs gets moved
I’d be ok with both getting moved to let the kids fight for a spot or 2

Although i also don’t think that Larsson & Girgs are as bad as ppl on here say
Botts obviously doesn’t think they suck either
I feel like ppl discount that he signed them to TWO year deals
He didn’t have to do that

- jdfitz77


You make too much out of those 2 year deals. If he signed them to one year deals, they'd have been arb eligible after. A low cost 2 year deal is a conservative play.

I have no issue at all with Girgs in the bottom 6. Larsson on the other hand, was a complete train wreck last season. He needs a strong camp to make the team imo.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:17 PM ET
No I do like Sam. He should definitely stay.

But the career paths are very similar so far.

Just some perspective

- sbroads24


Age though
And you’ve hated on Sam in the past a bit
Well, more than a bit

You & i had quite a few back & forths about him... pretty regularly dude
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
I really think 75% of the reason people don't like him is because he's not Tom Wilson.
- Wetbandit1

I hate Tom Wilson so don’t put me in that group
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:19 PM ET
Ennis/Reinhart/Moulson
Girgensons/Hodgson/Stewart
Conacher/Foligno/Stafford
Scott/Delauriers/Kaleta



- homiedclown


TANK-A-THON
And Sam got sent back after 8 games or whatever

I forgot we played Foligno at Center a bit
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 10:20 PM ET
It sounds logical, so probably not. No one knows. And the people that say they can't be traded have yet to prove it.
- Wetbandit1

Nobody can seem to confirm or deny.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jul 16 @ 10:21 PM ET
Where are you getting that these draft picks are PROTECTED? They are conditional 1st round picks and the only trouble with trading them is that the receiving team still has to follow the same conditions we have to. It becomes an issue because there is no guarantee the team receiving the pick will get it in the next draft, they may have to wait till 2020 draft, which most teams would probably not prefer to do.
- Sabrehagan


We need it written for it to be legit
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:21 PM ET
I’m usually never wrong about predicting that will be a bottom team

Right now with no legit winger wouldn’t Surprise me if we Finish in the bottom three

- gerbe75pts


I bet you a months salary your move to California was initially one of your parents’ suggestion.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:22 PM ET
Nobody can seem to confirm or deny.
- TheHank

there is a clause in Lehner's contract

if he goes o for 8 in the shootout, he can be loaned to a swedish team for the rest of the season
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
With the 5th pick the NY Islanders select................... what F$$KIN difference does it make I;m Garth Snow
- SABRES 89


Michael Dal Colle


- homiedclown



Hahahahaha
Amazing

Lou just lucked out big in this draft though
Idk if Garth even could’ve messed that up
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
Nobody can seem to confirm or deny.
- TheHank

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
I really think 75% of the reason people don't like him is because he's not Tom Wilson.
- Wetbandit1


If you mean: difficult to play against,


Count me in
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Jul 16 @ 10:24 PM ET
I like Baptiste more than most
So that’s where we disagree

Baptiste
-good, maybe very good shot
-great skater

Thompson
-great (supposedly?) shot
-average skater

I don’t place them far apart at all
But i also have seen VERY little of Thompson
I’m just going by reports & his stats
So i reserve the right to change my mind,
or at least update my opinion

- jdfitz77


It's really not fair to beat on Thompson for his stats last year, when his were better in AHL and NHL than Baptiste. He's 2 full years younger. Injuries forced him into the NHL before he was really ready.

He's a good prospect. It shouldn't be so painful to say that.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 10:25 PM ET
there is a clause in Lehner's contract

if he goes o for 8 in the shootout, he can be loaned to a swedish team for the rest of the season

- homiedclown

Don’t get me started.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

Jul 16 @ 10:26 PM ET

- homiedclown

Are they both real and fantastic?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
Are they both real and fantastic?
- TheHank

Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The 'Burbs, NY
Joined: 06.19.2015

Jul 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
Is this factual?
- TheHank


I don't see why it wouldn't be. Can someone explain why you Would Not be able to trade a conditional pick?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jul 16 @ 10:31 PM ET
I don't see why it wouldn't be. Can someone explain why you Would Not be able to trade a conditional pick?
- Sabrehagan

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