The kid was traded for Dougie Hamilton, who was well regarded for his offence here. The pressure was already on him. This is a decent contract and hopefully helps push him to greater heights but not make him a potential goat because of a bloated contract.
- TandA4Flames

He was trying to make the point that he'd be under less pressure here than Carolina, but it's the complete opposite. He was part of a major trade, just signed a major contract, and is joining a team that has nothing else going on besides hockey all winter. There's going to be a ton of pressure on him.

He was trying to make the point that he'd be under less pressure here than Carolina, but it's the complete opposite. He was part of a major trade, just signed a major contract, and is joining a team that has nothing else going on besides hockey all winter. There's going to be a ton of pressure on him.
- Hunkulese

There's more media and higher expectations for the team in Calgary too, given the ages of it's core.

Aho and Monahan are pretty similar talents at this point, but yes Gaudreau is currently heads and tails above the rest. Point was that it's not like Lindholm was playing with schlubs, and his production never really changed much regardless of his linemates.
- BINGO!

Even Teravainen was somewhat close to Monahan last year.

I'm not sure it's worth an exclamation mark let alone two. It's a decent contract that came in at almost exactly what he was asking for. He also wasn't playing with chumps in Carolina. Pretty much all his time last was spent playing with Aho, Skinner, Teravainen, and Staal. They're not Gaudreau, but there's a lot of talent there and his linemates weren't holding him back.
- Hunkulese

I honestly think that this contract will look great in a few years. While his teammates were not “chumps” players like Monahan and gaudreau are going to be substantially better than he has been used too. Skinner and Staal didn’t hit 50pts. At the same time if you look at his usage it was ALL over the map. He was a stop gap to fill in other lines and when you are moved all over you never really gain any chemistry. On the flames he will be #1 /#2 RW and will have less responsibility allowing him to flourish.

Even Teravainen was somewhat close to Monahan last year.
- Hunkulese

Monahan was playing through injuries for most of the season. This year will be a different story I’m expecting.

Monahan was playing through injuries for most of the season. This year will be a different story I’m expecting.
- jessehub

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.
- BINGO!

Oh you said Aho..sorry my bad.

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.
- BINGO!

Dont you dare bring logic and facts to de value mony. Best player in the league okay

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.
- BINGO!

Yeah if he wasn't battling injuries last year I'm sure he would of been that much better. I know he had a great season battling injuries...

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.
- BINGO!

He had his best season ever and in the off season had surgery for hernias in both hips, had his groin operated on and had his wrist re constructed... Im guessing his totals would of been better if he has 100 percent all season. But GFY anyways

He had his best season ever and in the off season had surgery for hernias in both hips, had his groin operated on and had his wrist re constructed... Im guessing his totals would of been better if he has 100 percent all season. But GFY anyways
- jessehub

Okay but what I'm saying is that these are the best totals he's ever had so I'm not sure what the problem was before, and there's nothing to indicate that he should have been substantially better than he was.

Anyway thanks for your time!

I'm excited to see what a top-6 RH player can bring to the Johnny/Monny line. Those two were already a deadly duo with stopgap players (sorry Ferly). More scoring threat for Johnny to tee up now

Okay but what I'm saying is that these are the best totals he's ever had so I'm not sure what the problem was before, and there's nothing to indicate that he should have been substantially better than he was.

Anyway thanks for your time!
- BINGO!

Tre works his magic again.

Really hard to hate this contract. Could look like a steal in a few years, and even if it doesn't it won't really hurt us. Under 5 is fantastic and the only thing that might be a concern is the term, but even that is far from egregious for a 23 year old.

Another solid move by Treliving. He's just been killing it this off-season.

Okay but what I'm saying is that these are the best totals he's ever had so I'm not sure what the problem was before, and there's nothing to indicate that he should have been substantially better than he was.

Anyway thanks for your time!
- BINGO!

Monahan also has a much tougher work load than those guys who get spoon fed favourable matches and offensive starts

Monahan also has a much tougher work load than those guys who get spoon fed favourable matches and offensive starts
- kresco

Good try.

Sean Monahan 2017-2018
Offensive Zone Starts: 58.7%
Defensive Zone Starts: 41.3%

Sebastian Aho 2017-2018
Offensive Zone Starts: 57.0%
Defensive Zone Starts: 43.0%

...This was Monahan's most productive year ever?
Actually just looked, Aho had more points last season than Monahan has ever had in a single year, and Teravainen's 64 points ties him with Monahan this season.
- BINGO!

Pretty much since Hudler left (15-16), Ferland is the only guy that has had ANY skill that played RW on that top line (besides a handful of games with Jagr who was a shadow of his former self).

Brouwer, Chiasson, Bouma, Colborne all had way too much time on that right side.

Still say we need a 3rd line that can reliably score goals before we will actually make any noise.

Someone was saying that they want the 3M line to remain intact but I would rather see Lindholm playing on the second and hoping Czarnik can bring the speed and offense to play with Janko and Bennett.

To me Frolik becomes trade bait.

Good try.

Sean Monahan 2017-2018
Offensive Zone Starts: 58.7%
Defensive Zone Starts: 41.3%

Sebastian Aho 2017-2018
Offensive Zone Starts: 57.0%
Defensive Zone Starts: 43.0%
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You are becoming as fun as herpes......at least the clap goes away.

I honestly think that this contract will look great in a few years. While his teammates were not “chumps” players like Monahan and gaudreau are going to be substantially better than he has been used too. Skinner and Staal didn’t hit 50pts. At the same time if you look at his usage it was ALL over the map. He was a stop gap to fill in other lines and when you are moved all over you never really gain any chemistry. On the flames he will be #1 /#2 RW and will have less responsibility allowing him to flourish.
- kresco

Also regarding the pressure, there will always be more on guys playing in a Canadian market to elevate their game. Contract aside, the fans, media, management and other team players will push him. I think he’ll do more; I don’t think the contract is such that he’ll have too much pressure. Just enough.

Yeah if he wasn't battling injuries last year I'm sure he would of been that much better. I know he had a great season battling injuries...
- jessehub

And shut ‘er down early as well.

You are becoming as fun as herpes......at least the clap goes away.
- DuranDuran

Pretty much since Hudler left (15-16), Ferland is the only guy that has had ANY skill that played RW on that top line (besides a handful of games with Jagr who was a shadow of his former self).

Brouwer, Chiasson, Bouma, Colborne all had way too much time on that right side.

Still say we need a 3rd line that can reliably score goals before we will actually make any noise.

Someone was saying that they want the 3M line to remain intact but I would rather see Lindholm playing on the second and hoping Czarnik can bring the speed and offense to play with Janko and Bennett.

To me Frolik becomes trade bait.
- DuranDuran

Ive been saying this all summer.

Okay but what I'm saying is that these are the best totals he's ever had so I'm not sure what the problem was before, and there's nothing to indicate that he should have been substantially better than he was.

Anyway thanks for your time!
- BINGO!

Sorry, comparing Aho & Tervanian to Monahan & Gaudreau is like putting oranges in a apple pie. Yikes Aho has had two established years, is a RW 54 & 66 points consecutively. Kid "is" going to be a stud but he just had a breakout year. Tervo is a LW & last 2 years had 42 & 64 points, no where close to Gaudreau. Monahan is way more established as a 30 goal 60+ point player. If & that's a big if, Lindholm has chemistry with these two guys & sticks on this line next year, all year, I would make you a bet he has a career year.

I honestly think that this contract will look great in a few years. While his teammates were not “chumps” players like Monahan and gaudreau are going to be substantially better than he has been used too. Skinner and Staal didn’t hit 50pts. At the same time if you look at his usage it was ALL over the map. He was a stop gap to fill in other lines and when you are moved all over you never really gain any chemistry. On the flames he will be #1 /#2 RW and will have less responsibility allowing him to flourish.
- kresco

You're talking about his usage being all over the map, but he's going to have the exact same coach this year so why would you expect things to change.

People are also dreaming if they think he's going to get significant time with Gaudreau and Monahan. They just gave Neal a ridiculous contract. He's going to have to be a disaster on the top line to be moved off it.

The best fit for Lindholm would be with Bennett and Jankowski, but who knows if they're even going to be playing together this year.

Sorry, comparing Aho & Tervanian to Monahan & Gaudreau is like putting oranges in a apple pie. Yikes Aho has had two established years, is a RW 54 & 66 points consecutively. Kid "is" going to be a stud but he just had a breakout year. Tervo is a LW & last 2 years had 42 & 64 points, no where close to Gaudreau. Monahan is way more established as a 30 goal 60+ point player. If & that's a big if, Lindholm has chemistry with these two guys & sticks on this line next year, all year, I would make you a bet he has a career year.
- Kevin R

*Sigh*

I agreed that Gaudreau is well beyond the other two. Monahan one can make an argument over as he's been at about the same level of production since he enterred the league.

I was not suggesting that Monahan is somehow a worse player than either of the other two. Merely defending Aho as he's in no way as far from the level Monahan is as some seem to want to claim.

Christ, Aho had 18 points in 8 games at the World Championships this year. at 20 years old he lead the tournament in goals and Points Per Game. Obviously it's only 8 games and that's not a great place to judge anyone, but that's still a massive accomplishment considering the only guys anywhere close to those numbers were McDavid and Kane.