Y’all are making a lot of assumptions that Lindholm won’t be moved through the lineup throughout the year. I don’t disagree that he’ll probably have a career year playing with Johnny and Monny. But let’s remember Bill Peters isn’t one to keep lines together dude shuffles his players a lot. Lindholm is just one example of a player that Peters shuffled through the lineup in Raleigh.

Overall felt it was a decent contract though, not jump up with joy, but definitely about right in terms of AAV. The term is low risk, high reward if he fits on that top line it’ll be a steal in a year or two, if he doesn’t and remains stagnant it’ll still be a reasonable AAV(maybe slightly high ~500kish) for his PK and current offensive ability.

*Sigh*

I agreed that Gaudreau is well beyond the other two. Monahan one can make an argument over as he's been at about the same level of production since he enterred the league.

I was not suggesting that Monahan is somehow a worse player than either of the other two. Merely defending Aho as he's in no way as far from the level Monahan is as some seem to want to claim.

Christ, Aho had 18 points in 8 games at the World Championships this year. at 20 years old he lead the tournament in goals and Points Per Game. Obviously it's only 8 games and that's not a great place to judge anyone, but that's still a massive accomplishment considering the only guys anywhere close to those numbers were McDavid and Kane.
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Got it! Aho = McDavid or Kane.
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Got it! Aho = McDavid or Kane.
😉
- TandA4Flames

I will fight you.

You're talking about his usage being all over the map, but he's going to have the exact same coach this year so why would you expect things to change.

People are also dreaming if they think he's going to get significant time with Gaudreau and Monahan. They just gave Neal a ridiculous contract. He's going to have to be a disaster on the top line to be moved off it.

The best fit for Lindholm would be with Bennett and Jankowski, but who knows if they're even going to be playing together this year.
- Hunkulese

Flames have more depth than Carolina had so .....ya he won’t jump up and down on the charts. And if you think Neal is a lock in the top line guess again. He played 2nd line on Vegas and Pittsburgh and he was good then too Neal isn’t a premadonna who expects top line play. Conroy, Treliving, Peters have talked ALOT about having a RH guy to take face offs for Monahan on his off hand and Lindholm checks that box not so much Neal

Flames have more depth than Carolina had so .....ya he won’t jump up and down on the charts. And if you think Neal is a lock in the top line guess again. He played 2nd line on Vegas and Pittsburgh and he was good then too Neal isn’t a premadonna who expects top line play. Conroy, Treliving, Peters have talked ALOT about having a RH guy to take face offs for Monahan on his off hand and Lindholm checks that box not so much Neal
- kresco

Was just wondering if Janko and a prospect would land us Wilson.

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We would be a birch of a team to play against and potentially have 4 lines that could score.

Flames have more depth than Carolina had so .....ya he won’t jump up and down on the charts. And if you think Neal is a lock in the top line guess again. He played 2nd line on Vegas and Pittsburgh and he was good then too Neal isn’t a premadonna who expects top line play. Conroy, Treliving, Peters have talked ALOT about having a RH guy to take face offs for Monahan on his off hand and Lindholm checks that box not so much Neal
- kresco

I don't think you understand how Bill Peters works.

Lindholm played over 50 minutes this year on 8 different line combinations just at 5 on 5, with 9 different forwards not including himself.

He's all over the place with his usage of guys and it's seeming unrelated to their individual performance.

Maybe he's learned some things, but Peters tends to change the way he uses players based on what his opponent is doing rather than trying to put guys in a position to have success and impose their will on the opposition.

Flames have more depth than Carolina had so .....ya he won’t jump up and down on the charts. And if you think Neal is a lock in the top line guess again. He played 2nd line on Vegas and Pittsburgh and he was good then too Neal isn’t a premadonna who expects top line play. Conroy, Treliving, Peters have talked ALOT about having a RH guy to take face offs for Monahan on his off hand and Lindholm checks that box not so much Neal
- kresco

You're not giving Carolina enough credit. They have a decent group of forwards. Even if the Flames are deeper this year, it makes it more likely players get moved around. If you're not getting the results Peters wants, there's someone else to take your place.

Neal also wasn't making 5.75 million before. There's going to be more pressure on him to be a top line guy. That contracts going to look really bad if he starts dropping in the lineup and starts scoring 15 goals a year.

Okay but what I'm saying is that these are the best totals he's ever had so I'm not sure what the problem was before, and there's nothing to indicate that he should have been substantially better than he was.

Anyway thanks for your time!
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Usually when players are not injured they play substantially better in my experience...

Usually when players are not injured they play substantially better in my experience...
- jessehub

Missing time due to injury isn't really a positive thing. I think Monahan is better, but the stats are the stats. Both Monahan and Teravainen scored 64 points last year, which was a career best for both of them. It's also entirely possible that Teravainen scores more points than Monahan this year.

I will fight you.
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Missing time due to injury isn't really a positive thing. I think Monahan is better, but the stats are the stats. Both Monahan and Teravainen scored 64 points last year, which was a career best for both of them. It's also entirely possible that Teravainen scores more points than Monahan this year.
- Hunkulese

Always the optimist!

You're not giving Carolina enough credit. They have a decent group of forwards. Even if the Flames are deeper this year, it makes it more likely players get moved around. If you're not getting the results Peters wants, there's someone else to take your place.

Neal also wasn't making 5.75 million before. There's going to be more pressure on him to be a top line guy. That contracts going to look really bad if he starts dropping in the lineup and starts scoring 15 goals a year.
- Hunkulese

It’s about maximizing productivity throughout the line-up. If having Neil on the 2nd or 3rd line while others are scoring more themselves by playing up in the lineup then that’s how it should go. Regardless if Neil is paid like a 1st liner.

Missing time due to injury isn't really a positive thing. I think Monahan is better, but the stats are the stats. Both Monahan and Teravainen scored 64 points last year, which was a career best for both of them. It's also entirely possible that Teravainen scores more points than Monahan this year.
- Hunkulese

No, it isn't a positive thing, but it's not unreasonable to assume Monahan's numbers would be better if he wasn't injured. He had a career year while being injured. That should speak volumes about how good he is.

Missing time due to injury isn't really a positive thing. I think Monahan is better, but the stats are the stats. Both Monahan and Teravainen scored 64 points last year, which was a career best for both of them. It's also entirely possible that Teravainen scores more points than Monahan this year.
- Hunkulese

Mr. Positive!

Would it be possible that Monahan scores more? Just wondering.

Missing time due to injury isn't really a positive thing. I think Monahan is better, but the stats are the stats. Both Monahan and Teravainen scored 64 points last year, which was a career best for both of them. It's also entirely possible that Teravainen scores more points than Monahan this year.
- Hunkulese

I’m talking about playing through injuries all season not missing time. Anyways I’m beating a dead horse here f()ck yeah both

No, it isn't a positive thing, but it's not unreasonable to assume Monahan's numbers would be better if he wasn't injured. He had a career year while being injured. That should speak volumes about how good he is.
- Helios

So I’m not crazy!! Or was I not being clear enough with wtf I was saying?

No, it isn't a positive thing, but it's not unreasonable to assume Monahan's numbers would be better if he wasn't injured. He had a career year while being injured. That should speak volumes about how good he is.
- Helios

Teravainen being good doesn't lessen in any way Monahan being good. They can both be good.

Mr. Positive!

Would it be possible that Monahan scores more? Just wondering.
- DuranDuran

Literally not possible. Ever

Was just wondering if Janko and a prospect would land us Wilson.

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We would be a birch of a team to play against and potentially have 4 lines that could score.
- DuranDuran

So you propose we give up Jankowski and something else for a first line 35 point producer? I thought the idea was to improve the offense? With that kind of logic, why did we trade away Ferland?

Who is CN?

Mr. Positive!

Would it be possible that Monahan scores more? Just wondering.
- DuranDuran

Possible implies that the opposite is more likely.

Was just wondering if Janko and a prospect would land us Wilson.

JG-SM-Wislon
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We would be a birch of a team to play against and potentially have 4 lines that could score.
- DuranDuran

And where did James Neal disappear to?

And where did James Neal disappear to?
- Squilliam-

Buried him in the minors to make a spot for Wilson on the top line

Buried him in the minors to make a spot for Wilson on the top line
- jessehub

Nice to have that depth 👍

WSH fans don’t seem to keen on signing Wilson for larger contract given there lack of cap space. Maybe they’d prefer cost certainty for a couple of years. Frolik and Hathaway as a cheaper less skilled Wilson type who is actually only a 4th liner, for Wilson. 👍

WSH fans don’t seem to keen on signing Wilson for larger contract given there lack of cap space. Maybe they’d prefer cost certainty for a couple of years. Frolik and Hathaway as a cheaper less skilled Wilson type who is actually only a 4th liner, for Wilson. 👍
- TandA4Flames

Flames fans shouldn't be keen on trading for and signing Wilson to a larger contract given their lack of cap space. Did you learn nothing from Bouma?