Leafs barely have one defenseman worthy of being considered a top pairing defenseman but Tampa Bay is in on Karlsson when they already have Hedman and McDonagh. But clearly, Yzerman must be stupid and the Leafs don't need a top pairing RHD.

Sure thing.
- Unholy_Goalie

How many Cups does Tampa have with this roster?

Kucherov got 9.5 and he put up better numbers than both of them.
- Unholy_Goalie

Because of Florida’s lower taxes.

Because of Florida’s lower taxes.
- Steven_Seagull

Marner has Leafs bed sheets. He'll take less.

Kucherov got 9.5 and he put up better numbers than both of them.

Draisaitl put up better numbers than Marner. He even has more points than Matthews.
- Unholy_Goalie

Draisaitl has played more than either of them, and is older.


Matthews missed 20 games and still almost had the same number of points.


You’re so bad at this.

Marner has Leafs bed sheets. He'll take less.
- Unholy_Goalie

Being wrong about Tavares has you so rattled.

I almost killed myself laughing when you swore Tavares being a Leaf fan wouldn't influence his decision. Only to have him come out and say it was almost entirely what he based it on.

Ya nailed that one UGTARD!
- Unholy-Goalie

He’s such a dumbass.

this -_ is very confusing

this -_ is very embarassing
- Symba007

Agreed.

Being wrong about Tavares has you so rattled.
- Steven_Seagull

Far from it. Clearly the idea of the Leafs adding a legit top pairing RHD from Ottawa has you rattled to pieces though.

Far from it. Clearly the idea of the Leafs adding a legit top pairing RHD from Ottawa has you rattled to pieces though.
- Unholy_Goalie

(frank) man, why don't you give it a break? The Leafs don't need him plus they can't afford him - in salary and what they would have to give up for the trade. It's as simple as that.

Far from it. Clearly the idea of the Leafs adding a legit top pairing RHD from Ottawa has you rattled to pieces though.
- Unholy_Goalie

What?

(frank) man, why don't you give it a break? The Leafs don't need him plus they can't afford him - in salary and what they would have to give up for the trade. It's as simple as that.
- TrashPanda

(frank) man, why don't you give it a break? The Leafs don't need him plus they can't afford him - in salary and what they would have to give up for the trade. It's as simple as that.
- TrashPanda

Rielly / Hainsey
Gardiner / Zaitsev
Dermott / Carrick

But the Leafs don't need Karlsson.

The one clear, obvious, identifiable flaw on the team by a country mile but the Leafs don't need a legit, All-Star, Norris winning, top pairing RHD in his prime.

Adorable.

IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH LUBE ANYTHING CAN FIT.

Rielly / Hainsey
Gardiner / Zaitsev
Dermott / Carrick

But the Leafs don't need Karlsson.

The one clear, obvious, identifiable flaw on the team by a country mile but the Leafs don't need a legit, All-Star, Norris winning, top pairing RHD in his prime.

Adorable.
- Unholy_Goalie

Orlov / Niskanen
Kempny / Carlson
Djoos / Orpik

Orlov / Niskanen
Kempny / Carlson
Djoos / Orpik
- Steven_Seagull

Cute because Carlson was #1 in the NHL in scoring among defensemen and that's usually what Karlsson does.

But sure, let him go to Tampa Bay and play this in the 1st or 2nd round.

Hedman / Karlsson
McDonagh / Stralman
Doesn't / Matter

They can compete with that for sure.

Cute because Carlson was #1 in the NHL in scoring among defensemen and that's usually what Karlsson does.

But sure, let him go to Tampa Bay and play this in the 1st or 2nd round.

Hedman / Karlsson
McDonagh / Stralman
Doesn't / Matter

They can compete with that for sure.
- Unholy_Goalie

Carlson: 68 points
Orlov: 31 points
= 99

Rielly: 52
Gardiner: 52
= 104

Don’t need Karlsson.


Tampa will gut their team’s depth.

UG you really enjoy repeating the same poop over and over again or what? Give it a break man holy poop you've honestly been saying the same poop in almost every reply now for weeks.

Carlson: 68 points
Orlov: 31 points
= 99

Rielly: 52
Gardiner: 52
= 104

Don’t need Karlsson.


Tampa will gut their team’s depth.
- Steven_Seagull

Tampa isn't getting him either. Unless they go to Miami and get some voodoo witch doctors from the Haitian community to cast some spells or something. It isn't happening.

Carlson: 68 points
Orlov: 31 points
= 99

Rielly: 52
Gardiner: 52
= 104

Don’t need Karlsson.


Tampa will gut their team’s depth.
- Steven_Seagull

Leafs have garbage on the right side but they don't need Karlsson. Keep lying to yourself.

Nah, they actually won't. They have 3 guys on D coming off the books for exactly 11.2 million AAV. They just have to move a contract to fit him this year.

I see we’re in the dog days of summer.

Leafs have garbage on the right side but they don't need Karlsson. Keep lying to yourself.

Nah, they actually won't. They have 3 guys on D coming off the books for exactly 11.2 million AAV. They just have to move a contract to fit him this year.
- Unholy_Goalie

A full year of Dermott, bounce back year for Zaitsev, and Carrick plays well with Gardiner. Just get someone better than Hainsey to play with Rielly. Won’t cost Nylander + Gardiner. Don’t need Karlsson.

A full year of Dermott, bounce back year for Zaitsev, and Carrick plays well with Gardiner. Just get someone better than Hainsey to play with Rielly. Won’t cost Nylander + Gardiner. Don’t need Karlsson.
- Steven_Seagull

Dubas has said that the plan is to sign Nylander, so he isn't going anywhere. 100% unavailable. Without a player like that to dangle Ottawa doesn't even answer the phone.

A full year of Dermott, bounce back year for Zaitsev, and Carrick plays well with Gardiner. Just get someone better than Hainsey to play with Rielly. Won’t cost Nylander + Gardiner. Don’t need Karlsson.
- Steven_Seagull

Dermott could go either way. Zaitsev could also be poop again. Carrick is a bottom pairing player, nothing special. Gardiner can walk after this year. Hainsey is old and is gone next year.

So at the end of it all, Rielly and maybe Dermott, the rest, replaceable and not anywhere near as good as Karlsson would be for the defense. Not even remotely comparable.

Dubas has said that the plan is to sign Nylander, so he isn't going anywhere. 100% unavailable. Without a player like that to dangle Ottawa doesn't even answer the phone.
- TrashPanda

Plans change especially if your direct rival is about to get their third #1 D and the Leafs are still looking for one.