homiedclown
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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Tell your friend “Oh wait you do nothing but be a POS. Don't insult the hard working people when you don't contribute jack sh!t. Sit down and shut your (frank) hole you piece of garbage.” - Der Kaiser
I wish my mommy would bring me some chicken soup |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I have been binge watching a show called Entourage on Amazon. In Season 4 Episode 4 a guy picks up a hot chick who he later discovers to be a tranny.
At the moment of his discovery, there is a c0ck shot. I thought you would want to know. - Der Kaiser
I like that show now thanks to you guys ..
But it’s always sunny has the best tranny episode |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I wish my mommy would bring me some chicken soup - homiedclown
Me too |
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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For the last time:
If you have draft picks you acquired in a trade from another team you can trade them, the conditions remain the same
HOWEVER:
You cannot offer sheet someone if you have conditions on your current draft picks
Like a 4th becomes a 3rd if player X hits 40 points - Stripes77
Yeah, it seems like that's true. The word encumbered only appears in the context of offer sheets in the CBA |
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sskkoo1
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: You are all Weirdos, NY Joined: 06.06.2012
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I’ll be retired by age 26 that’s the dream - gerbe75pts
Don't you need a job first? |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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You have to have something to retire from first.
Finally graduating doesn't count as retiring. Neither does dropping out. - JetpackJesus
My acting career is almost happening I’ll get that call from Warner Bros for DC anytime now |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Don't you need a job first? - sskkoo1
Damn your right ..
Walmart here i come |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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I’ll be retired by age 26 that’s the dream - gerbe75pts
you said you were in your early 30's a few weeks ago
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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I play in a Monday night league there. Live about a mile away.
Big Mike is a desperate cheater. - Der Kaiser
I like that part of Rochester, Fairport is a nice town. I actually will be in Rochester Thursday, have a few business meetings, wrapping up a deal with UR School of medicine. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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you said you were in your early 30's a few weeks ago
- homiedclown
Damn time travel |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Don't you need a job first? - sskkoo1
I don't think being on hockey buzz 24/7 qualifies as gameful employment. |
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I don't think being on hockey buzz 24/7 qualifies as gameful employment. - mhp
Ek pays me to bring traffic
Who brings the most traffic everyday ?
This blog
Edit : if anyone took this seriously lol |
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mhp
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD Joined: 01.14.2008
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Ek pays me to bring traffic
Who brings the most traffic everyday ?
This blog - gerbe75pts
Do me a favor chump and stop replying to my posts. 👍
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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Do me a favor chump and stop replying to my posts. 👍 - mhp
When some one doesn’t have the same opinion you go nuts
Everyone has different opinions and that’s what makes this place great if everyone agreed it be boring AF
You can say I’m trolling but I have different opinions “than” !!!!!others I see things differently “than” others |
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Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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When some one doesn’t have the same opinion you go nuts
Everyone has different opinions and that’s what makes this place great if everyone agreed it be boring AF
You can say I’m trolling but I have different opinions then others I see things differently then others - gerbe75pts
I can’t see you being able to retire until you learn how to spell “than”
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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks |
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I can’t see you being able to retire until you learn how to spell “than” - Der Kaiser
Damn you’re technically right
Back to the box |
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Sabrehagan
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: The 'Burbs, NY Joined: 06.19.2015
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Seriously. If only someone would just ask Botterill.
I scanned for key words in the CBA. I'll be damned if i read that whole thing. The word conditional never appears in a context next to the word trade.
Vogl says they can be traded.
That's from the CBA.
I don't believe from my cursory reading that it is expressly forbidden by the CBA
Edit:
Someone showed a quote from a GM about "encumbered picks"
a search of that word only appears as it relates to offer sheets - jcragcrumple
I just started back-reading so I am not sure if it has been said but I think I have figured out all this confusion with conditional or encumbered picks. The reason you hear GMs or media say that they can not be traded is because for the team that traded the pick they can't trade that pick again (See San Jose 2019 or 2020 pick). Neither of those picks can be traded because the condition has not been met or decided yet. The team that RECEIVED the conditional pick CAN trade it because there is nothing preventing them from trading it since the team receiving the conditional pick is still receiving the same conditions. They will be receiving either a 1st round pick in 2019 or 2020 and it has no basis on how the Sabres play in the future. Like I said in previous posts you are just trading a pick with the same conditions that you would have to follow if you kept the pick. Now if it was San Jose trying to trade their 2019 first round pick they can't do that until they know or decide if the pick is either theirs or ours. Hope that makes sense, I'm in a hurry Pizza's here.
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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I just started back-reading so I am not sure if it has been said but I think I have figured out all this confusion with conditional or encumbered picks. The reason you hear GMs or media say that they can not be traded is because for the team that traded the pick they can't trade that pick again (See San Jose 2019 or 2020 pick). Neither of those picks can be traded because the condition has not been met or decided yet. The team that RECEIVED the conditional pick CAN trade it because there is nothing preventing them from trading it since the team receiving the conditional pick is still receiving the same conditions. They will be receiving either a 1st round pick in 2019 or 2020 and it has no basis on how the Sabres play in the future. Like I said in previous posts you are just trading a pick with the same conditions that you would have to follow if you kept the pick. Now if it was San Jose trying to trade their 2019 first round pick they can't do that until they know or decide if the pick is either theirs or ours. Hope that makes sense, I'm in a hurry Pizza's here. - Sabrehagan
Question is does the value of the pick go down because of the condition?
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Question is does the value of the pick go down because of the condition? - gerbe75pts
No, there would probably be conditions added on top.
I.e., the sabres trade the STL first, if the STL pick is moved to 2020 instead of 2019, then sabres have to give an additional 2nd |
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gerbe75pts
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Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA Joined: 09.03.2009
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No, there would probably be conditions added on top.
I.e., the sabres trade the STL first, if the STL pick is moved to 2020 instead of 2019, then sabres have to give an additional 2nd - jcragcrumple
So a 2nd + the first I’d do that for skinner
But they probably put a 2nd round pick condition if we sign him |
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So a 2nd + the first I’d do that for skinner
But they probably but a 2nd round pick condition if we sign him - gerbe75pts
Could the Canes then trade the conditional conditional pick? What about the conditional conditional conditional pick?
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jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT Joined: 04.04.2016
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Could the Canes then trade the conditional conditional pick? What about the conditional conditional conditional pick? - Lunaion
Yes, but we couldn't trade the pick that we may have to give to Carolina.
So we could trade the conditional STL pick, and CAR coould re trade it, but we couldn't trade the 2nd that we would owe to CAR if the STL pick became a 2020 |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I can’t see you being able to retire until you learn how to spell “than” - Der Kaiser
Or use punctuation. |
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Yes, but we couldn't trade the pick that we may have to give to Carolina.
So we could trade the conditional STL pick, and CAR coould re trade it, but we couldn't trade the 2nd that we would owe to CAR if the STL pick became a 2020 - jcragcrumple
At some point, the NHL would have to stop it.
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I just started back-reading so I am not sure if it has been said but I think I have figured out all this confusion with conditional or encumbered picks. The reason you hear GMs or media say that they can not be traded is because for the team that traded the pick they can't trade that pick again (See San Jose 2019 or 2020 pick). Neither of those picks can be traded because the condition has not been met or decided yet. The team that RECEIVED the conditional pick CAN trade it because there is nothing preventing them from trading it since the team receiving the conditional pick is still receiving the same conditions. They will be receiving either a 1st round pick in 2019 or 2020 and it has no basis on how the Sabres play in the future. Like I said in previous posts you are just trading a pick with the same conditions that you would have to follow if you kept the pick. Now if it was San Jose trying to trade their 2019 first round pick they can't do that until they know or decide if the pick is either theirs or ours. Hope that makes sense, I'm in a hurry Pizza's here. - Sabrehagan
Sure, that's the logical thing, but a league that puts playoff games on the (frank)ing golf channel is anything but logical. |
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