Age was more of a factor. Schiefle had 2 years of Junior eligibility after he was drafted. Reinhart only had one.
- buffalofan19

Scheifele was older in his first 3 years

he was also on a playoff team in year 2


sabres never sniffed the post season

Age was more of a factor. Schiefle had 2 years of Junior eligibility after he was drafted. Reinhart only had one.
- buffalofan19

I'll disagree that age is more of a factor then who guys play with. And if one guy says he plays with Eichel, go look at who Schiefle plays with. Bad comparison, I didn't make it, but really the level of players on the Jets vs Sabres is astounding.

But you can't say that every player has gotten more points year over year 3 years into the league. Or that everyone was a ppg (your math) during the 2nd half of the year. So which is it? Actually, don't answer. Sam sucks, will never be a ppg player (because according to you his ppg is 90 points in 82 games) and needs to go yesterday.
- SDSabre

Dude gets 50 points and you want me to jump for joy ? He was the first forward taken he should be in the 70 -80 points
Or close to a PPG

We drafted him to be a first line center and now he’s wing thank god we drafted Casey or we be (frank)ed

Tell me would you take him first overall if we did a redraft ?

I’m just disappointed he’s not this wizard center he was projected to be

I'll disagree that age is more of a factor then who guys play with. And if one guy says he plays with Eichel, go look at who Schiefle plays with. Bad comparison, I didn't make it, but really the level of players on the Jets vs Sabres is astounding.
- SDSabre

ror and eichel were over rated

Nope, don't go there. The only facts allowed to be used are the facts that make him look right. All other facts are, in fact, not factual. They are just lies.
- SDSabre

So true

Dude gets 50 points and you want me to jump for joy ? He was the first forward taken he should be in the 70 -80 points
Or close to a PPG

We drafted him to be a first line center and now he’s wing thank god we drafted Casey or we be (frank)ed

Tell me would you take him first overall if we did a redraft ?

I’m just disappointed he’s not this wizard center he was projected to be
- gerbe75pts

if you used half this anger to get a degree


you would not be a sponge to the family tree



I kid
I kid

I'll disagree that age is more of a factor then who guys play with. And if one guy says he plays with Eichel, go look at who Schiefle plays with. Bad comparison, I didn't make it, but really the level of players on the Jets vs Sabres is astounding.
- SDSabre

If Reinhart is born 2 months earlier, he's drafted in 2013 instead of 2014. Given how out of place he looked in 2014, he'd also have spent 2 years in Juniors after drafted, just as Schiefle did. Age absolutely has a ton to do with it.

If Reinhart is born 2 months earlier, he's drafted in 2013 instead of 2014. Given how out of place he looked in 2014, he'd also have spend 2 years in Juniors after drafted, just as Schiefle did. Age absolutely has a ton to do with it.
- buffalofan19

Kyle Beach wishes he got 10 goals in the nhl

if you used half this anger to get a degree


you would not be a sponge to the family tree



I kid
I kid
- homiedclown

Maybe but school is the best I’m sure most of you miss the good times

Dude gets 50 points and you want me to jump for joy ? He was the first forward taken he should be in the 70 -80 points
Or close to a PPG

We drafted him to be a first line center and now he’s wing thank god we drafted Casey or we be (frank)ed

Tell me would you take him first overall if we did a redraft ?

I’m just disappointed he’s not this wizard center he was projected to be
- gerbe75pts

Well if you want to go look at the archives, I was for Ekblad if he fell, and most still wanted a forward even if he was there. But to answer your question, I'm not saying jump for joy. I'm saying let it play out for Christs sake. The consensus for that year was Ekblad then the two Sam's a Drai. Of course I'd take Drai over Skunk, but Pasta and Ehlers weren't in the discussion to do 2 by I would guess 99% of the hockey community. So, I'm not gonna kill Skunk like you are just because he's not putting up Drai numbers yet. If he stays at 50 points in three years, we can have the discussion then. That's all I'm saying. Also, it's a bad practice to say he's the first forward taken, he should be first in points. Datsyuk comes to mind, I'll let you look up what number forward he was taken. It isn't a crystal ball type thing. Lots of factors.

According to Gerbe he peaked after his 9 games...

- gordong

Has he improved ? Asking for a friend

He might be Ristolainen of the forwards

Has he improved ? Asking for a friend

He might be Ristolainen of the forwards
- gerbe75pts

His skating is much better, as is his shot.

Tell your friend to stop being Eeyore.

Well if you want to go look at the archives, I was for Ekblad if he fell, and most still wanted a forward even if he was there. But to answer your question, I'm not saying jump for joy. I'm saying let it play out for Christs sake. The consensus for that year was Ekblad then the two Sam's a Drai. Of course I'd take Drai over Skunk, but Pasta and Ehlers weren't in the discussion to do 2 by I would guess 99% of the hockey community. So, I'm not gonna kill Skunk like you are just because he's not putting up Drai numbers yet. If he stays at 50 points in three years, we can have the discussion then. That's all I'm saying. Also, it's a bad practice to say he's the first forward taken, he should be first in points. Datsyuk comes to mind, I'll let you look up what number forward he was taken. It isn't a crystal ball type thing. Lots of factors.
- SDSabre

The only reason why those 2 weren’t in the conversation for 2 they didn’t play center

Centers are the ones that skyrocket in the draft

If scouts knew Sam was never going to play center we might’ve got ehlers

The "something's gotta give" solution - assuming no other trades occur:

keep up - Bailey, Baptiste and Nelson
send down/waive - Larsson, Girgs and Beaulieu

Easy

Well if you want to go look at the archives, I was for Ekblad if he fell, and most still wanted a forward even if he was there. But to answer your question, I'm not saying jump for joy. I'm saying let it play out for Christs sake. The consensus for that year was Ekblad then the two Sam's a Drai. Of course I'd take Drai over Skunk, but Pasta and Ehlers weren't in the discussion to do 2 by I would guess 99% of the hockey community. So, I'm not gonna kill Skunk like you are just because he's not putting up Drai numbers yet. If he stays at 50 points in three years, we can have the discussion then. That's all I'm saying. Also, it's a bad practice to say he's the first forward taken, he should be first in points. Datsyuk comes to mind, I'll let you look up what number forward he was taken. It isn't a crystal ball type thing. Lots of factors.
- SDSabre

Wasting your time, just ignore him.

His skating is much better, as is his shot.

Tell your friend to stop being Eeyore.
- RhinoFan

Rhino you can’t be in this conversation you love him like I did gerbe respect ✊

ror and eichel were over rated
- homiedclown

I told everyone that after Kane and RoR were gone that Eichel was next.

You started this. What is done cannot be undone. May the Hockey Gods have mercy on your soul.

His skating is much better, as is his shot.

Tell your friend to stop being Eeyore.
- RhinoFan

I told everyone that after Kane and RoR were gone that Eichel was next.

You started this. What is done cannot be undone. May the Hockey Gods have mercy on your soul.
- RhinoFan

By december, if we're not in the playoff picture, more than half of the board will be trading Eichel

Rhino you can’t be in this conversation you love him like I did gerbe respect ✊
- gerbe75pts

It's the vision. I'm a sucker for big visions.

By december, if we're not in the playoff picture, more than half of the board will be trading Eichel
- jcragcrumple

Eichel and Varone for Pastrnak, Krug and Varone

By december, if we're not in the playoff picture, more than half of the board will be trading Eichel
- jcragcrumple

Get a three way trade with MTL and DET that brings back Armia and Athanasiou together, I'm ready to move on.

Eichel and Varone for Pastrnak, Krug and Varone
- CaptainRivet

Not getting enough Varones back

It's the vision. I'm a sucker for big visions.
- RhinoFan

Doctors say I have 10/20 vision

If you know what I mean

The only reason why those 2 weren’t in the conversation for 2 they didn’t play center

Centers are the ones that skyrocket in the draft

If scouts knew Sam was never going to play center we might’ve got ehlers
- gerbe75pts

There is 0 chance we weren't taking one of the Sams or Drai. Simply put, what do you think the reaction would have been in TM's first draft, if he walked up and went WAY off the board to draft a NOT center. I'll tell you right now, even if he thought Ehlers was the best player in the draft by a long shot, 0% chance he takes him.

0, nada, no, zilch, nil, less than one by a total of one.