Tom wilson:
35 points last year, but facts aside.......
- Boss34

Omg 35 ? Give that man 5m

I agree, it was an important post season. Tom got paid based on that and being a 24 year old , heading into the 6 prime years of his career.

I feel like the Sabres have plenty of scorers and play makers now. I'm just worried about protecting them.
Lots of small , non physical guys.

I would run them until they quit. Hope other coaches do not feel the same way.
- Boss34

We were one of the worst scoring teams in the league last year (if not worst?)

Lost O’Reilly & Kane- 2 of our top3 scorers

Added Mitts & Sheary, and i guess u could include Berglund

That doesn’t improve us much from last year

We still need help in the goal scoring department

Your point is valid for a team like the Sabres who are building and still a bit away.
That $5m could be spent on a highly skilled winger, so point well taken.

However for tne caps who were stacked, that infushion of toughness, wildness and ability to pot some points was in fact a very active ingedient to their success.

I ask this
If a tom Wilson type was enough to giive a guy like samson the confidence to stand in front of the net, to go behind the net for passes to the front...rather thaan getting killed trying to do so...is that confidence worth something? And if a player who instills that confidence can also pot 15 poi ts along the way in the playoffs...is that worth something?
Add them together, does tht nkt indeed provide higher value that eitber alone?

There is a place for Tom wilson, if he were to be a key ingedient in bring a cup to Buffalo...I would pay him $5m.
- IonSabres

But, Wilson only had 35 points.

That's all that matters.


Just kidding, some people just look at the stat sheet

Tom wilson:
35 points last year, but facts aside.......
- Boss34

I mean we do have Sobotka that is essentially a Patrick Kaleta that can actually contribute offensively. He puts up 30 points (just like Wilson) and he is first team PK and is 55% on the draw and supposedly he’s a cap dump at $3M a year...... He also has pretty good wheels.

We were one of the worst scoring teams in the league last year (if not worst?)

Lost O’Reilly & Kane- 2 of our top3 scorers

Added Mitts & Sheary, and i guess u could include Berglund

That doesn’t improve us much from last year

We still need help in the goal scoring department
- jdfitz77

Sure you missed it, but we drafted dahlin.

Mitts is special, that's right, hes gonna stay in college or play in Rochester

Your so right

height has nothing to do with it


at the time it was legal
- homiedclown

Legal or not it was still a predatory hit to the head on a player in a vulnerable position with the intent to injure. I always thought he was a POS even before the hit. All that being said, if Drury would have had his bucket strapped the results would not have been as bad.

I mean we do have Sobotka that is essentially a Patrick Kaleta that can actually contribute offensively. He puts up 30 points (just like Wilson) and he is first team PK and is 55% on the draw and supposedly he’s a cap dump at $3M a year......
- Pegullaville

Sobotka is not tom wilson

Wilson would kill him

Your point is valid for a team like the Sabres who are building and still a bit away.
That $5m could be spent on a highly skilled winger, so point well taken.

However for tne caps who were stacked, that infushion of toughness, wildness and ability to pot some points was in fact a very active ingedient to their success.

I ask this
If a tom Wilson type was enough to giive a guy like samson the confidence to stand in front of the net, to go behind the net for passes to the front...rather thaan getting killed trying to do so...is that confidence worth something? And if a player who instills that confidence can also pot 15 poi ts along the way in the playoffs...is that worth something?
Add them together, does tht nkt indeed provide higher value that eitber alone?

There is a place for Tom wilson, if he were to be a key ingedient in bring a cup to Buffalo...I would pay him $5m.
- IonSabres

Sam already does that without Wilson though

Sobotka is not tom wilson

Wilson would kill him
- Boss34

Have fun

https://hfboards.mandator...-years-5-17m-aav.2522639/

Sobotka is not tom wilson

Wilson would kill him
- Boss34

Yes but Wilson won’t win 55% of the draws, won’t make our PK unit potentially top 15 in the league, and will contribute just as much points. Sobotka will smash Kadri’s nose clean into his face. That’s good enough for me.

Sure you missed it, but we drafted dahlin.

Mitts is special, that's right, hes gonna stay in college or play in Rochester

Your so right
- Boss34

I never said he would stay in college or play in Rochester... i said he “could”

It’s “you’re”

And it was you who said Mitts will have a Barzal-like season
Then retracted bc u supposedly didn’t know Barzal was a ppg player (yeah, right)
And what’s your prediction now? 60pts?


Idk how many goals u expect him or Dahlin to score?
We still need plenty of help scoring

I’m all seriousness...
how many goals are you predicting we improve by?
I can’t believe u actually think we are all set in that department

Have fun

https://hfboards.mandator...-years-5-17m-aav.2522639/
- gerbe75pts

So sam is gonna make 30% more?

Some other genius posted that.

Mental was gonna make millions of internet money off suckers.

$7.3 a year for Samson .

People post all sorts of poop.

Some tool keeps talking about nylander being great on here

We were one of the worst scoring teams in the league last year (if not worst?)

Lost O’Reilly & Kane- 2 of our top3 scorers

Added Mitts & Sheary, and i guess u could include Berglund

That doesn’t improve us much from last year

We still need help in the goal scoring department
- jdfitz77

Add a defense with Dahlin, healthy McCabe, Guhle and you have at lease, 1 goal per game coming from the defense and at least 1 less goal being scored upon. Add a goalie who doesn't suck, and this team will be much improved.

So sam is gonna make 30% more?

Some other genius posted that.

Mental was gonna make millions of internet money off suckers.

$7.3 a year for Samson .

People post all sorts of poop.

Some tool keeps talking about nylander being great on here
- Boss34

Calling me a tool that’s fun...

Some “cartoon” said The tank was a planned event

That only works though if all those guys take team friendly deals. If Wilson making $5M a year prohibits them from signing Burakovsky and Vrana will he then be worth it ? If Burakovsky is in another teams jersey scoring and is a plug and play 25 goal scorer and you had to give him up because you were short $2M AAV is it worth it then to you ?
- Pegullaville

Well, Burakovsky and Vrana will still be RFAs next summer and the Caps will have $12m in cap space, so I don't think they'll be in trouble yet.

Add a defense with Dahlin, healthy McCabe, Guhle and you have at lease, 1 goal per game coming from the defense and at least 1 less goal being scored upon. Add a goalie who doesn't suck, and this team will be much improved.
- sskkoo1

I agree we will be improved
But we aren’t all set with goal scorers

Guhle might not be with us at the start of the season bc of the amount of NHL defensemen we still have
So idk when, or how much we can count on him?

Guhle + McCabe + Dahlin combined are gonna add up to about 25 goals...
not 82
Even if u add the rest of the defensemen, it’s not close to 1 goal per game sir

Add a defense with Dahlin, healthy McCabe, Guhle and you have at lease, 1 goal per game coming from the defense and at least 1 less goal being scored upon. Add a goalie who doesn't suck, and this team will be much improved.
- sskkoo1

?-Eichel-Thompson/Okposo
Sheary-Mitts-Reinhart
Berglund-Erod-Thompson/Okposo
Wilson-Sobotka-Pominville

Scandella-Risto
Dahlin-Bogosian
McCabe-Nelson

Package up 3 or 4 guys and some draft picks and get Eich a LW and we are in business.

Zach Bogosian
✔
@BogosianZach
I invite you to come workout with me when im back in Buffalo. If you don’t throw up I’ll buy you season tickets for the year.


Guy is such a sloth trust me take the challenge you’ll kick his ass ..

I would easily take that challenge by already get in for free

Legal or not it was still a predatory hit to the head on a player in a vulnerable position with the intent to injure. I always thought he was a POS even before the hit. All that being said, if Drury would have had his bucket strapped the results would not have been as bad.
- adambuffalo

agreed 100%

I agree we will be improved
But we aren’t all set with goal scorers

Guhle might not be with us at the start of the season bc of the amount of NHL defensemen we still have
So idk when, or how much we can count on him?

Guhle + McCabe + Dahlin combined are gonna add up to about 25 goals...
not 82
Even if u add the rest of the defensemen, it’s not close to 1 goal per game sir
- jdfitz77

Not necessarily the D scoring a goal a game, but having the ability to get the puck out of our zone and moving forward could add a lot more scoring.

no you are a sabres fan

it's common to not be able to look objectively

Neal had EVERY right to finish his check

Drury had his head turned away and looking down after the shot

the check WAS legal at the time


was it a cheap shot as far as intentions, probably

but it's not like he crossed the line and pulled a dale hunter
- homiedclown

Late hit
Shoulder to the head
It was dirty
Doesn’t matter if it involved a Sabre or not
It... was... dirty...

I thought we needed toughness to protect

Eichel
Sam
Mitts
Dahlin
Guhle

I thought maroon would bring that kind of toughness

I just cant stand the fact that our stars are gonna get roughed up, and we lack backbone.

I appreciate you acknowledging the "w"

I respect you
- Boss34

This is 100% correct. People think the reason the Sabres lost to Carolina in the 06' conference finals was because of bad luck; having 4 of our top 6 dmen injured, and oh btw Tim Connolly -- who was playing the best hockey of any player in those playoffs. All suffered injures...

That team, like every team since was soft. There there was a reason for all the injuries (besides McKee's staph infection.) It was because Carolina was extremely physical with is. They brought the physicality to the Sabres. And when you're constantly the team being roughed up, injuries are bound to happen. So in a sense, the injuries weren't based on bad luck; rather a circumstance of an extremely talented team being soft.

So why bring that up 12 years later? Well, because the current Sabres team, while they are loading up on talent, lack organizational toughness (they lack mental toughness, too, but that's a different issue.)

Eichel, Mitts, and Dahlin will be targets because of the lack of toughness. Obviously, there are no longer goons running around like it was in the 70s-90's. But there are Tom Wilson's, and if they aren't challenged (and I don't mean fighting) our star players will get taken advantage. Now this won't happen every game, and most fans won't have even notice. But it makes a difference when elite players can be on the ice knowing there is a player(s) that will partol the ice.

Also, being the aggressor gives players/teams a mental advantage, and a boost in confidence. Now I don't mean have a team full of Tom Wilson's. Not even close. But you do need some players that will initiate, and bring toughness. It's as much as a mentality as it is physically.

Not necessarily the D scoring a goal a game, but having the ability to get the puck out of our zone and moving forward could add a lot more scoring.
- adambuffalo

That’s a fair point (not what he said though)
But it’s all tbd still

And obviously having more forwards who are good scorers would help when the defense does get the puck up to them

Some tool keeps talking about nylander being great on here
- Boss34

OH MY

But, Wilson only had 35 points.

That's all that matters.


Just kidding, some people just look at the stat sheet
- Boss34

Still waiting to hear what Wilson-like player we can get, since he’s not being traded

And just how much our team goal scoring is gonna improve, since u think we are ok in that area