What the (frank) is a Grade A prospect? Seems like a silly thing to argue about as everyone has a different opinion on what that means
- CanuckDon

If Benning is going to use it, why can it not be analysed?
It deserves to be dissected if he's going to through it around. He's using it to sell tickets so I don't see it as silly.

Boeser EP Hughes Demko & maybe add AG & Dahlen. Thats 6 right there. CanucksBlarney uses their perspective of a prospect not JB’s. JB might be generous & serious thinking others might make the list.

Really doesn’t matter what is said nor written. The results will speak for themselves. Atm JB looks to be behind.
- Nighthawk

Boeser isn't a prospect.

If you're saying "maybe" and then two names, guess what? They aren't a grade A prospect.

Its pretty easy to bin the Canucks prospects.
A - Basically sure things to be Good: EP, Hughes
B - Likely to be Good: Juolevi, Demko
C - Maybe can be players: Gaudette, Dahlen, Lind, Dipietro, Woo
D - Scratch tickets: Literally everyone else. Guys like Palmu, Gadjovich, Brassard, Brisbois, Lockwood, Jasek, Rathbone, etc. are not special.

Every team has a bunch of C and D prospects. Those kids are nothing special. They more often turn into No One or the roster filler of the world like Granlund or Goldobin. It would rule if Lockwood became what Leipsic is now in 4 years. Let that sink in, and then remember how unlikely it is.

Its described in the article what their definition of it is
- Codes1087

As much I think Benning is an idiot I disagree with the authors line of thinking. IMO a grade A prospect just needs to have reasonable potential to be a top 6/top pairing and Canucks do have at least 6 if we include Demko in that ranking.

As much I think Benning is an idiot I disagree with the authors line of thinking. IMO a grade A prospect just needs to have reasonable potential to be a top 6/top pairing and Canucks do have at least 6 if we include Demko in that ranking.
- belcherbd

That's dumb. Then the top two rounds of every draft are Grade A prospects. Grade A prospects should be "can't miss players". Not just dudes that Craig Button compared to a HOFer because he loves young hockey players.

If you're not willing to differentiate, or you want things to be that loose then you'd bucket Palmu or Russain Midget in the same pile as Dahlen.

Read the article.
- Marwood

Did doesn’t mean i need spoon feeding.
Words mean not much. On the ice does.

Funny thing is. I still think the article was generous. Benning is delusional with that comment about grade A prospects
- Codes1087

I would say Dahlen is closer to an A prospect than a B prospect TBH, So i would say we have 4 A prospects. Dahlen has a high ceiling and could be a game changer on the LW in the future. he has the potential to be a 70pt guy which I would say is grade A.

What the (frank) is a Grade A prospect? Seems like a silly thing to argue about as everyone has a different opinion on what that means
- CanuckDon

Unless spoon fed is on the menu.
Old article that was posted on an old blog lives on lol

I would say Dahlen is closer to an A prospect than a B prospect TBH, So i would say we have 4 A prospects. Dahlen has a high ceiling and could be a game changer on the LW in the future. he has the potential to be a 70pt guy which I would say is grade A.
- Retinalz

Ask yourself this. Hypothetically the Canucks are putting together a trade for... Valdimir Tarasenko.

Now ask yourself which prospects the Blues are going to want. Are any trade proposals you have focused around Dahlen, or would Dahlen be piece added into the deal?

I would say Dahlen is closer to an A prospect than a B prospect TBH, So i would say we have 4 A prospects. Dahlen has a high ceiling and could be a game changer on the LW in the future. he has the potential to be a 70pt guy which I would say is grade A.
- Retinalz

Doesn't sound like an A to me.

Unless spoon fed is on the menu.
Old article that was posted on an old blog lives on lol
- Nighthawk

1 day.

Doesn't sound like an A to me.
- Marwood

Imagine if it was a report card.

"Mom, Dad, I get it. You're mad that I have all these C's on my report card. But, they're closer to B's actually. And if you consider that I could do way better next semester they're really A's."

Imagine if it was a report card.

"Mom, Dad, I get it. You're mad that I have all these C's on my report card. But, they're closer to B's actually. And if you consider that I could do way better next semester they're really A's."
- Lindenis#1

Did you live next door to me when I was growing up?

That's dumb. Then the top two rounds of every draft are Grade A prospects. Grade A prospects should be "can't miss players". Not just dudes that Craig Button compared to a HOFer because he loves young hockey players.

If you're not willing to differentiate, or you want things to be that loose then you'd bucket Palmu or Russain Midget in the same pile as Dahlen.
- Lindenis#1

I'm not sure I would say every player in the top 2 rounds but many of them yes at the time they are drafted. By D+1 that number generally drastically drops.

Do you ever hear people talk about grade C prospects? They fall into two categories IMO reasonable top6/top pairing potential and everything else which is what I think of when B grade prospects are mentioned.

I'm not sure I would say every player in the top 2 rounds but many of them yes at the time they are drafted. By D+1 that number generally drastically drops.

Do you ever hear people talk about grade C prospects? They fall into two categories IMO reasonable top6/top pairing potential and everything else which is what I think of when B grade prospects are mentioned.
- belcherbd

Yes

I'm not sure I would say every player in the top 2 rounds but many of them yes at the time they are drafted. By D+1 that number generally drastically drops.

Do you ever hear people talk about grade C prospects? They fall into two categories IMO reasonable top6/top pairing potential and everything else which is what I think of when B grade prospects are mentioned.
- belcherbd

"A" prospect, legit top line forward potential, first pairing defender, #1 goalie
"B" prospect, forward top 6 potential, second pairing defender
"C" prospect, middle 6 potential, 3rd pairing defender
"D" prospect, 4th line checker energy line player

Sound good?

Ask yourself this. Hypothetically the Canucks are putting together a trade for... Valdimir Tarasenko.

Now ask yourself which prospects the Blues are going to want. Are any trade proposals you have focused around Dahlen, or would Dahlen be piece added into the deal?
- Lindenis#1

I think you confusing grade A prospect with top prospects in the league. I assume you would only have EP and Hughes in the Grade A ranking as Canucks?? Does that mean there are only 12?15? grade A prospects in the league total?

Did you live next door to me when I was growing up?
- Marwood

Every fan base thinks their B, C and D prospects are actually the better than that as if every team in the league doesn't have their own versions of equal B, C and D prospects.

"A" prospect, legit top line forward potential, first pairing defender, #1 goalie
"B" prospect, forward top 6 potential, second pairing defender
"C" prospect, middle 6 potential, 3rd pairing defender
"D" prospect, 4th line checker energy line player

Sound good?
- manvanfan

First I've ever heard people talk about c and d prospects but whatever floats your boat .

First I've ever heard people talk about c and d prospects but whatever floats your boat .
- belcherbd

We've been talking about C and D prospects playing top line potential since before Cassels.

Sort of how you would rank teams though is by the top end. The bottom end is usually pretty close but it's how many A's and B's you have.

I think you confusing grade A prospect with top prospects in the league. I assume you would only have EP and Hughes in the Grade A ranking as Canucks?? Does that mean there are only 12?15? grade A prospects in the league total?
- belcherbd

Basically, yes. What would the difference between the two be? Grade A and Grade A+++?

Go look at a Canada WJC roster from years past, or heck, even the tournament All Star teams. Those are some of the best prospects breathing. They were the top prospects alive with top shelf pedigree. And most of them turned into middle roster filler or bottom roster whatever while a small handful reached their ceiling of top flight player.

Or go look at a random selection of top 15 picks in the draft and see how many misses exist.

A lot of teams in the league don't have a prospect they can bet on for a sure thing. To act like the Canucks have handfuls of them is crazy.

First I've ever heard people talk about c and d prospects but whatever floats your boat .
- belcherbd

yesterday's A's and B's turn into today's C's and D's. there's always a new draft to replace the A's and B's.

that way, the sunshine is perpetually shining and the future is always bright... during the off season.

Doesn't sound like an A to me.
- Marwood

Every prospect from A-D is a potential. So i guess there is no such thing as an A prospect because they are nothing but potential.

Ask yourself this. Hypothetically the Canucks are putting together a trade for... Valdimir Tarasenko.

Now ask yourself which prospects the Blues are going to want. Are any trade proposals you have focused around Dahlen, or would Dahlen be piece added into the deal?
- Lindenis#1

Dahlen would be a piece added. So would Pettersson in this case so it makes no sense. Someone like Brock Boeser would be the main piece and then someone like EP would be added in to get a guy like Tarasenko.

So I guess that means EP is not an A prospect because he would not be the main piece going for Tarasenko.

Y'all should just stop right now , step away from the keyboard and maybe go outside ... seriously two days of absolute crap discussion filling up carrols blog is enough already ! Shame ...shame on you all

Y'all should just stop right now , step away from the keyboard and maybe go outside ... seriously two days of absolute crap discussion filling up carrols blog is enough already ! Shame ...shame on you all
- Bullfrog77

I'm at work, I can't go outside.