Don't get me wrong- I agree that Yamo is a great fit with Drai. His best talent is finding open space and Drai excels at finding those open guys. The right version of Lucic would be a solid compliment, but I might sooner have Rieder on that flank- more speed on the wings opens up more lanes.

If we can clear out Lucic after a bounceback year (compliance buyout) and get a guy like Rieder signed on a solid value deal, he'd be a good compliment.
- MaximumBone

How much Goddamned money do we have tied up as it is?

How much Goddamned money do we have tied up as it is?
- HonkyTonkMan

Hopefully a lot less by then 😅

Hopefully a lot less by then 😅
- MaximumBone

It’s actually not that bad. It’s under 2million right now. Still, add in a Lucic buyout, add up the 1/2 million in overpay to Caggula, the 2million too much for that Jabroni KHL Goalie and we can get a decent winger. Chia licks pouch at cap management so I’m not surprised.

Sean Maloughney: Is Goal Scoring Going To Be An Issue For Edmonton?
A quick look at where Edmonton's scoring deficiencies came from.
- freelancer

Yes

LOL Typical Troll fan.
If you actually read a bit, you would notice ALL other Oiler's posters panned this one. Sooo....
- Beergu

2yrs ago Iggy myself and Matt Henerdon were about the only ones who knew the Hall trade was a terrible trade.
80% of Oiler fans were praising giving Hall away because he was a cancer.
Now all the bangwagoners are calling out the trade LOL

2yrs ago Iggy myself and Matt Henerdon were about the only ones who knew the Hall trade was a terrible trade.
80% of Oiler fans were praising giving Hall away because he was a cancer.
Now all the bangwagoners are calling out the trade LOL
- ifiwasgm

Well that's just false because I was one of the few posters that didn't mind the deal. Just about everyone else was of the mind that "how the (frank) did we not get more" or "it's crazy that he didn't get more for Hall".

2yrs ago Iggy myself and Matt Henerdon were about the only ones who knew the Hall trade was a terrible trade.
80% of Oiler fans were praising giving Hall away because he was a cancer.
Now all the bangwagoners are calling out the trade LOL
- ifiwasgm

Lol, that’s not how it happened at all, I remember Mr. Bobby in here talking people off the cliff and letting them know that Larsson wasn’t a garbage defenseman and that awhile it wasn’t equal value the Oilers did get a good player when most were posting that they got a 3rd pair bust.

Well that's just false because I was one of the few posters that didn't mind the deal. Just about everyone else was of the mind that "how the (frank) did we not get more" or "it's crazy that he didn't get more for Hall".
- MaximumBone

Initial reaction was that it wasn't enough, but 2yrs ago when they made the play-offs, 80% of Oiler fans were talking how getting rid of the cancer is why the team was so great now.
That's what I'm talking about, not initial reaction.

Lol, that’s not how it happened at all, I remember Mr. Bobby in here talking people off the cliff and letting them know that Larsson wasn’t a garbage defenseman and that awhile it wasn’t equal value the Oilers did get a good player when most were posting that they got a 3rd pair bust.
- smellmyfinger

Again you're talking initial reaction, not like I said, 2yrs ago.
Imagine 2yrs ago if Draisaitl and Hall were your 2nd line going into the play-offs, but most fans were saying it because Hall is gone that they were in the play-offs.
From the second the trade happened until Hall won the Hart, I've been choke by what a brutal trade that was.

Initial reaction was that it wasn't enough, but 2yrs ago when they made the play-offs, 80% of Oiler fans were talking how getting rid of the cancer is why the team was so great now.
That's what I'm talking about, not initial reaction.
- ifiwasgm

2 years ago meaning July 2016 when the Oilers had just drafted Jesse Puljujarvi 4th overall and the Hall trade had JUST happened? Seems you're bad at rather basic math

Again you're talking initial reaction, not like I said, 2yrs ago.
Imagine 2yrs ago if Draisaitl and Hall were your 2nd line going into the play-offs, but most fans were saying it because Hall is gone that they were in the play-offs.
From the second the trade happened until Hall won the Hart, I've been choke by what a brutal trade that was.
- ifiwasgm

People were saying that we made the playoffs because we were better off as a team with Larsson rather than Hall.

Yes Hall is the best player in the deal hands down but we needed Larsson more than we needed Hall. We were going to get bent over in any deal we made and Ray Shero knew it.

Again you're talking initial reaction, not like I said, 2yrs ago.
Imagine 2yrs ago if Draisaitl and Hall were your 2nd line going into the play-offs, but most fans were saying it because Hall is gone that they were in the play-offs.
From the second the trade happened until Hall won the Hart, I've been choke by what a brutal trade that was.
- ifiwasgm

You're not even correct right now, stop pretending you were the only one who knew anything a year or two ago. Most posters here knew the trade was a loss, but provided some team balance. There may have been just one or two window lickers after the playoff run saying Hall was the problem. I was one of many expecting regression last year prior to the season starting, the year before was simply too injury free to be repeated, Sekera was already out for an extended period, and then Chia traded Ebs.

You're not even correct right now, stop pretending you were the only one who knew anything a year or two ago. Most posters here knew the trade was a loss, but provided some team balance. There may have been just one or two window lickers after the playoff run saying Hall was the problem. I was one of many expecting regression last year prior to the season starting, the year before was simply too injury free to be repeated, Sekera was already out for an extended period, and then Chia traded Ebs.
- Beergu

There was whispers from former Oiler players going on record saying he wasn't the best personality in the dressing room. Hall even admitted that he didn't want to listen to the coaching staff in Edmonton.

https://edmontonjournal.c...ches-with-edmonton-oilers

IMO I think Hall and McDavid would have clashed eventually.

People were saying that we made the playoffs because we were better off as a team with Larsson rather than Hall.

Yes Hall is the best player in the deal hands down but we needed Larsson more than we needed Hall. We were going to get bent over in any deal we made and Ray Shero knew it.
- Reveen.

We may never know all the facts but it seems that was the best offer for Hall

We may never know all the facts but it seems that was the best offer for Hall
- oilpatch

This is the sticking point for most- if that's the best deal then don't make it. With Demers having toured the city that offseason, it comes down Demers and Hall Vs Larsson and Lucic. Even I would've preferred the Hall and Demers option both at the time and especially now in hindsight and I'm one of the trades biggest defenders.

This is the sticking point for most- if that's the best deal then don't make it. With Demers having toured the city that offseason, it comes down Demers and Hall Vs Larsson and Lucic. Even I would've preferred the Hall and Demers option both at the time and especially now in hindsight and I'm one of the trades biggest defenders.
- MaximumBone

The failure OF Lucics play is what has made the Hall trade look so bad. If he was even remotely close to his former self ,the trade could be acceptable ..

I would start the year with JP and Yamamoto in the minors and have Rattie, Aberg and Rieder play the top 3 right wings in hope that one of them turns into a top 6 forward.

The failure OF Lucics play is what has made the Hall trade look so bad. If he was even remotely close to his former self ,the trade could be acceptable ..
- oilpatch

This is how I see it. I can live with Lucic putting up 50 points and Larson defending well sans Hall. Not much less though.

I would start the year with JP and Yamamoto in the minors and have Rattie, Aberg and Rieder play the top 3 right wings in hope that one of them turns into a top 6 forward.
- Vanillaface

JP has been in the minors enough, and those 3 players are not top 6 forwards.

People were saying that we made the playoffs because we were better off as a team with Larsson rather than Hall.

Yes Hall is the best player in the deal hands down but we needed Larsson more than we needed Hall. We were going to get bent over in any deal we made and Ray Shero knew it.
- Reveen.

I do not agree with this at all. There was other options, without losing a game changing type player.

2 years ago meaning July 2016 when the Oilers had just drafted Jesse Puljujarvi 4th overall and the Hall trade had JUST happened? Seems you're bad at rather basic math
- MaximumBone

Yes sorry on that, I was meaning 2 play-offs seasons ago.
Last play-off season they didn't make it, 2 play-offs ago, they were ready to be contenders for the next 10yrs lol

2yrs ago Iggy myself and Matt Henerdon were about the only ones who knew the Hall trade was a terrible trade.
80% of Oiler fans were praising giving Hall away because he was a cancer.
Now all the bangwagoners are calling out the trade LOL
- ifiwasgm

We are not worthy! Hail ifiwasgm!

I do not agree with this at all. There was other options, without losing a game changing type player.
- ifiwasgm

such as

2yrs ago Iggy myself and Matt Henerdon were about the only ones who knew the Hall trade was a terrible trade.
80% of Oiler fans were praising giving Hall away because he was a cancer.
Now all the bangwagoners are calling out the trade LOL
- ifiwasgm

Yeah, no

I would start the year with JP and Yamamoto in the minors and have Rattie, Aberg and Rieder play the top 3 right wings in hope that one of them turns into a top 6 forward.
- Vanillaface

I’m not trashing this idea cause it’s awful per se. Having those kids in the minors has some validity to it.

But just for argument sake; rattie, Aberg, rieder as our top 9 rw’s is so bad it’s almost funny.

And I even get giving them a real opportunity to see if one of them turns out. But yeah, one can do that in the preseason, but we can’t just risk wins in the reg season. Reg season isn’t really “tryout” time for a team that isn’t/shouldn’t be in rebuild mode.

At least IN abergs case, he’s gotta be penciled in at 4 or extra forward with jp and even yam an inside track ahead of him