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OLDSCHOOL#6
New York Rangers
Joined: 10.14.2007

Jul 31 @ 6:18 AM ET
I think there is obviously a plan

and that's to have as little long term contracts as possible while stockpiling as many picks and prospects as they can

if ANYTHING is true right now, it's that there certainly is a plan in place and Kevin Hayes doesn't appear to be part of it

- jimbro83

This much is crystal clear. Whether or not it's management plan or Hayes plan is unclear.

Be that as it may, this rebuild will never be truly complete until, oh never mind..

I'm willing to see how this all plays out, I just hope they're not going further down the rabbit hole.


jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:10 AM ET
This much is crystal clear. Whether or not it's management plan or Hayes plan is unclear.

Be that as it may, this rebuild will never be truly complete until, oh never mind..

I'm willing to see how this all plays out, I just hope they're not going further down the rabbit hole.

- OLDSCHOOL#6


Jan Levine
New York Rangers
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jul 31 @ 7:25 AM ET
I throw the question out to you guys, but other than Lundqvist, which we all figured a long term deal was going to be a no-bracket, who else signed a one year deal and then a long term extension when eligible?
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:28 AM ET
I throw the question out to you guys, but other than Lundqvist, which we all figured a long term deal was going to be a no-bracket, who else signed a one year deal and then a long term extension when eligible?
- airjan23


did Zucc do that?
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:32 AM ET
I throw the question out to you guys, but other than Lundqvist, which we all figured a long term deal was going to be a no-bracket, who else signed a one year deal and then a long term extension when eligible?
- airjan23


Not many.

NYR simply doesn't feel that Hayes is in their future, past this year , or his demands.... financially, years or terms (NMC) we're too much.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:50 AM ET
we have 10 million in cap space you Australian crackhead
- jimbro83

rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:53 AM ET
This much is crystal clear. Whether or not it's management plan or Hayes plan is unclear.

Be that as it may, this rebuild will never be truly complete until, oh never mind..

I'm willing to see how this all plays out, I just hope they're not going further down the rabbit hole.

- OLDSCHOOL#6



Haha. We all kind of just spinning our wheels lately

.I think we all need to see these players in action and not just on paper before we realize what NYR actually has acquired this past year or so

Big picture my man, big picture!
disorca
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 07.01.2015

Jul 31 @ 7:53 AM ET
Awful.

To me this means the Rangers are willing to trade him
junaka3
Joined: 08.12.2009

Jul 31 @ 7:56 AM ET
I think Panarin ends up in NY, either this year through trade or next as UFA. I thought Hayes could’ve been a part of a deal, but now???? He can go anywhere he wants next season, which makes trading him that much harder. It’s possible he gets dealt at deadline as a rental. Best case scenario it’s to a bubble team that ends up missing playoffs!! It’s possible that time ran out and we kicked can down road... maybe he re signs? I doubt it. If they wanted him long term, they would’ve gotten it done. My concern with Hayes was I don’t believe he’ll age well. Signing him long term was risky. He’s a big guy who has to put in a lot of work at gym to keep his weight down. Maybe he didn’t want to sign long term? Boston a better long term option? I Definately think ntc played a big part, especially with expansion coming
MiloslavHorava
New York Rangers
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Joined: 02.12.2016

Jul 31 @ 8:30 AM ET
Very Disappointing deal.
UNLESS they have agreed to come to the table later in the season to work on a longer term deal.
Bird in the hand syndrome here
They are taking him, an NHL experienced player with a track record, for granted because they have "prospects" that they THINK will make him expendable.
He only becomes expendable when those guys are able to actually play in an NHL season and produce, not 20 games or less.
Talk to the Islander fans about all the prospects they amassed for the last 20 years and how many actually panned out on
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 8:32 AM ET
Very Disappointing deal.
UNLESS they have agreed to come to the table later in the season to work on a longer term deal.
Bird in the hand syndrome here
They are taking him, an NHL experienced player with a track record, for granted because they have "prospects" that they THINK will make him expendable.
He only becomes expendable when those guys are able to actually play in an NHL season and produce, not 20 games or less.
Talk to the Islander fans about all the prospects they amassed for the last 20 years and how many actually panned out on

- MiloslavHorava



Just gotta trust the process. We have no idea what transpired behind closed doors, and what Gorton has planned.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 8:35 AM ET
Not really...Chytil and Andersson have showed promise, and what better year to go w/ them? Howden will probably be on big club by next year. If he stays healthy, Zib is a top notch 2nd or 1B center. One would think that a #1 Center is coming one way or another in the next few years.
- rrentz


Hayes is better
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jul 31 @ 8:35 AM ET
Haha. We all kind of just spinning our wheels lately

.I think we all need to see these players in action and not just on paper before we realize what NYR actually has acquired this past year or so

Big picture my man, big picture!

- rrentz

I did not think so many people would have so many issues with the rebuild, especially because it was laid out like a red carpet in front of us. With divas and bling all over the motha effa. Like was this a surprise to people? Can’t they listen to or read team issued letters? haha

On Hayes, I’m of the impression all this deal did was give both the team and player more options. I’m not sold that he wouldn’t be on the 2019-20 roster.

rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 8:47 AM ET
I did not think so many people would have so many issues with the rebuild, especially because it was laid out like a red carpet in front of us. With divas and bling all over the motha effa. Like was this a surprise to people? Can’t they listen to or read team issued letters? haha

On Hayes, I’m of the impression all this deal did was give both the team and player more options. I’m not sold that he wouldn’t be on the 2019-20 roster.

- Slimtj100



I have mixed feelings as well. If he was signed long term, he could still be traded mid contract, but like I said, we have no idea what went down in negotiations, and as far as we know, Hayes might have insisted on NMC for him to sign a multi year deal. His agent isn't stupid, and can sense that Hayes would probably be odd man out in a year or two, and didn't want to sign a multi-year deal and then be traded. This way Hayes has 31 teams to chosse from as an UFA....even if he is traded at deadline. Makes sense on Hayes front

Everyone is assuming that NYR , and not Hyaes is the reason long term deal didn't get done.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jul 31 @ 8:48 AM ET
Hayes is better
- mdw7413

How do you sleep at night with all this Hayes stuff going on
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 8:50 AM ET
How do you sleep at night with all this Hayes stuff going on
- TPC


Heroin
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 8:54 AM ET
Just gotta trust the process. We have no idea what transpired behind closed doors, and what Gorton has planned.
- rrentz

As long as this guy is still in the picture, I question the process.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 8:57 AM ET
I have mixed feelings as well. If he was signed long term, he could still be traded mid contract, but like I said, we have no idea what went down in negotiations, and as far as we know, Hayes might have insisted on NMC for him to sign a multi year deal. His agent isn't stupid, and can sense that Hayes would probably be odd man out in a year or two, and didn't want to sign a multi-year deal and then be traded. This way Hayes has 31 teams to chosse from as an UFA....even if he is traded at deadline. Makes sense on Hayes front

Everyone is assuming that NYR , and not Hyaes is the reason long term deal didn't get done.

- rrentz

There you go making sense again.
tbreinold
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.14.2007

Jul 31 @ 9:00 AM ET
As long as this guy is still in the picture, I question the process.

- Fenrir



Say what you want about that guy, but he managed to get us to two conference finals and a Stanley cup final in a four year period.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:05 AM ET
Say what you want about that guy, but he managed to get us to two conference finals and a Stanley cup final in a four year period.
- tbreinold


Every GM has some moves/picks that they regret, but the Jessimen pick and a few other doooozies are unforgivable to some I guess.

He's simply working for stogies nowadays anyway. Gorton is in charge
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:07 AM ET
Say what you want about that guy, but he managed to get us to two conference finals and a Stanley cup final in a four year period.
- tbreinold

Time to put Sather out to pasture. Gorton is going to bring us the Cup, not a mere SCF loss.

I hope.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:08 AM ET
Time to put Sather out to pasture. Gorton is going to bring us the Cup, not a mere SCF loss.

I hope.

- Fenrir


WOW!!!! Another optimist
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:08 AM ET
Every GM has some moves/picks that they regret, but the Jessimen pick and a few other doooozies are unforgivable to some I guess.

He's simply working for stogies nowadays anyway. Gorton is in charge

- rrentz

I know hockey is a business, but some moves are unforgivable to fans.
He did get us a good run, though.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:10 AM ET
WOW!!!! Another optimist
- rrentz

rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:10 AM ET
I know hockey is a business, but some moves are unforgivable to fans.
He did get us a good run, though.

- Fenrir



I betcha if we actuallly researched every GMs moves, we would all be shocked by some of their blunders as well
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