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Forums :: Blog World :: Jan Levine: Hayes inked to one-yr deal, UFA after the season, poor decision by NYR
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rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 9:11 AM ET

- Fenrir



Might as well be a "glass half full" guy when it comes to the NYR. Plenty of real stuff in our lives to be pessimistic about...no?
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:12 AM ET
I betcha if we actuallly researched every GMs moves, we would all be shocked by some of their blunders as well
- rrentz

Definitely. Ottawa's recent moves come to mind, even Uncle Lou has made some questionable decisions.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 9:13 AM ET

- Fenrir

Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:16 AM ET
Might as well be a "glass half full" guy when it comes to the NYR. Plenty of real stuff in our lives to be pessimistic about...no?
- rrentz

I was just thirsty.
That's what sports are supposed to be, a distraction from real life. What happens at the Garden has no direct impact on what happens in my daily life. Might be bummed about a game (or season), or a trade, ultimately life goes on.
Fenrir
New York Rangers
Location: Jesus saves! Satan picks up the rebound...AND SCORES!!, NJ
Joined: 04.02.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:17 AM ET

- mdw7413

21peter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Peter I Island
Joined: 11.18.2014

Jul 31 @ 9:23 AM ET
I have mixed feelings as well. If he was signed long term, he could still be traded mid contract, but like I said, we have no idea what went down in negotiations, and as far as we know, Hayes might have insisted on NMC for him to sign a multi year deal. His agent isn't stupid, and can sense that Hayes would probably be odd man out in a year or two, and didn't want to sign a multi-year deal and then be traded. This way Hayes has 31 teams to chosse from as an UFA....even if he is traded at deadline. Makes sense on Hayes front

Everyone is assuming that NYR , and not Hyaes is the reason long term deal didn't get done.

- rrentz

100% spot on!
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Jul 31 @ 9:34 AM ET
I throw the question out to you guys, but other than Lundqvist, which we all figured a long term deal was going to be a no-bracket, who else signed a one year deal and then a long term extension when eligible?
- airjan23

Makes no difference if anybody did it I think gorton is hoping Hayes has a good year and if the kids play well he goes at the deadline if he has a monster year then he stays and gets paid. I think the ntc had a lot to do with this. I think he has a good year and is locked up next year.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:04 AM ET
Rangers gonna build a Dynasty after this year when they end up trading; Hayes for a 1st. Zucc for a 2nd and a prospect. Plus, Spooner for a 2nd.

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 10:28 AM ET
100% spot on!
- 21peter


Yeah, I agree with that as well.

I don't like the deal, but it takes two to tango and if the Hayes camp was asking for things in terms of salary, term and no movement clauses that the Rangers were uncomfortable doing, then maybe they just made the call that they were better off not extending Hayes long-term. I do know this: eventually the Rangers are going to spend all the money they have available to be competitive, and maybe they would prefer to spend that money next summer on someone with bigger game breaking potential then to be locked into Hayes at $6 million per long term (just an example of what he may have been asking for).

Again, it's not ideal, but they may have viewed the long-term option as worse given Hayes' demands.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 10:31 AM ET
Yeah, I agree with that as well.

I don't like the deal, but it takes two to tango and if the Hayes camp was asking for things in terms of salary, term and no movement clauses that the Rangers were uncomfortable doing, then maybe they just made the call that they were better off not extending Hayes long-term. I do know this: eventually the Rangers are going to spend all the money they have available to be competitive, and maybe they would prefer to spend that money next summer on someone with bigger game breaking potential then to be locked into Hayes at $6 million per long term (just an example of what he may have been asking for).

Again, it's not ideal, but they may have viewed the long-term option as worse given Hayes' demands.

- Pete V


It could also be that Gorton (frank)ed up and Hayes demands were reasonable.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:32 AM ET
It could also be that Gorton (frank)ed up and Hayes demands were reasonable.
- mdw7413

Is this gonna be you to Gorton when Hayes gets later'd?

https://twitter.com/KFCBa...tatus/1024155037063364608
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:33 AM ET
I’m not sure NYR had a choice. Hayes would either have taken them to arbitration, where he could have received even more in an award on a 1 year deal and still walk next year, or they sign him to whatever his demands were which was likely 6.5m for 5+ years which is a huge risk
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:36 AM ET
Is this gonna be you to Gorton when Hayes gets later'd?

https://twitter.com/KFCBa...tatus/1024155037063364608

- eichiefs9


ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

my gawd
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 10:36 AM ET
It could also be that Gorton (frank)ed up and Hayes demands were reasonable.
- mdw7413


That's possible to, but we will never know.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jul 31 @ 10:37 AM ET
That's possible to, but we will never know.
- Pete V

If Hayes performs well, he could bring back a hell of a return at the deadline
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:38 AM ET
That's possible to, but we will never know.
- Pete V


the final chapter of the Kevin Hayes NYR book has yet to be written

so we should hold off on totally analyzing the book just yet
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 10:40 AM ET
If Hayes performs well, he could bring back a hell of a return at the deadline
- rangerdanger94


Sure, or he could get hurt and the Rangers could get nothing.

And how much more can you expect than a late first round pick and maybe a decent prospect? I would much prefer an NHL ready player for Hayes.
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:40 AM ET
If Hayes performs well, he could bring back a hell of a return at the deadline
- rangerdanger94

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jul 31 @ 10:41 AM ET
the final chapter of the Kevin Hayes NYR book has yet to be written

so we should hold off on totally analyzing the book just yet

- jimbro83


That is true, but nonetheless, I am going to start looking into who I want from Montreal.
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 10:41 AM ET
Is this gonna be you to Gorton when Hayes gets later'd?

https://twitter.com/KFCBa...tatus/1024155037063364608

- eichiefs9



JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Coach's decision, PEI
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:51 AM ET
I can't wait for this season so we can watch Hayes put up 65 points and walk.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:52 AM ET
I can't wait for this season so we can watch Hayes put up 65 points and walk.
- JRR1285


no matter what, I really doubt they would let him get to UFA status, we aren't the Icelanders
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jul 31 @ 10:54 AM ET
no matter what, I really doubt they would let him get to UFA status, we aren't the Icelanders
- jimbro83


Does Hayes have Bruins jammies?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jul 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
I can't wait for this season so we can watch Hayes put up 65 points and walk.
- JRR1285

I'm just glad I'm a fan of an organization that nobody would ever walk away from in free agency
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jul 31 @ 10:55 AM ET
I can't wait for this season so we can watch Hayes put up 65 points and walk.
- JRR1285

Gorton trusts in the tank. Hayes ain't walkin'.
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