Can you imagine if Benning could have traded the twins and Edler 4 years ago ? You could have had 3 extra firsts 3 extra high end prospects and been in the running for McDavid Eichel Matthews Laine Nicco Dahlin .

Thanks Linden
- VANTEL

Rebuild would be complete by now if that were the case.

"He must be good at his job or why else would he have it?"

Hear that a lot about any kind of management team/person in sports. I've worked for a lot of bosses that have failed upwards or knew how to play The Game at management level to move up despite performance. Dave Nonis is still employed. Peter Chiarelli manages a paycheque. It took nearly a decade for Jay Feaster's goodwill to run out as an executive, and when he was writing for THN people treated it as gospel.

My favourite conversation overheard at a game was some dude trying to impress these girls with his Canucks knowledge. "You know, a lot of people crap on the Gudbranson trade. But people forget Stecher was a throw-in on that deal and he has Norris potential all over him."
- Lindenis#1

So he is here for 4 years and then wakes up and screams rebuild and stamps his feet saying the team is not rebuilding properly once his close friends retire . Seems a bit two faced .

Most of the heavy lifting is already done and then he decides to panic. Oh well see ya
- VANTEL

Its (frank)ing annoying. Imagine if we scroll through the last 2 years of posts and quoted every time one of our posters here said Linden is a big part of the problem. Even more annoying is how many of these people have changed their position in a heartbeat to fit their beef. Linden was the only strength in our management.


Clearly its more about having someone to whip as usual.

Easier said than done. I agree somewhat but it could never happen. I maintain we were hamstrung by cup runs & it was always going to be a painful process.
- Nighthawk

You can make all the excuses you want but Calgary did it with Iggy and their goalie.

They were on a cup run a few years earlie

This is a horrible cliche. Wrong more often than not.
- boonerbuck

Its parroting nothing more.
Truth is transparency of the inner workings is never fully known. Keeps the Pratts of the world spinning out their ignorance. Besides who really cares about a Pres for any team. Its all about who they hire & delegate duties to is their main role. So how do we stand on that front is the real question?

So he is here for 4 years and then wakes up and screams rebuild and stamps his feet saying the team is not rebuilding properly once his close friends retire . Seems a bit two faced .

Most of the heavy lifting is already done and then he decides to panic. Oh well see ya
- VANTEL

Yeah, I don't think we're really any worse off without him.

- NorthNuck

The amount of people at bars/games/online who don't know how players were acquired is mind boggling.

I heard a dude talk about why on earth the Canucks traded for Eriksson.

People underestimate how out of touch a casual can be. You're going to get a lot of "band wagon" fans when you've got a high population on non-traditional hockey fans mixed with like 20-30-40 other worthwhile things to do with your money and time compared to spending it on a poop club.

It isn't like Edmonton or Calgary where its CFL/NHL and thats the only thing people have to care about and do with their day.

Linden or no Linden, there was never going to be a Sedin trade. IF they waived(never going to happen), they would want to be traded together. How many teams can work that out and give the Canucks something to build a team around? If there is anyone to blame it's FA and Gillis on that.... I know I know.... doesn't fit he new narrative.

Fantasies. Pure child like fantasies.

Can you imagine if Benning could have traded the twins and Edler 4 years ago ? You could have had 3 extra firsts 3 extra high end prospects and been in the running for McDavid Eichel Matthews Laine Nicco Dahlin .

Thanks GMMG
- VANTEL

Corrected for accuracy 😂😂

Its (frank)ing annoying. Imagine if we scroll through the last 2 years of posts and quoted every time one of our posters here said Linden is a big part of the problem. Even more annoying is how many of these people have changed their position in a heartbeat to fit their beef. Linden was the only strength in our management.


Clearly its more about having someone to whip as usual.
- boonerbuck

Linden was and is just as big a part of the problem as JB JW FA. Nothing has changed on that front for me. Only difference is we will see how much of a problem he was by the moves JB now makes over the next year.

So he is here for 4 years and then wakes up and screams rebuild and stamps his feet saying the team is not rebuilding properly once his close friends retire . Seems a bit two faced .

Most of the heavy lifting is already done and then he decides to panic. Oh well see ya
- VANTEL

Tearing things down to be bad is not the hard part. That's the easiest poop in the world. This team bumbled their way into being dreadful.

Digging yourself out of the basement is the true heavy lifting.

Its (frank)ing annoying. Imagine if we scroll through the last 2 years of posts and quoted every time one of our posters here said Linden is a big part of the problem. Even more annoying is how many of these people have changed their position in a heartbeat to fit their beef. Linden was the only strength in our management.


Clearly its more about having someone to whip as usual.
- boonerbuck

Always hated the Linden signing . No experience and personal friend of 10 players when he came on board. You can't make decisions what's best for the team when you have a personal relationship with so many players.

Adios Trev too bad it took so long.

We'll see at trade deadline just how much FA wants playoffs.

As far as the argument whether Linden was fired or stepped down.... I think that can be determined if he is still going to be on the payroll or not. I assume, if he stepped down on his own, he walks away from his contract and no longer gets paid? If he was forced to step down, he will still get paid. Am I correct?

Tearing things down to be bad is not the hard part. That's the easiest poop in the world. This team bumbled their way into being dreadful.

Digging yourself out of the basement is the true heavy lifting.
- Lindenis#1

That is what happens when you hang on to players too long

Corrected for accuracy 😂😂
- Nighthawk

Gillis has been gone 5 years so you are wrong

That is what happens when you hang on to players too long
- VANTEL

And when you target piles of poop who can't play and get stuck with them for the long term.

Linden was and is just as big a part of the problem as JB JW FA. Nothing has changed on that front for me. Only difference is we will see how much of a problem he was by the moves JB now makes over the next year.
- thundachunk

If we were not hamstrung with contracts & FA left hockey ppl to deal with hockey much would be better. TL is only 1 person in the equation who had to do his bosses bidding. An owner is a fool if he cannot hire ppl & leave them to do the job. Money is a poor way to operate a pro sports team. The Leafs once they got out of their own way are proof. The Yotes on the opposite end of the scale show the bottom line makes for a bottom feeder. Sens are the biggest example of both combined.

And when you target piles of poop who can't play and get stuck with them for the long term.
- Lindenis#1

I am not sure of who signed Eriksson but they should be gone

Always hated the Linden signing . No experience and personal friend of 10 players when he came on board. You can't make decisions what's best for the team when you have a personal relationship with so many players.

Adios Trev too bad it took so long.
- VANTEL

I always looked at the Linden addition as more of a media defense. They always loved him. He has hockey front office experience,,, you are wrong there. He was pres of the NHLPA... another hole in a false narrative around here. Its not uncommon for a person with his qualifications to land NHL jobs like he did.

I totally agree with the conflict of interest with all those players. Something less of an issue than when he was in the NHLPA(Chelios and gang turned on him though). On the other hand... this goes against other people's narrative on how Linden wanted to turn around vets blah blah blah.... I lean towards he only just started preaching that 4 years in... but I can only speculate.

Gillis has been gone 5 years so you are wrong
- VANTEL

Only now is his legacy gone

Gillis has been gone 5 years so you are wrong
- VANTEL

Are you arguing with people....... Without me? We are a team you know!

Gillis has been gone 5 years so you are wrong
- VANTEL

Nonsense. Once the Sedins were signed, there was no out. Gillis and FA are holding the bag til the end of the contract. No deflections allowed unless you are willing to retract that one year female dog session about how this was going to happen if they re-signed the Sedins back when....

I am not sure of who signed Eriksson but they should be gone
- VANTEL

Part of the people responsible were just "let go".

Only now is his legacy gone
- Nighthawk

I thought his scrotee was his legacy?

I am not sure of who signed Eriksson but they should be gone
- VANTEL

Eriksson. Gudbranson. Sbisa. Sutter. Gagner. There's a real possibility that Beagle and Roussel are problems by year 2.

This management team's pro scouting and UFA contract negotiations are worse than those clueless dudes I was talking about in the bar.