We’ll see how this year goes
After his hot start last year,
Pommer seemed avaerage at best the rest of the way
I’d be surprised if we signed him again after this season
- jdfitz77

Yeah, not gonna happen. On the upshot for him, looks like the Senators are gonna need to spend to get to the floor

90 points is my call. Fall just short. Somewhere around 9th or 10th in the conference
- SabreWest

All depends on where they are for the TDL.

If they’re fighting for a spot they’ll be buyers.

Anyone have a guess to what another deal might be?
- SDSabre

MTL is supposedly not happy with what teams are offering for Patch

Maybe this trade sets the market for him?

Homie has said that the Sabres have had multiple talks with MTL about him
So maybe Pacioretty if they’re willing to drop their price?

Wtf are you talking about? I can have it any way I want it. If I think the past gm got fired too early, I can think that. If I think Botts did a nice job bringing in Skinner for nothing I think is meaningful, I can think that. They are independent events. Go try to paint somebody else in a corner.
- Hatboro_Swords

You claim the archives don't lie all the time. You should go back and read some of your own stuff about Botts and GMTM. I think you painted yourself into a corner. Beautiful thing about being a person is the ability to change your mind when new information presents itself. Turns out GMTM usually got fleeced for elite talent, where being patient, similar talent could be had for pennies.

i could care less about your gremmer lessons
- TheSabresTaco

its a doggy dog world out their

All depends on where they are for the TDL.

If they’re fighting for a spot they’ll be buyers.
- dadeadhead

I'd say 35-40 wins. Put us on track, but still improvement needed while the last of the dead weight contracts come off.

i’m honestly not sure are we going to be trading for another winger ? That just seems like overkill doesn’t It
- gerbe75pts

Maybe a RH defenseman?

I might even go this way for the top 6

Skinner Jack Okposo
Sheary Casey Sam

Okposo is defensively decent to help Jack and Skinner in that regard.
- Stripes77

I’d guess they try different groupings with those 6 to see who works best together

I'd say 35-40 wins. Put us on track, but still improvement needed while the last of the dead weight contracts come off.
- ImThatGuy

Anything lower than low-80s in points is really bad.

Botts gave Housley the horses, now he's gotta make em run

One option is you get to training camp, you see who's who in the pecking order, then probably see what you can get for one or two of Bowls, Johan Girgensons or Nick Bailey.

I can't imagine a blockbuster at this stage. Perhaps some tinkering or one of the guys above being traded for a low pick and a useful AHL guy? Who knows.
- TheSabresTaco

Wouldn’t mind seeing Botts pull off the
4 for 1 trade that Homie was talking about

Can Ottawa trade Stone now?

If so, can he immediately sign an extension?
- jcragcrumple

I’d trade a 1st + for him
Stone would easily be my top trade target

I’d trade a 1st + for him
Stone would easily be my top trade target
- jdfitz77

We would have to shed some salary. 2 firsts, Nylander, Okposo and Borgen?

It's a ton to give up, but....

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-Stone

That's a pretty nasty top-6

its a doggy dog world out their
- IndianaSabresFan

What you would do
- SabreWest

Sheary-Eichel-Okposo
*wanna get Okposo’s stats up so we can trade him next offseason hopefully

Skinner-Mittelstadt-Reinhart

Sobatka-Berglund-Pominville

Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
*hoping that as the season moves along, any of these guys look good enough to move up & replace Pommer &/or Sobatka

Wilson as the extra
Trade Larsson & Girgensons for whatever we can get
Thompson & the other kids in Rochester

We would have to shed some salary. 2 firsts, Nylander, Okposo and Borgen?

It's a ton to give up, but....

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-Stone

That's a pretty nasty top-6
- jcragcrumple

I don’t think Okposo is tradable right now
Right now we have 6.47mil in Cap room,
so yeah...
we would have to move out some salary to afford him & sign Sam

To get a guy as good as Stone though,
I’d figure out some way to make it work with the Cap
He’s sweet

i could care less about your gremmer lessons
- TheSabresTaco

How much less, though?

I don’t think Okposo is tradable right now
Right now we have 6.47mil in Cap room,
so yeah...
we would have to move out some salary to afford him & sign Sam

To get a guy as good as Stone though,
I’d figure out some way to make it work with the Cap
He’s sweet
- jdfitz77

That's why I threw in the 2nd first. Stone also has a great 2-way game. I'm just getting greedy at this point, but stone would be awesome.

Given Ottawa's reduced leverage with their bizarre signing, because now a team can't re-sign him until January, I think a realistic proposal would be Reinhart and a 2nd?

Don't think I would do it. We're opening up a good chunk of cap next year, I would have no problem opening up the wallet for him July 1, 2019

More likely in Rochester

NONE of the guys are Jbotts guys
- Boss34

That doesn’t necessarily mean he doesn’t like them though

We’ll see what happens
I know that I’m one of the few on here who haven’t given up on Bailey & Baptiste

We would have to shed some salary. 2 firsts, Nylander, Okposo and Borgen?

It's a ton to give up, but....

Skinner-Eichel-Reinhart
Sheary-Mitts-Stone

That's a pretty nasty top-6
- jcragcrumple

You hit it. We're close enough to the cap that money in has to equal money out. That makes it significantly harder to swing a big deal.

My prediction:


Goaltending alone gets this team 4 more wins off the bat so they go from 62 points to 70 points.

Having Skinner and Sheary in the top 6 gives them 3 more wins so 70 points to 76 points.

Having Eichel play a full season gets them 3 more wings so 76 points to 82

Not having Gorges in the lineup and having Dahlin instead gives them 2 more wins 82 points to 86

Having a 3rd and 4th line of real NHL players and not just a bottom 6 of total scrubs gives them 2 more wins so 86 points to 90

Sabres finish with 14 more wins than last season

39-31-12 90 points

90 points is my call. Fall just short. Somewhere around 9th or 10th in the conference
- SabreWest

Then win the lotto!

Skinner on WGR now

That's why I threw in the 2nd first. Stone also has a great 2-way game. I'm just getting greedy at this point, but stone would be awesome.

Given Ottawa's reduced leverage with their bizarre signing, because now a team can't re-sign him until January, I think a realistic proposal would be Reinhart and a 2nd?

Don't think I would do it. We're opening up a good chunk of cap next year, I would have no problem opening up the wallet for him July 1, 2019
- jcragcrumple

We’ll have a lot of competition though
And he probably gets more as a free agent then if we trade for & extend him

Pommer & Moulson Off the books next year = Skinner contract extension!

Skinner just said this was the only trade they brought to him
He didn’t turn down any others

Sheary-Eichel-Okposo
*wanna get Okposo’s stats up so we can trade him next offseason hopefully

Skinner-Mittelstadt-Reinhart

Sobatka-Berglund-Pominville

Bailey-Rodrigues-Baptiste
*hoping that as the season moves along, any of these guys look good enough to move up & replace Pommer &/or Sobatka

Wilson as the extra
Trade Larsson & Girgensons for whatever we can get
Thompson & the other kids in Rochester
- jdfitz77

I am safe in assuming that you are not a fan of Girgenson? The boys on the Instigators said that he is having a great summer working with Matt Ellis at Harbor Center getting his game back in order. I prefer to keep him a little longer, he is still young and he does things well that would serve him in a bottom 6 role.