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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 11 @ 11:02 AM ET
I don't think anyone even wants him in the opening night roster. in his seasons here he hasnt even come close to any of the expectations. Yet we keep hearing from JB that he does all the right things. Bullcrap. Cut our losses. We are just flogging a dead horse with him in the line up. He is not a fit.
- thundachunk

Even though you are paying Eriksson 6 million dollars, he's still better then the other crap. Get over his salary, he's still better then Gaunce, Dowd, Chaput, Megna, Granlund types that have held roster spots on this team for years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:05 AM ET
Even though you are paying Eriksson 6 million dollars, he's still better then the other crap. Get over his salary, he's still better then Gaunce, Dowd, Chaput, Megna, Granlund types that have held roster spots on this team for years.
- manvanfan



Chaput Megna and Dowd are gone. He is better than Gaunce for sure and probably Granlund .

I agree forget the salary and ice the best team
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Aug 11 @ 11:09 AM ET
Chaput Megna and Dowd are gone. He is better than Gaunce for sure and probably Granlund .

I agree forget the salary and ice the best team

- VANTEL

No....ice a non competitive team to get a good draft lottery position
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:10 AM ET
No....ice a non competitive team to get a good draft lottery position
- LeftCoaster



Because it has worked so well for us in the past?

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:13 AM ET
Tkachuck will sign with the Sens this year
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
The league is about scoring. Even when they have poopty seasons Gagner and Eriksson outscore Gaunce and Roussel
- manvanfan


Not if you consider goals against, otherwise known as net goals for. Guance is a net positive goals for player, Gagner and Beagle are net negative goals for players.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:14 AM ET
If Canucks are true to their word then salary won't matter .


Boeser EP Bo Sutter Sven Jake Roussel Beagle Schaller Leipsic Gaudette (11 players)


Leftovers

Gagner Granlund Goldobin Gaunce and Loui ( 2 spots open)

- VANTEL

Whether we like it or not it does matter.

Gagner and LE will have their spots at years start.

Only one that could possibly take a spot is Granlund as he has shown flashes of playing well. Gaunce and Goldy will most likely start in Utica until injuries.

just my take
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:16 AM ET
Whether we like it or not it does matter.

Gagner and LE will have their spots at years start.

Only one that could possibly take a spot is Granlund as he has shown flashes of playing well. Gaunce and Goldy will most likely start in Utica until injuries.

just my take

- LordHumungous



We will see .
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 11 @ 11:17 AM ET
Chaput Megna and Dowd are gone. He is better than Gaunce for sure and probably Granlund .

I agree forget the salary and ice the best team

- VANTEL

That's all i'm saying.

Difference between this years team and previous teams is you don't have to ask players like Eriksson and Granlund to take up primary defensive roles. Thanks to Roussel, Beagle, Schaller. Could allow Granlund and Eriksson to take up more 2 way roles playing with more offensive players.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:18 AM ET
If Loui is scoring 25 then of course you would keep him over a guy like Roussel

If Loui scores 13 and is paid 6 mil while a guy like Roussel scores 10 at half the cost and stirs poop and is better defensively then who cares about those extra 3 goals Loui gets.

If Benning ices his 13 best forwards then there is no issue. Just don't ice a team according to salary commitment .

- VANTEL


Hmmm.... so if Beagle scores 7 goals and is paid 3 million while a guy like guance scores 5 at one third the cost and is better defensively then who cares about the extra 2 goals beagle gets.

If Benning ices his 12 best forwards then there is no issues. Just don't ice beagle because of salary commitments.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:20 AM ET
If Canucks are true to their word then salary won't matter .


Boeser EP Bo Sutter Sven Jake Roussel Schaller Leipsic Gaudette (10 players)


Leftovers

Gagner Granlund Goldobin Gaunce Beagle and Loui ( 3 spots open)

- VANTEL


Fixed, I agree for the most part.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
Hmmm.... so if Beagle scores 7 goals and is paid 3 million while a guy like guance scores 5 at one third the cost and is better defensively then who cares about the extra 2 goals beagle gets.

If Benning ices his 12 best forwards then there is no issues. Just don't ice beagle because of salary commitments.

- Pres.cup



Beagle can score seven in one year though not like Gaunce who has taken a career to score 5
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 11 @ 11:21 AM ET
Not if you consider goals against, otherwise known as net goals for. Guance is a net positive goals for player, Gagner and Beagle are net negative goals for players.
- Pres.cup

They should probably ice an entire team of Gaunce's then. Can win 1-0 every game.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:22 AM ET
Hmmm.... so if Beagle scores 7 goals and is paid 3 million while a guy like guance scores 5 at one third the cost and is better defensively then who cares about the extra 2 goals beagle gets.

If Benning ices his 12 best forwards then there is no issues. Just don't ice beagle because of salary commitments.

- Pres.cup



Why don't you at least wait until the guy plays an actual game for us before you start crapping all over him?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:26 AM ET
Why don't you at least wait until the guy plays an actual game for us before you start crapping all over him?
- VANTEL

Beagle is going to help this club just his term sucks a bit. Many Caps fans say they don't win no cup without Beagle in the lineup.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:29 AM ET
Beagle is going to help this club just his term sucks a bit. Many Caps fans say they don't win no cup without Beagle in the lineup.
- LordHumungous



By the time Beagle final two years come in Canucks will have tons of cap space and if they really need another player to fill that role it won't be an issue. You can bet Beagle knows he was given extra years as a signing bonus and security for his family. Wether he actually gets to play those final two years is another subject for another day.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:33 AM ET
Why don't you at least wait until the guy plays an actual game for us before you start crapping all over him?
- VANTEL


Perhaps... he's old balls and overpaid, worst contract then Eriksson imo.
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
Beagle is going to help this club just his term sucks a bit. Many Caps fans say they don't win no cup without Beagle in the lineup.
- LordHumungous


We're not winning a cup with beagle... so why bother?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
If Canucks are true to their word then salary won't matter .


Boeser EP Bo Sutter Sven Jake Roussel Beagle Schaller Leipsic Gaudette (11 players)


Leftovers

Gagner Granlund Goldobin Gaunce and Loui ( 2 spots open)

- VANTEL

Im rooting for Grandlund and Goldobin.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:34 AM ET
Perhaps... he's old balls and overpaid, worst contract then Eriksson imo.
- Pres.cup



I am glad you are happy
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Aug 11 @ 11:36 AM ET
Im rooting for Grandlund and Goldobin.
- thundachunk



I want to see what Leipsic does this year . He impressed me last year. Goldobin is at the make or break stage and same with Gaunce .

They either prove themselves as NHLers or it's back to KHL and Utica
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 11 @ 11:39 AM ET
The thing I like is Green told him and Sutter . You need to come back a lot better than what you were. Whatever you did for previous training , switch it up. Sounds like a few people with the Canucks are tired of their performance also.
- VANTEL

I’m hoping with Green the country club era ends.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Aug 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
I want to see what Leipsic does this year . He impressed me last year. Goldobin is at the make or break stage and same with Gaunce .

They either prove themselves as NHLers or it's back to KHL and Utica

- VANTEL

15-20 games with top 6 minutes would be a good test of consistency. He has the ability. Leipsic I mean.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Aug 11 @ 11:45 AM ET
We're not winning a cup with beagle... so why bother?
- Pres.cup

Draft and Develop, that's why.

Last season you saw players like Burmistrov, Rodin, Wierchoich.

Year before Chaput, Megna, Skille, Rendulic.

Signing cheap players aren't assets because they can't play in the league. The youth are better then these players already. Those players suck.

Beagle, Schaller, Roussel, Gagner, MDZ show they can play and contribute in the league.(While not as much as some would place on them).
Pres.cup
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Making the most of the worst situation... Canuck fan 4life , BC
Joined: 12.23.2014

Aug 11 @ 11:49 AM ET
By the time Beagle final two years come in Canucks will have tons of cap space and if they really need another player to fill that role it won't be an issue. You can bet Beagle knows he was given extra years as a signing bonus and security for his family. Wether he actually gets to play those final two years is another subject for another day.
- VANTEL


Eriksson and his overpayment are in the same boat.
Eriksson equals a rich man's beagle
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