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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Aug 15 @ 2:40 PM ET
“his stats are pretty inflated given his time with Buff”
“Wouldn’t expect big numbers from him on another team”
I know my comment was a bit of a trap, but that was an instant turn. Sweet baby raptor Jesus, it’s already starting.

No. It’s not true. I’m making a joke about how Morrissey isn’t getting any of the hate spewed at him like Trouba did for not signing immediately and forever.

- Rexypoo



Phew....you got me going there for sure! I really like Morrissey and his defensive abilities compliment Buff perfectly. I do think his stats are higher than what he would expect on a different team, and that is probably a reason for the delay in negotiations. Not alone tho, Nurse is still unsigned. Maybe the jets could offer him the max (while forfeiting just a 2nd rd) 4.2M offer sheet and pry him off the cash strapped Oilers. That would certainly allow for Trouba to be dealt sooner than later if accepted.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 15 @ 2:57 PM ET
Phew....you got me going there for sure! I really like Morrissey and his defensive abilities compliment Buff perfectly. I do think his stats are higher than what he would expect on a different team, and that is probably a reason for the delay in negotiations. Not alone tho, Nurse is still unsigned. Maybe the jets could offer him the max (while forfeiting just a 2nd rd) 4.2M offer sheet and pry him off the cash strapped Oilers. That would certainly allow for Trouba to be dealt sooner than later if accepted.
- bikeguy99


I honestly think Morrissey would have better numbers on another team. The PP time and increased overall time would put him near 40 points. He’s our #3, but he’s a more of a low end, too pairing guy, and he’s not at his best yet.

Also, no to Nurse. He’s not close to Trouba’s level, and he can’t carry Myers.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Aug 15 @ 4:02 PM ET
No offence cause I appreciate any and all insights but Taveras signing in Toronto and seguin re signing in dallas are not risks, they were or are actually the most likely scenarios.
- Ross77


If you just read Ek's latest BS you would believe otherwise. Anyways, EK's column is atrocious reporting. He will sign with Dallas shortly with extremely high certainty. Tavares was no guess. Neither is this. I'm not one to spread false rumors and be like Ek.

.... And yes, you could claim its a lucky guess but then again he wasn't even on the radar when I mentioned it last week so it would be hard to suddenly predict it and also get lucky on the timing. I also now have heard that he went into media blackout on Sunday.

BTW...Myers was never played as a third pairing. That was Enstrom. I believe that debate was settled quite some time ago.
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Aug 15 @ 4:03 PM ET
Based on talent, age, production levels moving forward and team positional depth this is how I rank the importance of locking up the following players.

1. Laine
2. Morrisey
3. Trouba
4. Roslovic
5. Connor and ehlers would be here to if he had not yet signed, LW is are deepest position at nhl, ahl and prospect levels
6. Wheeler

Like 2.0 says, I’m sure the haters are going to hate this, have at it.

- Ross77



I see Wheeler as a guy who is as important to the Jets as Messier to the Rangers or Yzerman to the Wings. A skilled veteran with superior leadership, heart and clutch ability. He is #2 and maybe #1 on my list with the players above.

Maybe it' s because my wife has a crush on him but I am seeing Ehlers as the odd man out (I am thinking Trouba will get traded next summer regardless). Ehlers has skill that gives him the ability to play by himself - sometimes he looks like he doesn't need linemates and for my eye it doesn't fit for the Jets but would bring a good return in a trade.
sparky1957
Location: winnipeg, MB
Joined: 11.03.2016

Aug 15 @ 4:07 PM ET
Don't know about you guys, but Wheeler is our best player. Tops in the league in points. Those guys at the top make bid money. Hell Kane got 7.5 for 7 years. Geez
we would be lucky to keep Wheels at 7.5 mill for 5 years. Me thinks the term is good at 5 years but the cash will be way more. Is Wheeler worth more than Evander Kane? yep!!!!
2.0
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 09.11.2017

Aug 15 @ 4:12 PM ET
Don't know about you guys, but Wheeler is our best player. Tops in the league in points. Those guys at the top make bid money. Hell Kane got 7.5 for 7 years. Geez
we would be lucky to keep Wheels at 7.5 mill for 5 years. Me thinks the term is good at 5 years but the cash will be way more. Is Wheeler worth more than Evander Kane? yep!!!!

- sparky1957


I don't know what they were thinking in SJ. Maybe they wanted to help Kane with his workout program by providing more cash?
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 15 @ 4:18 PM ET
If you just read Ek's latest BS you would believe otherwise. Anyways, EK's column is atrocious reporting. He will sign with Dallas shortly with extremely high certainty. Tavares was no guess. Neither is this. I'm not one to spread false rumors and be like Ek.

.... And yes, you could claim its a lucky guess but then again he wasn't even on the radar when I mentioned it last week so it would be hard to suddenly predict it and also get lucky on the timing. I also now have heard that he went into media blackout on Sunday.

BTW...Myers was never played as a third pairing. That was Enstrom. I believe that debate was settled quite some time ago.

- jetsnation

I never meant to suggest you were guessing, sorry if it came across like that. What I meant was, I was or am guessing at the same outcomes so I’m assuming others are as well.
As for myers, your entire argument is about minutes played but there is absolutely evidence out there that at 5v5 he plays all those minutes against the other teams bottom 6, so yes at even strength he is a third pair D. He is not top 4 cause he doesn’t play against top 2 lines on other teams and when he does the puck ends up in our net.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 15 @ 4:44 PM ET
Don't know about you guys, but Wheeler is our best player. Tops in the league in points. Those guys at the top make bid money. Hell Kane got 7.5 for 7 years. Geez
we would be lucky to keep Wheels at 7.5 mill for 5 years. Me thinks the term is good at 5 years but the cash will be way more. Is Wheeler worth more than Evander Kane? yep!!!!

- sparky1957


Scheifele is our best player. That’s it. He’s got Wheeler’s production, but better defence and underlying numbers.

Wheeler is worth more than Kane now, yes, but he won’t be in 2 years. Kane is a top line player, while Wheeler is walking the line of elite.

You don’t give 5 years to a 33 year old, ever, no matter who it is. 30 is usually a steady decline. We won’t be so lucky going forward.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 15 @ 4:47 PM ET
If you just read Ek's latest BS you would believe otherwise. Anyways, EK's column is atrocious reporting. He will sign with Dallas shortly with extremely high certainty. Tavares was no guess. Neither is this. I'm not one to spread false rumors and be like Ek.

.... And yes, you could claim its a lucky guess but then again he wasn't even on the radar when I mentioned it last week so it would be hard to suddenly predict it and also get lucky on the timing. I also now have heard that he went into media blackout on Sunday.

BTW...Myers was never played as a third pairing. That was Enstrom. I believe that debate was settled quite some time ago.

- jetsnation


Myers’ minutes were pillowy soft for almost the entire season. The 5-57 pairing was always the 3rd pairing, and Myers got shredded any time he moved up. 44-8 and 39-33 saw absolutely brutal competition, however.
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Aug 15 @ 6:18 PM ET
I never meant to suggest you were guessing, sorry if it came across like that. What I meant was, I was or am guessing at the same outcomes so I’m assuming others are as well.
As for myers, your entire argument is about minutes played but there is absolutely evidence out there that at 5v5 he plays all those minutes against the other teams bottom 6, so yes at even strength he is a third pair D. He is not top 4 cause he doesn’t play against top 2 lines on other teams and when he does the puck ends up in our net.

- Ross77


Ross. I mentioned before I no longer live in the Peg but rather out east. It's not hard to run into lots of NHL current and past players in my circles, whether it's in the Muskokas, through families, friends, golfing, events, etc. I've had many beers with Lindros over the years, even drag raced him once on our way home late at night under the Gardiner expressway in my M5 (at the time). His souped-up Mercedes AMG (E55 ,I think) beat me cleanly. Bumped into Hawerchuk just the other day, etc. Bottom line is its hockey central out here especially in the summer, so its a common occurrence.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 15 @ 6:46 PM ET
Ross. I mentioned before I no longer live in the Peg but rather out east. It's not hard to run into lots of NHL current and past players in my circles, whether it's in the Muskokas, through families, friends, golfing, events, etc. I've had many beers with Lindros over the years, even drag raced him once on our way home late at night under the Gardiner expressway in my M5 (at the time). His souped-up Mercedes AMG (E55 ,I think) beat me cleanly. Bumped into Hawerchuk just the other day, etc. Bottom line is its hockey central out here especially in the summer, so its a common occurrence.
- jetsnation


I’m mad at you for losing that race
jetsnation
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2015

Aug 15 @ 7:49 PM ET
I’m mad at you for losing that race
- Rexypoo


I forgot to disengage the traction control on the M5. Might have won otherwise.

He's not that bad a guy. We were having drinks at Opus in Yorkville one night and a female cop came by and started writing a ticket on his illegally parked car. He bet us a beer that he could get rid of that ticket. We took the bet, but more for motivation for his quest. He not only talked her out of the ticket ( her son was a fan = autograph) but as she drove away she held up the ticket and ripped it up as she cruised by our window. Funny stuff. Nice to be a celeb sometimes.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 15 @ 8:37 PM ET
I forgot to disengage the traction control on the M5. Might have won otherwise.

He's not that bad a guy. We were having drinks at Opus in Yorkville one night and a female cop came by and started writing a ticket on his illegally parked car. He bet us a beer that he could get rid of that ticket. We took the bet, but more for motivation for his quest. He not only talked her out of the ticket ( her son was a fan = autograph) but as she drove away she held up the ticket and ripped it up as she cruised by our window. Funny stuff. Nice to be a celeb sometimes.

- jetsnation

I was at Earls a couple years ago when the cops had to be called to remove him, he was throwing glasses at walls and at people, he was beyond poop faced at that point. Clearly not his finest moment
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 15 @ 10:02 PM ET
I was at Earls a couple years ago when the cops had to be called to remove him, he was throwing glasses at walls and at people, he was beyond poop faced at that point. Clearly not his finest moment
- Ross77


My only celebrity interactions are a picture of me and Jason Momoa wearing cool sunglasses, and the time I met Hollywood Undead and Danny called me a cutie
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
Myers’ minutes were pillowy soft for almost the entire season. The 5-57 pairing was always the 3rd pairing, and Myers got shredded any time he moved up. 44-8 and 39-33 saw absolutely brutal competition, however.
- Rexypoo


39 was so good that NO TEAM in the NHL has signed him. Myers played better with Byfuglien than did Enstrom. Also wasn't 39 benched in game 5?

bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 09.05.2017

Aug 16 @ 4:33 PM ET
I honestly think Morrissey would have better numbers on another team. The PP time and increased overall time would put him near 40 points. He’s our #3, but he’s a more of a low end, too pairing guy, and he’s not at his best yet.

Also, no to Nurse. He’s not close to Trouba’s level, and he can’t carry Myers.

- Rexypoo


I like the optimism but think Morrissey is a terrific defensive defenseman, and 40 points would be a serious challenge for him. I still love him as a top pairing with Buff. And you are right, Nurse is not as good as Trouba. However Trouba can fetch a huge return, and Nurse could make up some of the missing TOI, while potentially only costing a 2nd round pick.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 16 @ 6:30 PM ET
39 was so good that NO TEAM in the NHL has signed him. Myers played better with Byfuglien than did Enstrom. Also wasn't 39 benched in game 5?
- TheUltimateJet


A: it’s been said numerous times that he hasn’t made a decision on whether or not to come back, even though he is still listed as the top remaining FA.
B: Myers did not play well with Byfuglien at all. He was hilariously bad, if were being honest. He seemed completely lost on his off side.
C: you can always count on Maurice to do something weird when he’s under pressure. It was the wrong move, and it failed.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 16 @ 6:40 PM ET
I like the optimism but think Morrissey is a terrific defensive defenseman, and 40 points would be a serious challenge for him. I still love him as a top pairing with Buff. And you are right, Nurse is not as good as Trouba. However Trouba can fetch a huge return, and Nurse could make up some of the missing TOI, while potentially only costing a 2nd round pick.
- bikeguy99


I don’t think it’s a reach at all. He had 26 points this season, and he averaged 20:27 a game, with very little PP time. He’s also carrying a massive advantage in the hockey IQ department over everyone but Trouba and Buff. Even then I’d say he’s the most stable of the 3, even if he doesn’t have the same insane-move-out-of-nowhere ability they do.
Ross77
Joined: 11.21.2014

Aug 17 @ 10:30 AM ET
If you guys are not reading Murat of the athletic, start!! Great jets articles
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Aug 17 @ 10:37 AM ET
A: it’s been said numerous times that he hasn’t made a decision on whether or not to come back, even though he is still listed as the top remaining FA.
B: Myers did not play well with Byfuglien at all. He was hilariously bad, if were being honest. He seemed completely lost on his off side.
C: you can always count on Maurice to do something weird when he’s under pressure. It was the wrong move, and it failed.

- Rexypoo


Apparently he has some or a North American option at the moment but Toby is working out with his old team MODO in Sweden where his brother Tommy plays and wears the "A". There is apparently a desire for the team to sign him and he is expected to make a decision on that offer soon. MODO is second tier hockey league in Sweden.

Postma is no longer available as another desired UFA as he signed with a KHL club.
CharlieDog
Location: MB
Joined: 01.17.2017

Aug 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
I forgot to disengage the traction control on the M5. Might have won otherwise.

He's not that bad a guy. We were having drinks at Opus in Yorkville one night and a female cop came by and started writing a ticket on his illegally parked car. He bet us a beer that he could get rid of that ticket. We took the bet, but more for motivation for his quest. He not only talked her out of the ticket ( her son was a fan = autograph) but as she drove away she held up the ticket and ripped it up as she cruised by our window. Funny stuff. Nice to be a celeb sometimes.

- jetsnation


Late to the party on this one but he is a product and example of crazy parents. He is much more level headed today and ppl like myself have more respect for the guy today as he has grown up and got away from his parents. This was of course on a professional elite level but crazy parents are a factor on many different sporting levels.

I saw first hand last year in womens super leaque softball provincials where a pictcher was taking calls from her mother in the stands if you can believe it. By the time the coaches figured out what was happening, too late, game over.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:39 AM ET
Apparently he has some or a North American option at the moment but Toby is working out with his old team MODO in Sweden where his brother Tommy plays and wears the "A". There is apparently a desire for the team to sign him and he is expected to make a decision on that offer soon. MODO is second tier hockey league in Sweden.

Postma is no longer available as another desired UFA as he signed with a KHL club.

- CharlieDog


Postma signing is my favourite because:
A: He gets big minutes now, along with “that paper”
And B: it reminded me that Burmistrov won a championship in a top level league (wearing #69, I might add), before any Jet won anything.
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 17 @ 11:57 AM ET
A: it’s been said numerous times that he hasn’t made a decision on whether or not to come back, even though he is still listed as the top remaining FA.
B: Myers did not play well with Byfuglien at all. He was hilariously bad, if were being honest. He seemed completely lost on his off side.
C: you can always count on Maurice to do something weird when he’s under pressure. It was the wrong move, and it failed.

- Rexypoo


So based on two playoff games, you are ruling that Myers is bad on his offside?

Also on the topic of 39, if he had a NHL offer, he would have signed it. I can't see him having his pick of teams to choose from.
Rexypoo
Location: Yes
Joined: 02.08.2016

Aug 17 @ 11:59 AM ET
So based on two playoff games, you are ruling that Myers is bad on his offside?

Also on the topic of 39, if he had a NHL offer, he would have signed it. I can't see him having his pick of teams to choose from.

- TheUltimateJet


Any time Myers has had to play his offside, or on the top pairing, has resulted in defensive hilarity. He struggles against top competition, he struggles under pressure, and he struggles with the puck on his stick

And you’re wrong on the second point. It’s widely reported he’s holding off on a decision, in the same way Nash is. Go home to family? Or find a new team?
TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Aug 17 @ 12:02 PM ET
Myers’ minutes were pillowy soft for almost the entire season. The 5-57 pairing was always the 3rd pairing, and Myers got shredded any time he moved up. 44-8 and 39-33 saw absolutely brutal competition, however.
- Rexypoo


Myers did not get shredded everytime he moved up. I was listening to the radio a while back. they said outside of the first 2-3 games when he moved up, he was amazing. It takes him a while to figure out his defensive partners. If I recall correctly, they said that Myers was close to 58% Corsi with Morrissey. That does not sound like someone who's being shredded.
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