Leafs D > Pitts D

Andersen > Murray
- Feeling_Glucky

Leafs D is better than the Pens D, by a little.

Andersen better than Murray? I'll reserve that until Andersen makes it passed the first round. Regular season stats are great and all, but what you do in the playoffs is what ultimately counts.

EDIT: My mistake. I forgot he did ONE year with ANA like four years ago.
- Rinosaur

I'm not saying that the Pens D is good but to say that the Leaf's are better is just nonsense. They only big change from the 2 cup run is losing Daily and Cole. A #4 and #6 Dmen aren't impossible to replace.

The Leafs fans here make it very easy to hate their team if you havne't already started hating them already.

I'm not saying that the Pens D is good but to say that the Leaf's are better is just nonsense. They only big change from the 2 cup run is losing Daily and Cole. A #4 and #6 Dmen aren't impossible to replace.
- Mino42

Player for player, I'll take the Leafs D (barely). D System and forward support re: defense? Pitts all the way.

Penguins, and it's not even close.

Until the Lightning bring home the Cup, they are just great on paper.

I think Tampa's future looks brighter, based on current rosters, but that means jack without the hardware.

Penguins, and it's not even close.

Until the Lightning bring home the Cup, they are just great on paper.

I think Tampa's future looks brighter, based on current rosters, but that means jack without the hardware.
- GalacticStone

Truth.

I'm not saying that the Pens D is good but to say that the Leaf's are better is just nonsense. They only big change from the 2 cup run is losing Daily and Cole. A #4 and #6 Dmen aren't impossible to replace.
- Mino42

Last year the Leafs’ defense was definitely better than the Pens, but again, not by a lot.

I think this year, unless TOR adds, a 100% healthy and ready Letang now makes their defense better than the leafs.

LEAFSSSSSSSSSSSSS

This has to be a joke right? The Lightning have been a very competitive team for several years with limited access to Stamkos due to injuries. The Penguins are going to collapse quick and hard just as the Blackhawks did. Kris letang will have a subpar season, and Penguins fans had better pray that Murray avoids his 3rd concussion at the ripe age of 22-23 lol good luck and also hope that crosby doesnt land his 4th concussion because after 4 you forget how to tie your shoes. Keep living in fantasy land pens fan awful blog can't believe this is even a discussion

This has to be a joke right? The Lightning have been a very competitive team for several years with limited access to Stamkos due to injuries. The Penguins are going to collapse quick and hard just as the Blackhawks did. Kris letang will have a subpar season, and Penguins fans had better pray that Murray avoids his 3rd concussion at the ripe age of 22-23 lol good luck and also hope that crosby doesnt land his 4th concussion because after 4 you forget how to tie your shoes. Keep living in fantasy land pens fan awful blog can't believe this is even a discussion

Not with Chokos and Vanishov leading the way

Not to mention Sievealeski in net

The Leafs fans here make it very easy to hate their team if you havne't already started hating them already.
- SimpleJack

Ah little one its ok.
Take a joke bud.

Penguins, and it's not even close.

Until the Lightning bring home the Cup, they are just great on paper.

I think Tampa's future looks brighter, based on current rosters, but that means jack without the hardware.
- GalacticStone

You dont need a cup to say a team is better than the current pens team

This has to be a joke right? The Lightning have been a very competitive team for several years with limited access to Stamkos due to injuries. The Penguins are going to collapse quick and hard just as the Blackhawks did. Kris letang will have a subpar season, and Penguins fans had better pray that Murray avoids his 3rd concussion at the ripe age of 22-23 lol good luck and also hope that crosby doesnt land his 4th concussion because after 4 you forget how to tie your shoes. Keep living in fantasy land pens fan awful blog can't believe this is even a discussion
- cchar

I would be upset too if the team I like hasn't won anything since bellbottoms were groovy while one of their biggest rivals have won 5 Cups including going back to back a year ago. Someone give this man-child a hug!!!

I would be upset too if the team I like hasn't won anything since bellbottoms were groovy while one of their biggest rivals have won 5 Cups including going back to back a year ago. Someone give this man-child a hug!!!"

Lmao you've gotta be one of those surface level Penguins fans who started watching hockey bc it was the cool thing to do in Pitt when they became relevant. If you were a real fan, you'd be horrified at the current state of your farm system; see http://www.sportingnews.c...tn8fb6mqnial16bxvtds5dacu

Let me help, scroll ALL the way to the bottom. Your superstars are approaching the age: "old as dirt" and your young superstar goalie may not remember how to spell his name after this year. I need a big hug, not bc my team, the Flyers are loaded with up and coming talent, our captain shut the entire hockey world up by having a career year last year, oh and they landed the top free agent (other than JT).

That being said, I'll definitely need 2-3 hugs from having to read your uninformed ignorant ass comment(s). Penguins fan nothing new there

Flyers on Pens hate is enjoyable

You dont need a cup to say a team is better than the current pens team
- Fakepartofme

We're in a bit of a bitter phase here in Bolts fandom.

We're in a bit of a bitter phase here in Bolts fandom.
- OzBolts

At least not as bitter as Philly, but Philly's bitterness went from being a phase to a permanent state of mind about 1991.

This has to be a joke right? The Lightning have been a very competitive team for several years with limited access to Stamkos due to injuries. The Penguins are going to collapse quick and hard just as the Blackhawks did. Kris letang will have a subpar season, and Penguins fans had better pray that Murray avoids his 3rd concussion at the ripe age of 22-23 lol good luck and also hope that crosby doesnt land his 4th concussion because after 4 you forget how to tie your shoes. Keep living in fantasy land pens fan awful blog can't believe this is even a discussion
- cchar

Someday, Crosby and Malkin will see their skills deteriorate and the Pens will be faced with a long, hard rebuild. It worked out pretty well last time for us, and in the meantime, we'll have (at least) 3 Cup victories from the Crosby era to cherish along with the 2 from the Mario Era.

What will you have? If history is any indicator, you'll have faded Eric Lindros poster in your parent's basement, your geriatric Dad's stories of Bobby Clarke, and a stale, soggy sandwich from Pat's with that awful fake cheese.

Flyers on Pens hate is enjoyable
- Zezel

Almost as enjoyable as watching your team win the Cup in color.

Someday, Crosby and Malkin will see their skills deteriorate and the Pens will be faced with a long, hard rebuild. It worked out pretty well last time for us, and in the meantime, we'll have (at least) 3 Cup victories from the Crosby era to cherish along with the 2 from the Mario Era.

What will you have? If history is any indicator, you'll have faded Eric Lindros poster in your parent's basement, your geriatric Dad's stories of Bobby Clarke, and a stale, soggy sandwich from Pat's with that awful fake cheese.
- Emperor Filonius

Come on man that's not fair. Philly sandwiches are really good.

Almost as enjoyable as watching your team win the Cup in color.
- Mino42

I'm looking forward to it!

I'm looking forward to it!
- Zezel

It's amazing! Trust me I've seen it more than a few times.

Someday, Crosby and Malkin will see their skills deteriorate and the Pens will be faced with a long, hard rebuild. It worked out pretty well last time for us, and in the meantime, we'll have (at least) 3 Cup victories from the Crosby era to cherish along with the 2 from the Mario Era.

What will you have? If history is any indicator, you'll have faded Eric Lindros poster in your parent's basement, your geriatric Dad's stories of Bobby Clarke, and a stale, soggy sandwich from Pat's with that awful fake cheese.
- Emperor Filonius

Ya gotta go with provolone - preferably sharp - on any steak. If you go with Cheese Whiz, you deserve your fate.

Ya gotta go with provolone - preferably sharp - on any steak. If you go with Cheese Whiz or go to Pat's/Geno's, you deserve your fate.
- BOSS_TWEED

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