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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Aug 16 @ 4:52 PM ET
Say it...SAY IT!!!!
- BiggE


No.


Curse of the Schennino
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 16 @ 4:59 PM ET
LA won the cup only after getting rid of Wayne Simmonds
- YuenglingJagr


savage
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 5:07 PM ET
savage
- Mononoke

Spray meta is good
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 16 @ 5:16 PM ET
I think he’s confusing Therien at the end of his career with Therien in his prime. At the end, he had lost a step and was pretty bad. In his prime, he was solid. Was he a legit top pair guy? No, not really but he was what they had to work with. However he was a solid top 4 guy who excelled in the PK. To put him on a list of the worst Flyers of all time is simply asinine.
- BiggE



Jagr hated him
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 5:23 PM ET
I have acquired the rights to Scott Kingery and JP Crawford in my fantasy league. I get to carry them over for free next season so long as I roster them through the remainder of the year.

I don't think Crawford is worth it and will probably try to pawn him off on a phillie loving schmuck in my league, but Kingery interests me still. That said, I really dislike what they are doing with him and his development this year. It is odd
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Aug 16 @ 5:30 PM ET
I have acquired the rights to Scott Kingery and JP Crawford in my fantasy league. I get to carry them over for free next season so long as I roster them through the remainder of the year.

I don't think Crawford is worth it and will probably try to pawn him off on a phillie loving schmuck in my league, but Kingery interests me still. That said, I really dislike what they are doing with him and his development this year. It is odd

- YuenglingJagr


Kingery is like Kapler's Konecny, except Konecny is way more productive and his coach poops on him more.

Speaking of which, really underrated tweet:

https://twitter.com/KyleN...tml%231025008947441360898
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:43 PM ET
I hated Bundy as a player. The ONLY guy he played well against was Jagr...inexplicably. But for the most part, he was nothing more than a pylon. He couldn't skate, didn't have much of a shot, barely hit anyone....granted, didn't take many penalties. But the guy was a TURNSTILE!

...But Bundy the color analyst? Love the guy.

Fine...you want me to replace Bundy? I raise you Adam Hall.

- Hckygoalie31


First of all that representation of Therien as a player is completely inaccurate. Secondly is it a suck list or a list of player someone doesn't like?


hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Aug 16 @ 5:44 PM ET
I have acquired the rights to Scott Kingery and JP Crawford in my fantasy league. I get to carry them over for free next season so long as I roster them through the remainder of the year.

I don't think Crawford is worth it and will probably try to pawn him off on a phillie loving schmuck in my league, but Kingery interests me still. That said, I really dislike what they are doing with him and his development this year. It is odd

- YuenglingJagr

Kingery probably needs to go down and see a lot of pitches and work on his hitting. After they added Cabrera it's kind of hard to find a spot for Kingery to play every day imo.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 16 @ 5:44 PM ET
All right, I'll say it. 'Cause Truman was too much of a wussy wimp to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those commie bastards.
- jmatchett383

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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:46 PM ET
Provorov doesn't have enough time to make the lists yet. In a year or two he'll probably be in the top 5 of those lists if his career continues on it's trend.
- dragonoffrost


I'd be surprised at that.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 16 @ 5:54 PM ET
Kingery is like Kapler's Konecny, except Konecny is way more productive and his coach poops on him more.

Speaking of which, really underrated tweet:

https://twitter.com/KyleN...tml%231025008947441360898

- Mononoke


In my opinion Hakstol has handled Konecny perfectly and has made him into a better player. I would bet that Konecny does not not feel that his coach has poop on him at all.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 16 @ 6:31 PM ET
the only specific memory I have about Riley Cote is when he dropped that guy Roy easily and Roy was freaking the (frank) out afterwards. Like an absolute mad man.
- Ftown19125

Probably because Roy was the first guy to lose to Cote

Cote offered absolutely nothing.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 16 @ 6:45 PM ET
I hated Bundy as a player. The ONLY guy he played well against was Jagr...inexplicably. But for the most part, he was nothing more than a pylon. He couldn't skate, didn't have much of a shot, barely hit anyone....granted, didn't take many penalties. But the guy was a TURNSTILE!

...But Bundy the color analyst? Love the guy.

Fine...you want me to replace Bundy? I raise you Adam Hall.

- Hckygoalie31


Wow!

I can’t believe Chris Therien has a stereotype. I’ve heard this “He only plays well against Jagr” the past 20 years. To me this is an example of one person says something and after a bunch of people piggyback on it. Like the odd hatred towards Nickelback everyone oddly focuses in on.

You don’t play on the top pair with Eric Desjardins for years if you are a useless player. Especially on a team that consistently made the playoffs.

This reminds me of the argument about how Lappy should be fired because the PK is passive. All climb aboard the one point of view train. Clear some freakin pucks!!!

Also, outside of acquiring Adam Hall late in his career, what was so wrong with Adam Hall? I wish we had a young Adam Hall on this team right now!!
rinaldo
Joined: 05.10.2011

Aug 16 @ 7:40 PM ET
Just on D, off the top of my head: Rick Lapoint, Willie Huber, Bill Root, Kerry Huffman, Yves Racine, Karl Dykhuis, Ryan Parent, Luke Schenn, Pavel Kubina, Brandon Manning and Radko Gudas are all much worse players than Therien was in his prime.
- BiggE

Willie Huber and Racine played well as flyers.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 8:27 PM ET
I take full responsibility for Kingery’s home run
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Aug 16 @ 8:38 PM ET
Kingery is like Kapler's Konecny, except Konecny is way more productive and his coach poops on him more.

Speaking of which, really underrated tweet:

https://twitter.com/KyleN...tml%231025008947441360898

- Mononoke


He’s like Ron’s Weal right now.

I really have no idea though because I hardly pay attention to what’s going on with them other than fantasy relevancy. He could be named Drift [418] for all I care
iroc4me2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Spring Mount, PA
Joined: 06.17.2007

Aug 16 @ 9:57 PM ET
Really, a lot of the 06/07 team. They had a decent on-paper team, but they were terrible outside of the top line.

Mike York
Randy Robitaille
Kyle Clader
Dmitry Afanasenkov
Alexei $hitnik
Ryan Potulny
Todd Fedoruk
Derian Hatcher
Petr Nedved
Denis Gauthier
Frederick Meyer IV
Mike Rathje (sparingly, thank god)

You could do a decent Suckmore of York, Calder, $hitnik, and Rathje, and that even leaves off Nedved and Gauthier.

- jmatchett383


Afanasenkov scored a bunch of pretty goals if I remember correctly? He wasn’t that useless? Maybe I’m way off. I would like to submit Nikos Dimitrakos, Mike York, Michal Sykora, and Matt Walker. Runner up Mike Comry.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Aug 16 @ 10:15 PM ET
Afanasenkov scored a bunch of pretty goals if I remember correctly? He wasn’t that useless? Maybe I’m way off. I would like to submit Nikos Dimitrakos, Mike York, Michal Sykora, and Matt Walker. Runner up Mike Comry.
- iroc4me2


Niko Dimitrakos?

I mean, that dude was a 5th round pick by the Sharks and he just didn't work out.

He's not who I'd put on a Mt. Suckmore.

Mike Comrie, OTOH, is an interesting choice and should be considered. That dude had hype and he sucked.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Aug 17 @ 12:50 AM ET
Really, a lot of the 06/07 team. They had a decent on-paper team, but they were terrible outside of the top line.

Mike York
Randy Robitaille
Kyle Clader
Dmitry Afanasenkov
Alexei $hitnik
Ryan Potulny
Todd Fedoruk
Derian Hatcher
Petr Nedved
Denis Gauthier
Frederick Meyer IV
Mike Rathje (sparingly, thank god)

You could do a decent Suckmore of York, Calder, $hitnik, and Rathje, and that even leaves off Nedved and Gauthier.

- jmatchett383

I have the up most respect for Derian Hatcher. Yes he played on the 06/07 team but he also played on the 07/08 team. The Flyers went from last, to eastern conference final, which is Remarkable. Hatcher was a big part of the rebuild.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

Aug 17 @ 3:55 AM ET
Giroux is one of my favorites, never the greatest wheels but damn he’s been a good Flyer for a long long time!!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Aug 17 @ 6:35 AM ET
I have the up most respect for Derian Hatcher. Yes he played on the 06/07 team but he also played on the 07/08 team. The Flyers went from last, to eastern conference final, which is Remarkable. Hatcher was a big part of the rebuild.
- SuperSchennBros

Total warrior, he played through crippling knee pain in the 08 playoffs. His knees needed to be drained constantly that spring and eventually had to be replaced.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Aug 17 @ 7:22 AM ET
and that other guy....
- Glak18



that was schennless
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Aug 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
Most "best" lists are pointless, they are more who's hot now lists. Remember when Aaron Ekblad was proclaimed "one of the top defensemen" in the league only after his rookie year?

Lists are based off of zero standards or rules, just who is trending in the media and tagged with what-ifs. Philadelphia is not Canadian media friendly IMO, otherwise people would of figured out the Broad Street Bully hockey as been long gone for decades.

P.S. Ghost is more popular because his stats pop more and has more fancy to his game.

I remember playing a tournament up in Quebec in my teens, expensive as poop too, and there was this one player I can not remember his name...something Frenchy. Kid was good, very good stickwork. I will always remember this one play he made. He came out of the D-Zone and someone passed the puck up to him, he went and beat a couple players then made a sweet drag move around one of the dmen. All alone on the goalie and smacks the post. All I heard from this kid for the rest of the game and after is how he destroyed us and made us look foolish, yet he never scored. I ended up with a rebound goal, a terrible ugly goal, and I believe we won.

Well some people don't judge hockey players on what they do, it's all about how they look doing it...even if you miss the net.

- Glak18


Exactly. Speaking of missing the net, guess which defenseman leads the NHL over the past two seasons in percentage of total shot attempts that completely miss the net? Give you a hint. He's in the "Top 20".
hockeyal
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.22.2017

Aug 17 @ 1:31 PM ET
Because he isnt in the Hockey HOF?
- MBFlyerfan


A lot of American teams have had to acknowledge their players who will not make the HHOF because good players get regularly snubbed. Induction classes were bigger during the original six era, and when any hockey outside of the NHL basically didn't count. Not a good reason.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Aug 17 @ 1:32 PM ET
Exactly. Speaking of missing the net, guess which defenseman leads the NHL over the past two seasons in percentage of total shot attempts that completely miss the net? Give you a hint. He's in the "Top 20".
- hockeyal



So all the other lists and opinions that you frequently link to are accurate but this one is not?

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